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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeha plus I think the first 4-month-season is called Heresy, which IIRC was a word that Xivu yells over and over and over in ghosts of the deep. Maybe that's a good time for some Xivu Killin' It's the third episode - first episode is Echoes and looks to be Vex related (maybe Black Garden?) and second is Revenant which appears to be Fikrul related. the Heresy imagery also has a bunch of hive swords sooooo.  None of the dungeons have resolved any major plot beats, either they've built on them or acted as bridges.
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You know it, baby! Dungeons can probably have more plot beats once they're an actual part of the Episode, compared to separate products from seasons like they are now. They probably don't want the bad optics of charging an additional $20 to resolve the plot line
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Episode 3 will be us vs xivu over who gets to wear the witness's rear end as a hat in the next destiny. The next destiny game will be about maxxing your leg press while the ghost of calus takes up his pen and instead of writing fanfic goes straight into commission drawing, but all the requests are from him too lol.
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Has anyone found a reliable master Avarokk one-phase this season? Ideally one that allows for some class flexibility.
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https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/9-28-23-twid TWID Checkmate updates Gunsmith weapon focusing for world drops
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I don't know how CHeckmate works but it is wild to me that these are four different balancing actions? Increased damage penalty on: Reduced damage penalty on: Increased bonus damage on: Reduced bonus damage on:
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Echoes episode speculation. That could be a Psion, not a Vex, in the teaser art and the red color represents the third Darkness subclass. The third Darkness subclass is psionic based: Darkness = consciousness made manifest = Psionic powers. Any overall resolution of the Vex is pushed to later content or left at "the time robots wanted their own Veil but couldn't make it work" likely because they don't have "minds" in the same sense as the other species, existing as they do as a universal self-sustaining pattern not individual mental states as other species have.
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sunday at work posted:Echoes episode speculation. That could be a Psion, not a Vex, in the teaser art and the red color represents the third Darkness subclass. The third Darkness subclass is psionic based: Darkness = consciousness made manifest = Psionic powers. The red theming of this episode does seem very close to the "leaked" third darkness subclass colors, and there really is no other analogue to this color in the game thematically other than SIVA, which short of a new subclass is probably their second biggest hook to get people to buy into the new episodic model after TFS. But I am guessing the new subclass is in this episode in order to sell it better. Also given Bungie's insistence on a new subclass not making sense during TFS since we are in the traveler and imbued with light, a new subclass not based on light or dark makes even more sense if we have concluded the "light and darkness saga" by making the traveler and witness kiss or whatever. Truly wild speculation: we lose all current subclasses after TFS and ONLY have the red subclass in echoes. Aqua Dracula fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Sep 29, 2023 |
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The echoes image definitely looks more like Psion & Disciple Collars to me than Vex stuff I don't doubt the Vex will be involved in one way or another, but just going off the Pic it makes me think of the Rhulk and nezarec dollars +Psion ornamentation
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Aqua Dracula posted:
That would be hilarious and I would personally love it, but it would also completely gently caress up 90% of the game's existing content. Then again, I'm one of those weirdos who loves those segments in games where, well into the storyline, they temporarily take away all your stuff and you have to improvise with whatever you're able to scrounge up instead of relying on your giant arsenal and 300 gallons of healing potions. At most they could do a campaign mission where you're forced into red mode.
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ponzicar posted:At most they could do a campaign mission where you're forced into red mode. No 80s montage this time though, please.
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I forget, does the Vanguard have Rhulks corpse?
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Mesadoram posted:I forget, does the Vanguard have Rhulks corpse? I don’t think so. Dude became a tree at the end of the raid.
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Still love the implication that your guardian picked up the crown of sorrow, carried it back to the tower, and handed it to the raid sweeperbot. Despite that when you actually see the crown it’s the size of an SUV
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PERMACAV 50 posted:I don’t think so. Dude became a tree at the end of the raid. I feel like not packing him up and putting him in a very small and heavily locked container is a very Very bad idea. But I suppose some people will be surprised when he sprouts back into his normal form  .
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Mesadoram posted:I forget, does the Vanguard have Rhulks corpse? All the disciples turn into that tree thing, I assume they just leave them?
