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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

the_steve posted:

Kellies Nomination: Worst Concern Trolling. McCoys don't give a gently caress about poor people. If it were Trump or any other red-tie signing the check, he'd be drawing cartoons about triggered fat libs being upset about it.

Also, the sudden concern with our tax dollars going to military contractors instead of feeding the poor.

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Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Observer:

"Rishi Sunak the helicopter – The prime minister pays a flying visit to Conservative conference"

Sunday Telegraph:

Sunak: 20mph zones can still be introduced by councils under motorists plan

Matt:


Sunday Times:


Mail on Sunday:

Europe WIN the Ryder Cup as Rory McIlroy and Jon Rahm lead Luke Donald's side to victory while the USA fall short of producing a sensational comeback in Rome

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Clay Bennett

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Nick Anderson



Keith Knight



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Ruben Bolling

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

the_steve posted:

Kellies Nomination: Worst Concern Trolling. McCoys don't give a gently caress about poor people. If it were Trump or any other red-tie signing the check, he'd be drawing cartoons about triggered fat libs being upset about it.

His next cartoon is even blowing off the consequences of Republicans shutting down the government to extract social welfare cuts


Can't keep up the pretense of caring about the poor for one day

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
It's a beautiful day today! Time to ruin it with a





Wait! That might be sarcasm! He doesn't think it would be a shame at all!



"If a foreign child tells you they're fleeing a war-torn country, they're lying." - A man named Tatsuya Ishida



"Glomp" is a word meaning "to hug enthusiastically", but hugging is... not actually what face-huggers do? And again I guess we see the nasty-looking alien is relatively harmless since she can clearly take it off whenever she wants to.



Forget about all that, though, we're starting a random new plotline in the middle of the week that has nothing to do with any of what just happened!



If I remember my Sinfest Lore properly, that's basically the pig, yeah. He's not a pig by accident. At least Ishida being weirdly fixated on porn-hating is still consistent; his one rock-hard, throbbing touchpoint throughout all these years.



"Porn is not something men like", just the weirdest loving take.



I'm pretty sure nobody from 4chan has ever seen the inside of a gym, Ishida.


Pettyfest





(If you don't get this one, watch Mars Attacks sometime.)





This one is called "Consistency".







Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Technowolf posted:


Ruben Bolling



I missed these and the ad joke got me :allears:

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


idonotlikepeas posted:


"Porn is not something men like", just the weirdest loving take.

Also what doe he have against Alfred E. Neuman? Tats picks the weirdest fights.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

By popular demand posted:

Also what doe he have against Alfred E. Neuman? Tats picks the weirdest fights.
Pete Buttigieg is gay. That's the joke.

I also like how every path to chad is something that you purchase, whether it's the juice of the gym membership. In his world it's as much a part of the market as all the things Tats hates.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


As socialists said for well over a century "anti-Semitism is socialism for people who don't think"

Yes Tats, it is troubling how capitalism keep repackaging impossible life goals and their supposed shortcuts. It got nothing to do with debunked concerns about soy.

Also I was completely unaware of the Buttigieg thing.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

It's also a reference to one time Trump said Buttigieg looks like Alfred P Neumann.



So the pig character was unhappy with his body and used pharmaceuticals to get the gender-affirming results he wanted and it instantly made his life way better???

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 1, 2023

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


From any other cartoonist I'd take it to be a warning about the future of bioethics.
Absolutely nobody here doubts that the pharmaceutical companies would be salivating at the prospect of selling us Hulk pills.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

idonotlikepeas posted:



If I remember my Sinfest Lore properly, that's basically the pig, yeah. He's not a pig by accident. At least Ishida being weirdly fixated on porn-hating is still consistent; his one rock-hard, throbbing touchpoint throughout all these years.

Also he loves porn! Why are you contrasting your porn-addicted strawmen enemies with the extremely sexist porn-addict?? He loves porn too!
I dunno where this hate for "tentacles" of all things came from but man Ishida is really obsessed with "degenerates". Probably nothing!

