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don't understand the answers on the illegal immigrant children "they broke the law therefore they are not subject to the jursidiction of our laws" ummm wtf? how can they be breaking the law then?
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I am convinced that all the otehr candidates really hate Ramaswamy too
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OctaMurk posted:I am convinced that all the otehr candidates really hate Ramaswamy too Oh, they very clearly loathe him. I doubt any of them really like each other, but Vivek the hate particularly--and he's a good target to go after, being high among the polls (at least, "high" as far as Not-Trumps go).
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Pence asked a question about why he didn't end Obamacare when they held all three branches of government and I start to tune out in expectation of the incoming word salad and suddenly my wife and I both go what the gently caress? as he starts talking about executing mass shooters.
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It’s a debate so I know but it’s genuinely impressive how so many people can never answer a direct question and just talk about whatever they want so consistently.
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Oh and thanks Christie now I've got the image of Dark Brandon getting giggy with it and as if that wasn't bad enough Pence has to talk about sleeping with Mother.
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All I know is Fox News is never inviting that Univision moderator back.
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STAC Goat posted:All I know is Fox News is never inviting that Univision moderator back. I thought the moderators asked pretty good questions, and did try to get the debate under control short of actually cutting the mics which I think they arent allowed to do
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Mike Pence firmly establishing that he fucks was the funniest thing.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Mike Pence firmly establishing that he fucks was the funniest thing. i'd sure hope so; he's got two kids!
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Nothing interesting here, just multiple candidates for President of a major political party casually talking about declaring war on Mexico. Is the strategy to make Trump seem moderate?
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STAC Goat posted:All I know is Fox News is never inviting that Univision moderator back. What did they do? I didn't get to see it.
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Zotix posted:What did they do? I didn't get to see it. Asked good questions. I mean no one is answering them, but they're good questions.
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OctaMurk posted:I do not like Mr. Vivek, in fact I dislike him more than anyone else on this stage I'm trying to decide on a TrumpyBear nickname for him, and what I've got so far is Sheev, Sheevek, and Dalek Ramaswamy. Think I'm going for Dalek Ramaswamy for now. Haven't seen most of this debate yet so maybe he'll live up to one of them.
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Onomarchus posted:I'm trying to decide on a TrumpyBear nickname for him, and what I've got so far is Sheev, Sheevek, and Dalek Ramaswamy. Think I'm going for Dalek Ramaswamy for now. Haven't seen most of this debate yet so maybe he'll live up to one of them. trump is gonna say, "ramasmarmy or whatever" and then vivek will turn to dust
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OctaMurk posted:trump is gonna say, "ramasmarmy or whatever" and then vivek will turn to dust they're not enemies yet. vivek is running as the pro-trump candidate in trump's absense, and, if convicted, vivek would in theory have placed himself in the position of being the party's choice in lieu of jailed trump. it's an insane strategy, but so are the other candidates'
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Onomarchus posted:I'm trying to decide on a TrumpyBear nickname for him, and what I've got so far is Sheev, Sheevek, and Dalek Ramaswamy. Think I'm going for Dalek Ramaswamy for now. Haven't seen most of this debate yet so maybe he'll live up to one of them. You, I and the entire world know that it's going to be "Swami".
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Zwabu posted:You, I and the entire world know that it's going to be "Swami". Given how deranged the gop is getting I imagine if push comes to shove trump will just drop a full on slur. I have to say, I know Chris Christie is a ghoul but I genuinely love seeing him just total people on the debate stage. It gives me fond memories of the end of Rubio.
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Onomarchus posted:I'm trying to decide on a TrumpyBear nickname for him, and what I've got so far is Sheev, Sheevek, and Dalek Ramaswamy. Think I'm going for Dalek Ramaswamy for now. Haven't seen most of this debate yet so maybe he'll live up to one of them. my experience with being online in the 2000s tells me it's going to be Vivek Ramalamadingdong
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Vain Vivek came up on the Behind the Bastards podcast and I think that’s on the same level as Low-Energy Jeb or Lying Ted
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E-Z Bake Vivek
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Zwabu posted:You, I and the entire world know that it's going to be "Swami". Vivian Random Swami I hate these clowns a whole lot and I kinda want to die, but I'm going to enjoy watching his career implode
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I sort of like how David Pakman pronounces it, veh-FAKE.
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FWIW the media seems to be settling on Haley giving the best debate performance, but also that the debates don't matter at all.