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haveblue posted:Even the Vanguard doesn't want to mess with Tree Law Tree law!? TREEEEEEEEEEEEEE LAAAAAAAAAAAW! 
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Hackan Slash posted:All the disciples turn into that tree thing, I assume they just leave them? I feel like it’s been implied that eventually grows back into the guy again, it just takes millennia or something?? but I don’t think we know that for a fact, it’s just been hinted as possible
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Dead Like Rev posted:Tree law!? TREEEEEEEEEEEEEE LAAAAAAAAAAAW! I once took a tree case on contingency and effectively got $1000/hr for my work on it. Has the stability situation improved yet?
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haveblue posted:Still love the implication that your guardian picked up the crown of sorrow, carried it back to the tower, and handed it to the raid sweeperbot. Despite that when you actually see the crown it’s the size of an SUV We turned it into an engram, ez pz.
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Paracelsus posted:I once took a tree case on contingency and effectively got $1000/hr for my work on it. Living the dream I see.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The echoes image definitely looks more like Psion & Disciple Collars to me than Vex stuff Ooooh yeah, that could very well be - there's still the matter of Yirix outstanding and the colour scheme and "Echoes" is very reminiscent of the Calus stuff from last year. The headdress looks very familiar to the Vex Goblins' and red typically is their colour and its been a while since they've featured prominently so they're due some centre stage but the dark helmet thing in the middle is unlike any of their heads so a psion would make more sense.
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The return of Eramis always made me lol because like, we just...left her there on the top of a tower. Didn't bother to guard it or even put a box around her or anything. I feel like a couple of times enemies have come back and the vanguard is like *~*somehow they have come back, that should be impossible *~* and I'm just like, guys, we are all back from the dead constantly. the hive gods love doin' that. let's try and figure out how and why, but lets not pretend that this is unusual or even improbable in this world. of course somebody more lore-infromed could tell me i'm an idiot for whatever reason but I remember that take occuring to me with Eramis or somebody else. Also, Calus is dead and also turned into at tree-branchy-pile-thing, as someone else mentioned. Did we do something with that? Is it still around? It doesn't' appear as a setpiece when you go listen to Osiris & Nimbus's spooky podcast. But maybe thats just them not putting certain plot elements into game world?
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Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:The return of Eramis always made me lol because like, we just...left her there on the top of a tower. Didn't bother to guard it or even put a box around her or anything. 
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Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:The return of Eramis always made me lol because like, we just...left her there on the top of a tower. Didn't bother to guard it or even put a box around her or anything. i actually have an answer to that: Kith posted:big difference between "assumed it wouldn't be a problem" and "we literally could not do anything about it" Kith posted:reminder that eramis was deep inside riis-reborn, one of the largest concentrations of hostile fallen, an area absolutely bristling with defenses and zealous troops ready to kill any machine-spawn who happened to show up. sure, one-to-three idiots managed to push through, but anything more sizable than that (like, say, a vanguard ship carrying the necessary equipment/personnel to chisel the cold lady off of the floor) is going to encourage the application of larger and/or more esoteric defenses (like raid mechanics). we also had no idea if eramis was still alive - she was frozen far more thoroughly than a guardian ever has been, and game mechanics reflected that absolutely nothing happened when you tried to destroy her.
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"To all Guardians: Europa is officially off-limits for the foreseeable future. At this time, the Vanguard cannot provide the necessary support for exploratory missions. Some have already learned this... the hard way. So, I repeat: Europa is off-limits. We're stretched too far thin to lose even a single Guardian." Zavala was very prickly during the Beyond Light campaign about any activity on Europa being unsanctioned, to the point that the "Europa is a restricted zone" quote was briefly a r/dtg meme
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Fair points all around. There’s a line of dialog Ikroa drops every once in awhile when you’re visiting her at the tower. A very icy, “Hey bud the vanguard is not thrilled with your extracurricular behavior. Where does your loyalty lie?” (Very paraphrased obviously). That line struck me, Because it is easy to think of the vanguard as the end-all authority, even when you have drifter or Elsie or others showing they have their own agendas. I don’t think a lot about what guardians are up to outside of the obvious player activities. Are their guardians not doing hero poo poo, just ignoring the traveler? Are there still warlord types? I wasn’t really playing when the season with Lakshmi / factions were ended so it’s a bit of a dark spot in my lore knowledge. I’ve followed up some given lightfall, but not on everything. Also - that’s one thing I think is cool about destiny - that dying and respawning is not just a game mechanic, but is a literal in-world thing.
