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Hughlander posted:You can 'trick' it, I have this linked to investigate with backblaze for instance https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/bwm1j6/backblaze_with_nas_step_by_step_guide Thanks. There's a post linked to that post that claims to accomplish the same thing with a symlink/junction combo, which seems even simpler.
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Taima posted:Does Backblaze really back up everything? If you want to  they will send you harddrives you can dump your stuff on to, then send back to them to get an initial image of all your stuff up there. But yeah, I only have a few TB and it took months to get done the first time.
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That's actually pretty awesome; I think the real crux here though is that at some point, it makes sense to just double up and bulk buy 120TB of hard drives and either RAID or even just put the files in a box somewhere, right? It's not just the cost of the services but also the amortized cost of upkeep over X years. The current market price for hard drives is about, what, ~$10 a TB? So a full backup would be pretty expensive, maybe a grand to furnish 100TB. But really at the end of the day, at least imo, movies, which constitute about 90% of my library since they are all 4k remux, can usually be re-acquired infinitely more easily than shows, especially niche or older ones (minus the linux ISOs that get taken down by some kind of dedicated usenet team, and I think we all know who those players are, so it's easy enough to back up just those). I think at the end of the day, if I backed up only my favorite and/or hard to find linux ISO, I think 2x18-20 TB drives could likely do the job, and like i said, movies (of people installing linux) tend to stick around a lot longer. The more we talk the more I think that's probably the call. I'm getting really tired of my job though, so idk if I feel like doing it right this second, but it totally makes sense. Whatever happened to the future we were sold of high capacity solid state making this all a borderline moot point? Does anyone know how close we are to any kind of big innovation in the storage space? Taima fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Oct 1, 2023 |
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Taima posted:Whatever happened to the future we were sold of high capacity solid state making this all a borderline moot point? Does anyone know how close we are to any kind of big innovation in the storage space? If I were the conspiracy theory type, I could totally believe "Big Streaming" are the ones keeping storage prices high. With gigabit internet being common place now, it feels like for the first time storage space/speed are the bottleneck in my setup. About 15 years ago, my friends and I considered buying a 1TB hard drive between us that we could use to trade Linux ISOs because it seemed inconceivable that we would ever fill it.
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When I lived in a shared house full of nerds we built a windows home server box and used its weird Drive Extender feature to pool a bunch of spare hard drives for a monster 2.5tb of Linux ISO storage, a silly amount of space that existed just because we could.
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Tea Bone posted:If I were the conspiracy theory type, I could totally believe "Big Streaming" are the ones keeping storage prices high. lol 'high'. I've had an adage for building new computers for literally the past 25 years. "At any point in the time the cost of a 'good sized' hard drive will be $250." I formed it when I brought a 2 gigabyte "BigFoot" in 1998 and spent $250 on it. Shucks.top tells me that $250 could get me an 18TB Easy store at the right time. So 25 years later, that's 13 doublings in size for the exact same dollar amount. Now look at the price of a new house in 1998 vs 2023 for what inflation has done.
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Hughlander posted:"At any point in the time the cost of a 'good sized' hard drive will be $250." That reminds me of putting $1200 MFM 5.25" full height seagate 1 GB ("the gigabrick") into SCO and NetWare servers early on in my career. They had enough spinning mass that it would make the cheap full tower cases they usually ended up in rock back and forth on power up if they weren't level and had all their feet on. But yeah.....$250 has been enough to get you whatever defined "plenty of space" for a desktop at that time since forever.
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I presume 16 $/Tb is still the metric. Speaking of I need to go get some spares for my NAS.
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History Comes Inside! posted:When I lived in a shared house full of nerds we built a windows home server box and used its weird Drive Extender feature to pool a bunch of spare hard drives for a monster 2.5tb of Linux ISO storage, a silly amount of space that existed just because we could. I did this for years, and it kinda ruled. When I bought a 360 I was amazed that it just found my server and allowed me to stream music from it over whatever game I was playing. Videos worked too, assuming they were in WMV (which, lol, no). I eventually built another Windows box and used a program called, ironically, Drive Extender, to do the same thing since MS abandoned WHS. Last year I bought a Synology and I don't know why I waited so long*. Having an extra 30TB and 2 bays to spare feels great.  *it was money
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Warbird posted:I presume 16 $/Tb is still the metric. Speaking of I need to go get some spares for my NAS. If you get on sale it’s less. That $250 for a 18 I grabbed a bunch of drives for puts it at $13.80.
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Hughlander posted:lol 'high'. I've had an adage for building new computers for literally the past 25 years. "At any point in the time the cost of a 'good sized' hard drive will be $250." I formed it when I brought a 2 gigabyte "BigFoot" in 1998 and spent $250 on it. Shucks.top tells me that $250 could get me an 18TB Easy store at the right time. So 25 years later, that's 13 doublings in size for the exact same dollar amount. Now look at the price of a new house in 1998 vs 2023 for what inflation has done. Yeah I agree in that regard, to the average user storage is cheap enough to be basically negligible at this point. But I mean it in terms of bandwidth for data hoarders I suppose. Back when I got my first 1 TB hard drive I was on 8mbs, it would have taken over 12 days of constant downloading to fill the drive. Now to fill that 16TB hard drive on a gigabit it's under 2 days.
