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Shard
Jul 30, 2005

https://twitter.com/shabbsart/status/1707413285782577560

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Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



https://twitter.com/shabbsart/status/1707424750396686652

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.
https://twitter.com/BravoCoolee/status/922441205035798528?s=20

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

No that happens on these forums too

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Elephant Ambush posted:

No that happens on these forums too

Well if you like Reddit so much maybe you should go post there

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

History Comes Inside! posted:

Well if you like Reddit so much maybe you should go post there

Sounds like something a 4chan poster would say

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Lamuella posted:

Remember, folks.

Anything that happened in wrestling while you were a child was the golden age of perfect television.

For me that was the Hulk Hogan era in the 80s and even though I absolutely loved it as a kid, holy gently caress there's no comparison. Modern day AEW, ROH, TJPW, DDT, NJPW and probably all the weird indie poo poo I nevr saw like Chikara and PWG, blows it out of the water. Hell, even the mid-90s stuff of when my brother and I got back into, and way into, wrestling was objectively poo poo compared to the stuff we're getting now, especially if you compare to WWF stuff (like these dudes 100% are) where only a couple of guys could even theoretically hang in the conversation.

E:

Hell, even if you widen the net and consider non-WWF stuff, it's still not even close. The top stuff from AJPW and NJPW was incredible and ECW had good moments, but we truly are spoiled these days.

Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Sep 28, 2023

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1707376702018507105

no clue why thurston is coping this hard about the 85.5k number. he is literally saying that tickets scanned means tickets distributed, which makes no sense. guess he doesnt want to deal with the hordes of vincels who would come for him if he acknowledged it. and while he calls turnstiles an anachronistic turn, wembley does in fact have physical turnstiles

Ringo Roadagain fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Sep 28, 2023

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


there are definitely some tickets that were distributed and never scanned at the venue. Case in point I bought tickets for myself and my wife and she wasn't feeling well on the day of the show so ended up not going.

jackofarcades
Sep 2, 2011

Okay, I'll admit it took me a bit to get into it... But I think I kinda love this!! I'm Spider-Man!! I'm actually Spider-Man!! HA!
I think it would be in fact hard to cut yourself off from the dirtsheet stuff nowadays, unless you just completely did not want to engage or read any discussion about wrestling at all.

Like even if I wanted to just listen to a podcast about Dynamite, they're going to discuss Edge rumors or speculate about upcoming plans, and that stuff will be informed by Meltzer or Fightful reports

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Ringo Roadagain posted:

https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1707376702018507105

no clue why thurston is coping this hard about the 85.5k number. he is literally saying that tickets scanned means tickets distributed, which makes no sense. guess he doesnt want to deal with the hordes of vincels who would come for him if he acknowledged it. and while he calls turnstiles an anachronistic turn, wembley does in fact have physical turnstiles

vince announces 600k stark raving romaniacs at the texas mungofuck dome -- probably close enough. ill update the wiki
tony claims 85k attendance at wembley -- what does it mean to 'attend' an event, i mean to truly be present at it? han-shan once said that 'how did i get here? my heart's not like yours. if your heart was like mine, youd be here. whenever i see people, i only say "aim for cold mountain"'. i think ticket takers work the same way

post hole digger fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Sep 28, 2023

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins
Can confirm there were turnstiles. They have the tall ribcage ones, not just the bar across the fare gate.

But there were also tour packages you could buy for All In that included coach bus, hotel stays, and floor seats. I know some people arrived through the bus garage and were escorted to their seats, and were counted as a group rather than scanned individually.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I’m willing to believe Tony fluffed the numbers but that’s well within traditional wrestling margins (The Silverdome Index, if you will.)

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

My opinion is now that humble tony downplayed the number. He knew if he announced the real number, 85.5k, it would be too much for the e drones. So he took pity on them and announced 81k. But this Brit couldn’t keep his mouth shut.

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Maxwell Lord posted:

I’m willing to believe Tony fluffed the numbers but that’s well within traditional wrestling margins (The Silverdome Index, if you will.)

The correct term is Super No Vacancy!