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Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:Also - that’s one thing I think is cool about destiny - that dying and respawning is not just a game mechanic, but is a literal in-world thing. the thanatonaut warlock faction kill themselves on purpose in order to have visions or something before being revived by their ghost
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Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:Fair points all around. I thought that line was a holdover from Season of the Snitch* and after they removed a bunch of lines and streamlined down that just stuck around as a default *if you suck at Destiny 2
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Fanged Lawn Wormy posted:Also - that’s one thing I think is cool about destiny - that dying and respawning is not just a game mechanic, but is a literal in-world thing. Most of the gamey stuff players do is canon in one way or another, it's great: bungie posted:Savin the Guardian showed a tremendous fondness for doing things; he had a pathologically task-oriented nature, which made him very useful to the Reef. Yet there was always the sense that his Ghost was watching, observing, reporting. And Savin was most of all greedy—not in the grasping manner of the petty, but in an enormous, all-consuming way, for he desired materials and experiences that would temper him into a better Guardian, and he was always experimenting with his strange powers in foolish ways that left him briefly dead, seeking "a new Super ability" or "some way to make my grenades faster." He grew tired of performing trivial tasks about the Reef, complaining that the dangerous repairs he made were endless and boring, and that he wanted to move on to new worlds. He leapt into space, repeatedly and without reason, as if his death were no more traumatic than a hop off a curb. Obsessed with reward and efficiency, he would rather do one profitable thing a thousand times than waste his efforts on a less beneficial novelty. There's another one I can't find right now that's a Cabal post combat report where after murking the Cabal commander the guardians just dance at each other and do sparrow tricks before transmatting out.
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quote:What Do Guardians Do When They're Not Saving the Solar System?
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ptroll posted:There's another one I can't find right now that's a Cabal post combat report where after murking the Cabal commander the guardians just dance at each other and do sparrow tricks before transmatting out. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/ghost-fragment-cabal-4
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There's also a lore page from around when Forsaken came out with an Awoken coming by to beseech Guardians for aid at the Dreaming City, only to be ignored for a purple ball until she said the magic words "I have treasure", and that one earlier about Titans being mad that Warlocks have a super that's just the Ward of Dawn But Better now (also the one Titan lost to a warlock punch in the Crucible and was very Not Mad about it) Crimson's lore tab is explicitly the player character keeping it around for the next time some dumb bullshit like the Red War happens over your Dinklebot's protests too, recognizing that it can heal you independently of your space magic. Also the whole thanatonauts thing that gets referenced is just Guardians shooting each other in the head repeatedly because they are pretty sure they're seeing things when they respawn. Savathun rolls her eyes about it and apparently Ikora was a big proponent of it. Prophecy's Titan armor gear references the player character in a world of darkness and nothing they cannot feel and ends every lore tab with "YOUR LIGHT FADES AWAY". Bungie does it a TON in Destiny lol
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I think someone earlier in the thread posted some stuff about the ahamkara lore and their desire to be real - that they know they are in a game. Lived that too. I remember I played the Marathon games when I learned about them in early college after I had played halo in high school. The Ahamkara stuff reminds me a lot of Marathon 3, but I couldn’t really tell you why specifically because 90% of that game went over my head. I should play it again.
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On the subject of the Vanguard, I don't remember if this was Forsaken or Beyond Light, but I remember in one of the campaigns, you did something that Zavala really didn't approve of and he reiterated that you by doing the stuff you'd done in the campaign, you had kinda violated his trust and needed to earn it back. And that was something that was pushed the entire year, because when you did Zavala's weekly powerful rewards and you talked to him, the flavor text was talking about how you were both working to get back to normal.
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