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Name Change posted:FWIW the media seems to be settling on Haley giving the best debate performance, but also that the debates don't matter at all. Haley and Christie are the only ones that sounds like normalish people and Christie is the only one I would have a beer with
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OctaMurk posted:Haley and Christie are the only ones that sounds like normalish people and Christie is the only one I would have a beer with Eww, he's a Republican. Don't drink with poo poo.
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OctaMurk posted:don't understand the answers on the illegal immigrant children it is a completely insane legal argument trying to sidestep an utterly, incontrovertibly* black and white clause in the constitution * - there's probably an only mostly insane reading where a child of two unauthorized immigrant parents born on a tribal reservation doesn't get instant citizenship but stripping citizenship from two children per decade isn't exactly what these monsters are going for
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OctaMurk posted:Haley and Christie are the only ones that sounds like normalish people and Christie is the only one I would have a beer with Haley is just as much of an insane transphobe as the worst of them and Christie has historical evidence against him that he's a worm with a mile sized grudge against anyone that goes against him on par with Trump's. He'd throw anyone or anything under the bus for the presidency or for legacy. Just because they look normal doesn't mean they both aren't hateful shambolic wrecks trying to resemble a decent human.
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Roe being overturned was a massive unforced error for the right and I think Trump is going to pick Haley for VP in an attempt to appeal more to women on the basis of her moderate (for republicans) abortion response. I hope I’m wrong but I do think Trump is absolutely going to win in 2024.
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He's going to lose to Sleepy Joe with nearly or probably exactly the same states as 2020, with the same claims of fraud, and yell about it until one of them dies. If Donnie goes first he'll go cackling at how everyone, especially his enemies, thinks he's special.
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Since we're making predictions: Trump will lose, and the Dems will take the House The Dems will also keep the Senate (50 seats)
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I really don't see how Trump is going to win having already lost once to Biden and the GOP consistently underperforming in elections. Unless uneducated white people really are that unhinged and just can't help themselves to vote for the guy a second time.
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Mustang posted:I really don't see how Trump is going to win having already lost once to Biden and the GOP consistently underperforming in elections. They are. Plus, every President has lower enthusiasm for their re-election, the out party generally has higher enthusiasm, and you don't have an ongoing major crisis like COVID and Trump's first term to motivate people. It is definitely not impossible.
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Several recent polls have Trump and Biden in a dead heat. Polls this far out (and polls in general) are not very useful but it's really foolish to think that Trump (or Biden) couldn't win again. Biden crushed the popular vote, but in the actual swing states that carried him to an EC victory, his margin of victory was pretty slim. Trump could absolutely flip that small amount depending on how things are going in late 2024.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They are. I'd argue that Trump never really left and is a known (and hated) quantity. The way Democrats see it, he is responsible for everything being bad, him and the Republicans, and draw a straight line from Trump being in power to now (lack of abortion access, etc.). I don't think it's impossible, but extremely unlikely that he wins. He will get absolutely ripped apart in ads. There's a lot that's unprecedented with Trump. Losers also don't typically win again, and even Grover Cleveland won the popular vote all three times. Queering Wheel posted:Several recent polls have Trump and Biden in a dead heat. Polls this far out (and polls in general) are not very useful but it's really foolish to think that Trump (or Biden) couldn't win again. Biden crushed the popular vote, but in the actual swing states that carried him to an EC victory, his margin of victory was pretty slim. Trump could absolutely flip that small amount depending on how things are going in late 2024. Trump has yet to face the onslaught of ads that's coming his way, and the Swifites don't pick up their phone during polling calls. Being a little more serious, while Biden's margin wasn't great in the close states, Trump would have to flip them all back to win. That's what's hard - it going the right way in disparate states. And Republicans are doing poorly in many of those states now - AZ, MI, PA, WI come to mind. small butter fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Sep 29, 2023 |
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Trump's campaign is absolutely bleeding money from what I've been reading. I'll be curious how it works out for him through next year. He just may not have the money to run ads when it's needed.
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Zotix posted:Trump's campaign is absolutely bleeding money from what I've been reading. I'll be curious how it works out for him through next year. He just may not have the money to run ads when it's needed. He still has plenty of money. He has raised an enormous amount of money, but he is diverting his "outside spending" that would normally go to Super PACs to his legal defense fund. He can't use any actual campaign money for it. He's raised well over $140 million through his campaign and various political funds. But, he's spent about $22 million on his legal defense. He's "wasted" a large amount of money, but still has a good bit. He can also theoretically go back to the same donors for more money because they are "outside political organizations" and not part of his campaign. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Sep 29, 2023 |
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