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



post hole digger posted:

vince announces 600k stark raving romaniacs at the texas mungofuck dome -- probably close enough. ill update the wiki
tony claims 85k attendance at wembley -- what does it mean to 'attend' an event, i mean to truly be present at it? han-shan once said that 'how did i get here? my heart's not like yours. if your heart was like mine, youd be here. whenever i see people, i only say "aim for cold mountain"'. i think ticket takers work the same way

lmao

VideoWitch
Oct 9, 2012

For a period of time after All In someone had updated the Wrestlemania 32 attendance number on the Wikipedia page for list of pro wrestling attendance records to be like 93k, with the citation being an archived WOR article from like the day it happened, but everywhere else on Wikipedia it listed it as 80k which I find funny. Couldn't even be bothered to consistently fake the number for the company they like

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins

VideoWitch posted:

For a period of time after All In someone had updated the Wrestlemania 32 attendance number on the Wikipedia page for list of pro wrestling attendance records to be like 93k, with the citation being an archived WOR article from like the day it happened, but everywhere else on Wikipedia it listed it as 80k which I find funny. Couldn't even be bothered to consistently fake the number for the company they like

The best one on that page was that someone claimed the entire attendance of Rolling Loud counted towards Smackdown's attendance, which put it ahead of All In. So someone else said if that counts, then so does the Gamescom attendance with the AEW event hosted by Evil Uno, which still beats WWE.

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.

MassRafTer posted:

We did in fact have dirtsheets and spoilers when we were a kid.

When I was watching pro wrestling in the late 90's, early 2000's, there was rec.sport.pro-wrestling, and it was crazy as hell.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


El Generico posted:

When I was watching pro wrestling in the late 90's, early 2000's, there was rec.sport.pro-wrestling, and it was crazy as hell.

fuuuck usenet was so good. Imagine how grognardy that newsgroup would be if it were still going.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Posting this here because people will get mad if I post it in the AEW thread where it belongs but it is every AEW fan's duty to vote for Christian Cage in the Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic Award so he can get a plaque made and carry it around on TV.

https://twitter.com/ThisIsNasty/status/1707485332877242647

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



https://twitter.com/radiofreecanes/status/1707614806092534119?t=iZ7oFJg4wIvhgRoBi2HhrA&s=19

:lmao: owned

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


Someone just got a new charcuterie board.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?




Holy gently caress lmao.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008


This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

CommonShore posted:

fuuuck usenet was so good. Imagine how grognardy that newsgroup would be if it were still going.

Still going? Buddy, you're posting in it.

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
I know I'm kind of late on that blind nostalgia post, but I guess it was a bit different for me. I knew spoilers existed circa 2001, but I tended to avoid them because, to my knowledge, Raw and Smackdown didn't air until the weekend in the UK, and even stumbling upon the latest storylines plastered all over WWE's front page kind of ruined the treat for me. I had one friend at school who was somewhat tuned into the backstage gossip (it was he who first told me that HHH and Stephanie were legit married, that Stephanie was ostensibly head of creative and this is why HHH won everything), but that was about it because my teenage years were most assuredly not a golden era for wrestling, at least not WWE, lol. I started learning more about the ins and outs of wrestling much later, when I turned back to it during a rough patch.

Tbh, one of the reasons I don't watch much current wrestling is because I don't like a lot of the fan culture. I just find it kind of obnoxious, driven by paid influencers sharing bad take memes and all sides getting a bit too defensive about what they like, to the point you just end up with a bunch of slapfights all the time. If I focus on older stuff, I don't have to think so much about what the performers are currently doing and how disappointed I'll be when something does or doesn't happen. I know it's not too different from most other sports in all these ways, but the Internet kind of ruined those for me too. :(

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
The difference is that Christian’s dead dad jokes are funny.

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


TinTower posted:

The difference is that Christian’s dead dad jokes are funny.

