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Velius posted:Ishamael’s actor is pretty awesome at the benevolent evil dude. I was wondering, have we seen him actually harm anyone on camera? When that girl was hugging the trolloc I kept waiting for the inevitable bad outcome and it didn’t happen! That was cute and nice! Getting a bit of his backstory and you could probably see a way for him to justify all sorts of evil doings but I’m not sure if we’ve really seen it. Not directly harming, but he was the guy making Rand pull a bat out of his throat and haunting their dreams in S1.
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Phenotype posted:Honestly, his character is pretty hard to get a read on. He's a bit of a schmuck, and he hasn't shown any of the magic powers the others have, and if it wasn't for that vague bit about how the weave made all four of them special somehow, I'd be thinking he'd just head back to Two Rivers. I'm not sure what he's really DOING here anymore. Maybe his thing is being captured by various people trying to influence the others? feeling like he's probably the Judas of this story maybe not magical or "special" in the positive sense, just a critical spoke in the wheel
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Mr Beens posted:This season is so much better than the last, but the dude playing Rand is either a terrible actor or they have made a conscious decision to write and direct him as the most boring person ever to live. gonna disagree with this, we've seen a lot of emotional range from Rand's actor but only in snippets. I think he's just not being given a whole lot at this time beyond "you are a rudderless ship caught in a current and every twist and turn you make is because of someone else" -- his character is still very much coming to grips with that. he's ineffective right now because he hasn't been able to help his friends, he hasn't been able to weave, and he's not sure who he can actually trust so of course he's kind of withdrawn and sullen. he's also still pretty young and stubborn/resistant and I think that counts for some of his general attitude. he's almost kinda petulant sometimes. all that said I would love to see him move past this phase and start taking ownership for himself and his life. Falme may be the real start of that. that's something I'm excited about.
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If I recall correctly, Josha Stradowski has read the entire book series. He should have a decent idea of what Rand’s mental state is at any given point, though whether that agrees with the writers’ changes is up for debate. Lord knows Rosamund Pike has read the series, but that doesn’t help with S2 Moiraine because that plot line was invented out of whole cloth for the show.
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Mr Beens posted:This season is so much better than the last, but the dude playing Rand is either a terrible actor or they have made a conscious decision to write and direct him as the most boring person ever to live. He is not a good actor. In the latest episode, asking Lanfear to save him, it sounds like he is reading his lines in a rehearsal. Lanfear carries him. They'd do well to give her more screentime.
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Hughmoris posted:He is not a good actor. In the latest episode, asking Lanfear to save him, it sounds like he is reading his lines in a rehearsal. No, he sounded sincere and desperate.
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AceClown posted:Padan Fain - Perfection, when Padan Fain is not on screen all the other characters should be asking "where is Padan Fain?"
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CainFortea posted:No, he sounded sincere and desperate. they've also been complaining about egwene being a bad actor along with most of the other main characters. hard to argue with people seemingly watching a different show than i am eke out fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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DTurtle posted:As others said, if you can handle what was in the TV show then you are fine for the books. There is a lot of violence and there is some rough/hard hitting stuff, but there is never any torture porn. This is a really interesting comment about the way Jordan wrote violence, because I find a lot of the violence in this show pretty gratuitous. Not in a "oh my, so much blood and gore!" kind of way, but in the sense that a lot of the action scenes have felt perfunctory. It's improved over this season, but in the early episodes especially the action scenes seemed like they were added because you need an action scene per episode to keep viewers watching and excited, but they didn't really express anything interesting about the characters or plot. They're also not particularly well-shot or choreographed - take the big whitecloak fight with Perrin and his new Aiel friend, which ended up looking very clumsy. The latest episodes are better I think in terms of making the violence meaningful, like the scene of Aviendha willingly receiving punishment from her allies.
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eke out posted:they've also been complaining about egwene being a bad actor along with most of the other main characters. hard to argue with people seemingly watching a different show than i am That's fair. I'm just not feeling a lot of the cast. The writing and directing aren't doing them any favors. Give Lanfear and Padan Fain more screen time and I'll be happy.
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i think people are conflating bad acting with bad writing
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By the way, I love how every time we see Lanfear she's in an increasingly more elaborate dominatrix style outfit. She absolutely rules.
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Lanfear looks loving incredible 😍 But seriously, I wish each season was 10 episodes. It would add so much more.
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one thing rafe mentioned in some q&a was that, though they had more time per episode to work with this season, the entirety of filming was complete prior to the first episode of season 1 airing so, you know, to the extent that they're adapting in this season, they had to do all that adaptation before having any mass feedback
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Season 2 was filmed before 1 aired? You sure?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I had to immediately rewind that scene and watch it again. "Your name sings in his ears, we don't have time". Nynaeve is constantly moving back and forth between the badass kind of stubborn and the irritating kind of stubborn, and I love it so much. 
