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beep by grandpa posted:
nope same with every gently caress the cowboys. I grow only stronger
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Is there something I am supposed to do with information presented itt about what other fans think about philly fans other than: lol, lmao
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Diqnol posted:Not everyone hates us, simply most people. New thread subtitle?
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euphronius posted:If you want a comp for Dak: Kirk cousins Kirk Cousins has a better career passer rating than Joe Burrow Justin Herbert Josh Allen Matthew Stafford
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blarzgh posted:Kirk Cousins has a better career passer rating than because he's a good-to-very good QB who has failed to make the leap to greatness thanks to a subpar record when poo poo Gets Real. a 1-4 record in the playoffs'll do that to you. luckily dak has elevated himself above that sort of mess with *checks notes* a 2-4 record in the playoffs
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Sep 27, 2023 22:33
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No one cares about passer ratings
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They do when it supports their arguments
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beep by grandpa posted:It's really funny how we keep winning convincingly but all the wins feel like losses cause it really does not feel that they are playing to what they're capable of.
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Just the existence of a QB who can be a threat without throwing the ball all the time disproves all QB stats but what can you do
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Doltos posted:Just the existence of a QB who can be a threat without throwing the ball all the time disproves all QB stats but what can you do ; Therefore, we must ban the forward pass in order to usher in the Danny Dimes Era.
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Febreeze posted:They do when it supports their arguments There has to be a a better OPS-equivalent for QBs.
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Vengarr posted:There has to be a a better OPS-equivalent for QBs. EPA per play and CPOE
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EPA is based on historic data of equivalent field position, down, and distance. It's so wildly unreliable.
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QBs should be judged on a three axis compendium: Moxey, wins, intangibles
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Can he ball*
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Qb stat: Does he have that dog in him?
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Top 5 QBs ranked by Grit
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Trying to think of the best receiver Dak has played with. I think it's Amari Cooper? Point being that he's made Dallas' passing game greater than the sum of it's parts his whole career. Having Zeke in his prime helped but it only helps so much.
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Daks best receiver has been the other teams secondary (He throws interceptions)
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Lamb is better than Cooper and Dak has had plenty of talent to throw to and is good doing it
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biceps crimes posted:Top 5 QBs ranked by Grit Sorry, I only rank my top five quarterbacks by intangibles.
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Doltos posted:Lamb is better than Cooper and Dak has had plenty of talent to throw to and is good doing it Lamb is better but God he still has some growing up to do
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Doltos posted:Lamb is better than Cooper and Dak has had plenty of talent to throw to and is good doing it yup. lacking targets who are clear wins in most man to mans. our defense is vulnerable to deception concepts and to being punished for being relatively small. i think the cardinals did their homework and picked the defense apart really well for being a tanking team. dan quinn's a fraud and im burning all of my cowboys gear
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biceps crimes posted:nope 
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Thanks, grandpa
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You're all wrong if you disagree with me and I'm always right Go Cowboys
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You stink and your worship of meaningless numbers is a texas sized loogie in the eye of god. If Dak were the quarterback you say he is, then your team would be a more consistent playoff presence. Exhibit A: Patrick Mahomes. Exhibit B: Peyton Manning. Both players won superbowls with a limited supporting cast which you cannot claim Dak has had for the majority of his career. Face it, Jerry and his henchmen put together a team that a Mahomes/Manning would have won with and Dak simply fell short.
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Cousins still has Jefferson and can’t do anything.
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Diqnol posted:Exhibit B: Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning was 3-6 in the post season going into his age 30 season. Where he went 4-0 in the post season and won it all. Dak is 30.
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If Dak turns into a better QB then he will be better Yes good point
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Diqnol posted:You stink and your worship of meaningless numbers is a texas sized loogie in the eye of god. If Dak were the quarterback you say he is, then your team would be a more consistent playoff presence. Exhibit A: Patrick Mahomes. Exhibit B: Peyton Manning. Both players won superbowls with a limited supporting cast which you cannot claim Dak has had for the majority of his career. Face it, Jerry and his henchmen put together a team that a Mahomes/Manning would have won with and Dak simply fell short. Exhibit C: Big Dick Nick  Dak is good and I like him, despite playing for the most hated of franchises. Fair to say if he played in SF or maybe KC he'd have a ring but he's not carrying a team anywhere and I don't think he's a huge difference maker. Nothing he does puts fear into an opponent the way Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Hurts, Jackson or even Herbert do, for instance. No one game plans to take away what Dak Prescott is bringing is what I'm saying. He's never been a serious MVP candidate and never will be. Blarzgh can post all the charts he wants (cherry picked as they are) but this isn't baseball and, even though football stats have evolved a lot, they still can't really capture the sport in that way since we have 22 moving parts on every snap and just one gently caress up by one guy can blow up a play or lead to points.
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He’d have a ring as Mahomes backup yes
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euphronius posted:If Dak turns into a better QB then he will be better Sorry, I'll dumb it down for you. The narrative around Peyton Manning prior to 2007 was that he couldn't play in the post season. No one regards him that way anymore, but plenty of people were ready to close the book on him before he was 30. I'm not saying Dak is Peyton Manning. I'm saying that players can improve their post season success well into their careers. Even after we've all decided what we know they can't.
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That’s exactly what I said If Dak gets better at being a qb, then I think most of us will says he’s better Lots of guys don’t get better tho
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Diqnol posted:You stink and your worship of meaningless numbers is a texas sized loogie in the eye of god. If Dak were the quarterback you say he is, then your team would be a more consistent playoff presence. Exhibit A: Patrick Mahomes. Exhibit B: Peyton Manning. Both players won superbowls with a limited supporting cast which you cannot claim Dak has had for the majority of his career. Face it, Jerry and his henchmen put together a team that a Mahomes/Manning would have won with and Dak simply fell short. "Dak Prescott Isn't one of the 5 best QBs of All Time" isnt the insult you think it is
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Cartoon Man posted:Sorry, I only rank my top five quarterbacks by intangibles. Ignore the Clutch Coefficient at your peril
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Diqnol posted:You stink and your worship of meaningless numbers is a texas sized loogie in the eye of god. If Dak were the quarterback you say he is, then your team would be a more consistent playoff presence. Exhibit A: Patrick Mahomes. Exhibit B: Peyton Manning. Both players won superbowls with a limited supporting cast which you cannot claim Dak has had for the majority of his career. Face it, Jerry and his henchmen put together a team that a Mahomes/Manning would have won with and Dak simply fell short. If the Cowboys had one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the sport, yes, they'd have a super bowl in this century. Nobody is saying Dak is a first ballot hall of famer but if you put some talent around him and some things break your way maybe you win a super bowl with him.
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Tom already retired so Dak definitely missed his window to earn a ring as Tom's backup.
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Cash Monet posted:If the Cowboys had one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the sport, yes, they'd have a super bowl in this century. When Tony Romo came back from injury in the season Dak took over, they had locked up the number one seed and the final game was meaningless. Tony started the game and led the first team offense down to an easy TD. Dak came in and also scored a TD, but it was not as effortless as with Tony. I think Romo looked much better in that one drive that game than Dak did most of the season. Regardless, they went with Dak in the playoffs and lost. I think if they had went with Tony, they would have won. I could be wrong, though.
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