And also recency. WCCW got this award for exploiting the very recent deaths and near deaths of Mike Von Erich, Gino Hernandez, and Fritz Von Erich. WWF got it for interviewing Melanie Pillman the day after Brian died. Buddy Wayne has been dead since 2015.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
I'm curious which five Meaningless Awards he's even referring to because looking at the list:

Award is given explicitly for "exploiting the death of [wrestling figure]"
1. WCCW / Mike Von Erich (1985)
2. WWE / Eddie Guerrero (2006)
3. WWE / Paul Bearer (2013)
4. WWE / Reid Fliehr (2015)

So it can't just be him looking for "exploiting death" term search unless he's including "Usage of Mike Von Erich's near-death" in 1985 as the fifth. If you break it out a bit further:

5. WWC giving Jose Gonzalez a babyface push a year after Bruiser Brody got stabbed (1989)
6. FMW: Onita stabbing Jose Gonzalez two years after Bruiser Brody got stabbed (1990)
7. Melanie Pillman interview the day after Brian Pillman died (1997)
8. Over the Edge PPV continuing after Owen Hart died (1999)

So there are at least eight awards given for directly "exploiting the death of a professional wrestling figure" which I guess is analogous to "Christian Cage using Buddy Wayne for heat" but as pointed out, Buddy's been dead for eight years and all of the other cases range involve either people dead for ~20 minutes to a few months. Or in the longer term cases, people doing wrestling angles playing off their involvement with murdering another wrestler.

If you want to cast a wider death net, you can add
9. Comparing Chris Adams's kayfabe blindness to Gino Hernandez's death (1986)
10. Exploiting the Persian Gulf War with Sgt. Slaughter's pro-Saddam Hussein gimmick (1991)
11. Stephanie McMahon comparing her father's indictments to 9/11 (2001)
12. Triple H accuses Kane of murder and necrophilia (2002)
13. Kane and Lita pregnancy/wedding/miscarriage angle (2004)
14. Muhammad Hassan terrorist angle not cut from show on the day of London bombings (2005)
15. Promoting Jimmy Snuka as a hero in death not long after his trial over the death of Nancy Argentino (2017)
16. WWE's Relationship with Saudi Arabia (2018 and 2019)

And spinning out even further you have angles playing off fake heart attacks, real heart attacks, Scott Hall's alcoholism, Jeff Hardy's kayfabe drug overdose, all of which I guess merely tease real-life death, not actual death, all of which tease "SOMEONE MIGHT DIE FOR REAL WHILE YOU WATCH", not referencing people who have been dead for years or decades.

You might think it is in poor taste or cheap heat, but there is a reason no one nominated "Edge & Christian make JFK assassination jokes in Dallas 38 years after the fact" into "most disgusting promotional tactic".

itsnews
Jul 25, 2022
https://x.com/junkyardjake618/status/1707601310353080776?s=61&t=BqwnpU_jGktuHDu1JOKJ3A

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin


Well, it finally happened. We reached peak wrestling twitter. Elon, shut it down, it's not getting any wilder or funnier than this.

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.
I don't understand the charcuterie board joke :(

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




apophenium posted:

I don't understand the charcuterie board joke :(

WWE sent him a very lovely charcuterie board that he was really hyped about

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

History Comes Inside! posted:

WWE sent him a very lovely charcuterie board that he was really hyped about

It was dope and toxic goons make fun of him instead of pledging to follow his great suggestion that we all vote for Christian.

A Fancy Hat
Nov 18, 2016

Always remember that the former President was dumber than the dumbest person you've ever met by a wide margin

apophenium posted:

I don't understand the charcuterie board joke :(

Alfred Konuwa was once sent a "dope rear end" charcuterie board (his words) by the WWE because they thought his articles for Forbes meant he was a distinguished writer or something.

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.

History Comes Inside! posted:

WWE sent him a very lovely charcuterie board that he was really hyped about



A Fancy Hat posted:

Alfred Konuwa was once sent a "dope rear end" charcuterie board (his words) by the WWE because they thought his articles for Forbes meant he was a distinguished writer or something.

Haha nice, thanks

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



A Fancy Hat posted:

Alfred Konuwa was once sent a "dope rear end" charcuterie board (his words) by the WWE because they thought his articles for Forbes meant he was a distinguished writer or something.

QT Marshall also burned him with a charcuterie board tweet and QTV segment

Bonk
Aug 4, 2002

Douche Baggins
Also it was just a few packs of Kroger deli meats, so even "dope rear end" is pretty tenuous.

Really it was over for him when WrestleCringe called him a "Grimace-looking cheese clown".

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Bonk posted:

Also it was just a few packs of Kroger deli meats, so even "dope rear end" is pretty tenuous.

Couldn't even send him Publix?

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

https://twitter.com/JunkyardJake618/status/1707786328593555928?t=jib1aIuGx7VZcg8-wqPrnw&s=19

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