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Tea Bone posted:Yeah I agree in that regard, to the average user storage is cheap enough to be basically negligible at this point. I think we're getting close to a plateau in speed though, and your use is a bit different. I'll tell you mine. 10 years ago when I got my first array of 4 TB drives it had 20TB usable and 1GB Ethernet. Earlier this year I replaced them with the same number of 18TB drives for 90TB usable, and I had 1GB Ethernet. So in my perspective the storage is eclipsing the transfer at a 4.5X to 1 ratio. My ISP says I can do 2GB up to 5GB but it's linear cost over the 1GB I'm currently getting, and while my core network is 10GB (NAS, Docker box, development windows machine all on a 10GB network), the edge is still all 1GB including to the demarc in the garage.
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I love having gigabit downstream but I could easily survive on less, going fiber and getting away from max 20mbit cable upstream was way more important. And data caps.
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I could get gigabit but all my Linux ISOs are from other timezones so they download overnight when I’m asleep anyway, and I’d have to pay double what I’m paying for a perfectly cromulent 160mbit fibre connection for the privilege.
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Synchronous gigabit upload owns. Sorry about your hilariously lopsided speeds. I'd like my next array to be SSD but it seems like a bad idea since all the drives will fail at about exactly the same time, unless if you purposefully wear down a sacrificial one.
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Looks like both Drunkenslug and Ninja Central have registration open if anyone needs a new indexer. I got Ninja Central a few months ago and it works great. I have had Drunkenslug for a few years and it works great as well.
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Thanks, I didn't know about/have ninja central.
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Yeah, I added Ninja Central. I also noticed a certain big movie tracker is back up!
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Looks like ninja deletes users for non activity, as I went from not knowing it, to realizing I had a login there, to the login failing in the space of about 30 seconds.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Looks like ninja deletes users for non activity, as I went from not knowing it, to realizing I had a login there, to the login failing in the space of about 30 seconds. What is activity? API hits or are the doing the IPTorrents thing where they want you to log into the web site? (yeah, I really want to participate in the comment section of a torrent site)
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If you don't hit the API every 14 days your account is deactivated. It's stupid as gently caress.
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That sure is. I get not wanting to have a bunch of abandoned accounts in your user list, but 14 days?
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Yep. I emailed them to have my account reactivated, which they did, but it has since been deactivated again.
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Would setting up rss in the *arrs work to avoid that?
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Is there an idiots guide to the RSS thing? I think currently my *arrs are just set up with the things I want in and they do searches through the API a few times a day.
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Thanks Ants posted:Is there an idiots guide to the RSS thing? I think currently my *arrs are just set up with the things I want in and they do searches through the API a few times a day. Indexer has to support it and the *arrs will check the feed continuously for targeted releases to grab instead of doing the automatic searches. Works pretty well with torrents I bet.
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Tremors posted:Would setting up rss in the *arrs work to avoid that?  Your mother specifically asked for it there!
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Silly Burrito posted:
Lmao
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Thanks Ants posted:Is there an idiots guide to the RSS thing? I think currently my *arrs are just set up with the things I want in and they do searches through the API a few times a day. https://trash-guides.info/ has a bunch of poo poo. There's even another arr that just goes through and applies everything in it to your arrs
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Yo dog we heard you like arrs so we made an arr that just puts its arrs in your other arrs 
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Tremors posted:Would setting up rss in the *arrs work to avoid that? The easiest way would probably be to add a curl command to cron.
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You have to actually login to the website at NinjaCentral every ~14 days with a free account to not get disabled. It's very much a means of pushing people to pay for VIP, as VIPs don't have the inactivity timer.
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Nullset posted:You have to actually login to the website at NinjaCentral every ~14 days with a free account to not get disabled. It's very much a means of pushing people to pay for VIP, as VIPs don't have the inactivity timer. How are they as an indexer? The lowest paid tier is 1000 API calls and 100 downloads a day for 12 euro a year, if they're in the same neighborhood of usefulness as something like Geek that's not a bad deal.
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Nullset posted:You have to actually login to the website at NinjaCentral every ~14 days with a free account to not get disabled. It's very much a means of pushing people to pay for VIP, as VIPs don't have the inactivity timer. Oh good. I chucked them 12 euro so I can give them a fair try. Takes No Damage posted:How are they as an indexer? The lowest paid tier is 1000 API calls and 100 downloads a day for 12 euro a year, if they're in the same neighborhood of usefulness as something like Geek that's not a bad deal. I have them set as second priority so in a week or so I'll check and see what kind of success I'm having with them.
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Here is my usage with Ninja having it for a couple of months. Geek is my number one used indexer by far. But Slug and Ninja are pretty much tied for second in terms of successful grabs. 
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Assuming they're all paid accounts and you aren't limited by API calls/grabs, is there any reason why you'd have certain indexers prioritized over others? I can understand why you'd want to prioritize Usenet servers, but are certain indexers more prone to having fakes submitted or something?
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Quixzlizx posted:Assuming they're all paid accounts and you aren't limited by API calls/grabs, is there any reason why you'd have certain indexers prioritized over others? I can understand why you'd want to prioritize Usenet servers, but are certain indexers more prone to having fakes submitted or something? I get way fewer failures from Geek than from Slug and especially NZB.su.
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