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Season 2 was filmed before 1 aired? You sure? S2 production started July 2021. S1 was released Nov 2021. S2 wasn't finished with production until May 2022 though. So clearly most of the writing was already done before S1 even aired.
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Metis of the Hallway posted:This is a really interesting comment about the way Jordan wrote violence, because I find a lot of the violence in this show pretty gratuitous. Not in a "oh my, so much blood and gore!" kind of way, but in the sense that a lot of the action scenes have felt perfunctory. It's improved over this season, but in the early episodes especially the action scenes seemed like they were added because you need an action scene per episode to keep viewers watching and excited, but they didn't really express anything interesting about the characters or plot. They're also not particularly well-shot or choreographed - take the big whitecloak fight with Perrin and his new Aiel friend, which ended up looking very clumsy. The latest episodes are better I think in terms of making the violence meaningful, like the scene of Aviendha willingly receiving punishment from her allies. I think of the points made in this video. First, when you see cuts and the camera moving, they're compensating for the actors not knowing how to fight. Second, putting action, impact, and reaction in one continuous shot reads way better. When you cut between shots for the action and reaction it doesn't come across well. And most of the fights in WOT are cut between action and reaction, like the Aiel beatdown in this episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PCtIaM_GQ&t=175s Vim Fuego fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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Rarity posted:It won't be a true book adaptation until someone gets spanked Yeah I'm hoping they just cut that out. Moiraine's story in S1 about how she learned to channel was enough for the whole series IMO
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Rarity posted:Elayne is perfect and I cannot say enough about how Ceara Coveney is nailing the naive smugness of being a princess while still managing to be likeable Agreed, she's killin it
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Hughmoris posted:That's fair. I'm just not feeling a lot of the cast. The writing and directing aren't doing them any favors. I’m with you regarding the cast. Certain deliveries feel really… flat and soulless. Like the actors themselves lack conviction regarding their characters and lines, and their deliveries lack weight as a result. Doesn’t happen all the time — some performances are truly great — but it’s quite jarring when it does. Some have come a long way though. Rutherford’s (perrin) acting was abysmal in S1 and truly rocks this season.
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exmarx posted:i think people are conflating bad acting with bad writing I think people are also conflating individual people with other people. My post triggered this line of conversation and a) only mentioned one character I had issue with and b) explicitly said it was either bad acting or bad writing.
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Vim Fuego posted:I think of the points made in this video. First, when you see cuts and the camera moving, they're compensating for the actors not knowing how to fight. The text/speech by Renna says that any pain felt by the sul'dam is felt double by the damage. Which would suggest Egwene had hit her. However the visuals IMO clearly show Egwene only trying to punch her, but not actually getting that far. There is no physical reaction by Renna to being hit, no marks or so on her, and the punch is obviously short.
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I will heap this praise on the show: Elayne seems competent and likeable
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CainFortea posted:S2 production started July 2021. rafe said shooting was complete https://twitter.com/rafejudkins/status/1707083265947975969
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They are currently filming season 3 (per random internet sources). If season 2 had already finished filming and still took two years before release, I dread to think of the wait for season 3.
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Hughmoris posted:They are currently filming season 3 (per random internet sources). probably still two years.
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Imagine watching season 8 in 2035 with the whole young cast being 40.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Imagine watching season 8 in 2035 with the whole young cast being 40. I got a letter the other day saying the earliest date I can take my retirement is in 2036, it will be an early retirement treat. (I’m not going to live long enough to see the end am I?).
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Nothing Amazon has put out has gone longer than like 3 seasons so good luck getting 8.
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Expanse got like, five and a half right?
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and that was also a bezos pet project like wot
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The Expanse has three seasons funded by Amazon. Bosch had seven, and more thanks to shenanigans that technically mean the further seasons are spin off. Next greatest is five seasons with Maisel. Not sure anything else has received five seasons, though I'm sure they'd like to think that Rings of Power will (lol).
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The Boys is getting a fourth season though I'm not really sure where they can go with the premise except more wheel-spinning bookended by shocking superhero gore.
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What is a forsaken Why are they so much more powerful than the modern witch Are the people that control the witches with the pacifier witches too or are they regular non magic people and their wristband sucks their witches power? I kinda feel like I missed an entire episode because the most recent episode went all in on Lam having a plan and all involving Rand and I don’t remember what led up to it. Also, all of a sudden Rand can use magic now when previously he was only able to use when he was like stressed or in danger? Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Sep 30, 2023 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:What is a forsaken I started to answer this, but I'm not actually sure it's been thoroughly explained in the show yet and whether or not it would be a spoiler. Whatever. They're the Dark One's "chosen" generals, highest ranking channeler Darkfriends from the Age of Legends.
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