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EVs produce significantly less pollution overall than gas cars, the one exception being driving a Honda Insight in West Virginia is slightly better for overall emissions than a pure BEV. They reduce overall pollution levels as well as local levels.
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 05:13 |
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Even if you power an EV mostly off coal plants it still breaks even on carbon emissions before 100k miles because of the thermal efficiency of stationary coal plants being significantly higher than small mobile ICEs and the benefits of regenerative braking. So it's both exporting the pollution and reducing it at the same time.
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 05:46 |
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In addition, while some find it fun to say cities to export their pollution to where coal plants are, lots of those cities also bear the brunt of the import export industry, supplying goods to and from those coal plant towns too, e.g. the rates of respiratory illness in low socio economic areas surrounding ports like LA. We're all in it together.
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 07:05 |
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Don't get me wrong, I love EV's. They're perfect for the commuter/appliance driver who's just trying to get to work. The reduction in emissions in LA in my lifetime is science-fiction level poo poo and I'm very happy that these cars - while not perfect - should help guarantee that petrol will be available for naturally aspirated cars with a soundtrack for the rest of my existence. Also glad that LA DWP isn't on the Edison grid, so we don't get brownouts here. Odd how private industry sucks rear end whenever possible, while government waste ensures the services citizens need still work.
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 07:15 |
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EVs do help a bit to reduce environmental impact, especially with improved battery tech to reduce the dependency on lithium/cobalt/etc., but they do nothing at all to reduce congestion, which I think is a downside to cars that a lot of people neglect or willfully ignore. (Not to mention the massive surveillance and infringement on data privacy, but that goes for all modern cars, not just EVs)
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 07:28 |
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Much like me turning off the water while I brush my teeth as Nestle uses 1m gallons of water on their almonds every day, on the plus side, if 3 billion people start driving EV's only, it will undo the damage one cruise ship does.
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Ether Frenzy posted:Much like me turning off the water while I brush my teeth as Nestle uses 1m gallons of water on their almonds every day, on the plus side, if 3 billion people start driving EV's only, it will undo the damage one cruise ship does. And that's why, overall, we're hosed.
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 12:22 |
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Why won't you people just accept your personal responsibility for climate change? You can't control or even blame business like that; America is about innovation, not about red tape
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 14:02 |
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The Door Frame posted:Why won't you people just accept your personal responsibility for climate change? You can't control or even blame business like that; America is about innovation, not about red tape It's not even that so much for me... Americans have torched way more than our share of the planet, but some of us believe science and recognize things need to change for viable human live to continue as-is. But, even if we do, there are second and third world countries that are going ham on any fossil fuel they can (because they are following our lead and chasing our "success"), with no regard for emissions or the environment, and I just don't see any way that we, as a world, will accept change enough to matter. So... embrace nihilism. meatpimp fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Sep 26, 2023 |
# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:47 |
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Way ahead of you there buddy
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 15:50 |
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meatpimp posted:It's not even that so much for me... Americans have torched way more than our share of the planet, but some of us believe science and recognize things need to change for viable human live to continue as-is. I mean, the joke was that Americans have been so brain poisoned that we talk about climate change as if it were a personal responsibility thing when almost all blame falls on rich people, business, and government To be clear, I do not want to sound like I am messing with you or trying to diminish your feelings, climate grief is 100% valid. We have no way to fix the hell we have wrought and no one with the capability to do anything at all has any interest in doing so, making it more painful to watch the collapse inch closer. When the water wars begin and famine sweeps the planet as fisheries run dry, at least us individuals can look back and say, "I did what I could with the extremely limited resources I had available to try to give us more time." What else can one regular person do? Honestly though, on further reflection with this thread, I think just want a plug in hybrid going forward. I get my green-ish electric car that can go for god knows how long without visiting a gas station, and also a little gasoline engine to get over range anxiety and for emergency situations
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 16:46 |
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KozmoNaut posted:(Not to mention the massive surveillance and infringement on data privacy, but that goes for all modern cars, not just EVs) That goes for public transport too these days.
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# ? Sep 26, 2023 18:35 |
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The Door Frame posted:Honestly though, on further reflection with this thread, I think just want a plug in hybrid going forward. I get my green-ish electric car that can go for god knows how long without visiting a gas station, and also a little gasoline engine to get over range anxiety and for emergency situations Conversations like this really make me want a PHEV or EV. But I want my daily to be fun at the very least and I would have a hard time getting over the lack of vroom vroom noises. Dumb and irrational I know. I was set on an i8 for a while but the reliability scared me off.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 04:23 |
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Conversations like this really make me want a PHEV or EV. But I want my daily to be fun at the very least and I would have a hard time getting over the lack of vroom vroom noises. Dumb and irrational I know. I really considered the i8 after a year with the i3 but couldn't justify spending that much after driving a couple.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 13:14 |
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E85 conversion for me, can't discount not having to build a new car even if E85 isn't non-problematic as well.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 13:37 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:E85 conversion for me, can't discount not having to build a new car even if E85 isn't non-problematic as well. Propane or methane if corn squeezin's become a problem.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 16:15 |
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Needs more Biodiesel.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 16:20 |
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Darchangel posted:Propane or methane if corn squeezin's become a problem. They can make it from wood products like sawdust and scrap now too. The local government (more like publically owned corporation that handles the regions waste) make biomethane from the collected household waste of this region and there are multiple fuel stations nearby. So you can run your car on locally sourced and produced gas and it's about half the cost of gas. But a conversion is pricier than my car. The nearby citys buses have ran on it for years.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 16:44 |
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CommieGIR posted:Needs more Biodiesel. Needs more woodgas
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 19:01 |
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Cowards
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 02:31 |
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i run my car on all the methane produced from my poo poo(posts)
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 02:46 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:The local government (more like publically owned corporation that handles the regions waste) make biomethane from the collected household waste of this region and there are multiple fuel stations nearby. So you can run your car on locally sourced and produced gas and it's about half the cost of gas. But a conversion is pricier than my car. The nearby citys buses have ran on it for years. How are those busses going? Ours run on CNG (not LPG) so the range is awful and they keep bursting into flames.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 04:05 |
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All I've heard is there where sometimes issues with getting enough fuel which meant supplementing with CNG, so that's why they've expanded the system for collecting biowaste from households. Unfortunately they decided this means everyone would have another bin to empty and that means more expensive pickups. So like 50% of households opted out by buying an insulated aero composter and doing their own composting instead.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 05:04 |
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Sandy Munro is anti-union 💩 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CMFRtFksjo
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 21:01 |
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:Sandy Munro is anti-union 💩 yeah no poo poo Sandy thinks income inequality exists because “in the 80s and 90s we told kids they could be whatever they wanted and they all became English majors instead of engineers and scientists and machinists” (lol tell that one to the guy who had his machine shop job outsourced or the 40 year old postdoc-for-life making $40k and failing to put a dent in his loans) Sandy lost the little credibility he still had when he saw an opportunity to climb up Elon’s rear end in a top hat and never looked back
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 22:26 |
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You didn't even have to say anything--one look at that old piece of poo poo's face in that thumbnail and I instantly knew he'd be anti-union.
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# ? Oct 18, 2023 01:55 |
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Wasn’t he anti-Tesla to start?
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# ? Oct 18, 2023 07:07 |
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Wasn’t he anti-Tesla to start? He did a few attack videos a lot of time ago (with the usual cesspool of Musk stans in the comments) and after a bit he started doing "Tesla is the best" at every opportunity. I don't know if money switched hands or anything but it was rather weird at the time. Also once you get a video from their network of channels it's as sticky as LTT, it took me quite a bit to not make them appear in my feed.
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# ? Oct 18, 2023 09:28 |
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Munro did a Model 3 teardown where he criticized their production methods and build quality. He was also bearish on EVs and how long it would take them to match ICE vehicles. About a year later he hosted a discussion with Musk where they talked about production methods and the engineering behind Teslas. Since then Munro has been really pro Tesla and EVs in general.
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# ? Oct 19, 2023 01:23 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Munro did a Model 3 teardown where he criticized their production methods and build quality. He was also bearish on EVs and how long it would take them to match ICE vehicles. About a year later he hosted a discussion with Musk where they talked about production methods and the engineering behind Teslas. Since then Munro has been really pro Tesla and EVs in general. All I remember is he did a video a few years ago about how the Cybertruck was genius, and Musk clearly knew something that nobody else did because it seemed like terrible engineering and terrible decisions across the board, but it obviously couldn't be that.
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# ? Oct 19, 2023 02:26 |
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Stinky post. https://twitter.com/LeviBetz/status/1766920921972105640?t=PT3uJmPl5gtmoo7eSw4_Dg&s=19
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Stinky post. i'm pretty sure we all saw this coming back when the brcc sponsorship happened i hope this dipshit crashes into a tree now Large Testicles fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Mar 11, 2024 |
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Large Testicles posted:i'm pretty sure we all saw this coming back when the brcc sponsorship happened Yeah, totally unsurprising btu still lovely. Looking forward to his attendance at Jan 6th v2 to complete the chud arc.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Stinky post. Wasn’t this the dipshit that had a Black Rifle Coffee sticker on his car? Edit: well, duh, he’s wearing a BRCC shirt in the picture. Edit 2: and Large Testicle mentioned the sponsorship. It’s a Monday… Darchangel fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Mar 11, 2024 |
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Darchangel posted:Wasn’t this the dipshit that had a Black Rifle Coffee sticker on his car? I called 2 different people Steven today and neither of them are called that so I get it, don't worry.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 20:54 |
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I called 2 different people Steven today and neither of them are called that so I get it, don't worry. lol. I would have to go hide in a closet after that.
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# ? Mar 11, 2024 20:57 |
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Catching back up with this thread and Bucky Lasek is another person rocking BRCC crap on their cars and person.
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 21:20 |
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Not necessarily automotive focused, but definitely adjacent, how does Abom79 shake out?
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# ? Mar 31, 2024 23:31 |
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I mean he's a machinist from Florida(?) so I have my suspicions but he's also been very very nonpolitical as far as I can tell, and I've been watching for years, so maybe I'm wrong.
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 01:16 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 00:52 |
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At the very least Abom seems to have a strong aversion to talking politics on his channel whatsoever. I need to catch back up on his stuff.
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