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Vib Rib posted:

Also he loves porn! Why are you contrasting your porn-addicted strawmen enemies with the extremely sexist porn-addict?? He loves porn too!
I dunno where this hate for "tentacles" of all things came from but man Ishida is really obsessed with "degenerates". Probably nothing!

the twisted up incel crowd has this thing where they get into weird porn but then loving hate themselves for it

fairly straight line from there to finding someone else to blame for their own actions

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

VitalSigns posted:

It's also a referencr to one time Trump said Buttigieg looks like Alfred P Neumann.

So the pig character was unhappy with his body and used pharmaceuticals to get the gender-affirming results he wanted and it instantly made his life way better???

Also you can either drink the chemical solution and it'll instantly last most of a day (currently, surely they're working on a longer lasting formula), or go to the gym and spend months/years on a strict regimen that may or may not sculpt you to the way you want to look.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


The plot point is “Being far right makes you a manly man unlike the soy left wing”. This entire week has been pure strain pandering to the Nazis to tell them how wonderful and strong and attractive they are to try and court an audience cause despite Tats screaming their talking points he isn’t getting on the right wing welfare train like the Stonetoss guy

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Rowe:


Knight:

On Friday there was an AFL Grand Final parade in Melbourne before Saturday's game.

Herbert:


Leak, Son of Leak:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Vib Rib posted:

Also he loves porn! Why are you contrasting your porn-addicted strawmen enemies with the extremely sexist porn-addict?? He loves porn too!


If there's one thing I've picked up from all the explainers and retrospectives in this thread, it's that despite the wild swerves in politics and values, one constant overt theme in Sinfest is the author's various attempts to deal with the guilt and shame over his lifelong porn addiction.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

VitalSigns posted:

If there's one thing I've picked up from all the explainers and retrospectives in this thread, it's that despite the wild swerves in politics and values, one constant overt theme in Sinfest is the author's various attempts to deal with the guilt and shame over his lifelong porn addiction.

I'm still of the belief that he made the TERF swerve because someone he was attracted to transitioned and he decided he feels robbed somehow.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
I find it funny that Tats is clearly on a toxic masculinity bender, complaining about soy beta males and how men aren't real men anymore and what have you, when his comic from 2011 through 2019 was all about grrrl power and dismantling the patriarchy with all of the finesse of a well-meaning college freshman who only skimmed the textbook for his Gender Studies 101 class. I know his ideological-180 is well-documented, but I still marvel at someone who was unironically saying "I'm not here to talk about history, I'm here to talk about herstory" 5 years ago telling you that if you don't lift weights, you're a beta cuck.

Also, as a regular porn consumer, there's nothing I love more than to get a buddy, go down to the park, and loudly shout our search terms while looking it up on our phones, our faces rapt with glee. So he's got us there I guess

Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?
What I find most bizarre about Tatsuya is his work ethic.

To go so insane but to update continuously without ever lapsing on effort in his art for 20+ years is an amusing and well deserved curse. You'd think he could sit down and tell a few stories that aren't screaming at internet clouds. He has this steady drive but he can only use it to piss into the 4chan ocean. He gets the occasional artist note in professional comics page, one I could google and one I saw in this thread, maybe he has a pen name, but it seems more his style to "preach truth" and die in a box apartment on the $200 a month he has on subscribe star. Maybe he banked and invested some cash back when Sinfest was popular enough to sell collected volumes.

Tragic, but also pretty funny.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
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Matt Davies




Drew Sheneman

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




idonotlikepeas posted:



I'm pretty sure nobody from 4chan has ever seen the inside of a gym, Ishida.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFrPz1WkBvk

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Doomykins posted:

What I find most bizarre about Tatsuya is his work ethic.

To go so insane but to update continuously without ever lapsing on effort in his art for 20+ years is an amusing and well deserved curse. You'd think he could sit down and tell a few stories that aren't screaming at internet clouds. He has this steady drive but he can only use it to piss into the 4chan ocean. He gets the occasional artist note in professional comics page, one I could google and one I saw in this thread, maybe he has a pen name, but it seems more his style to "preach truth" and die in a box apartment on the $200 a month he has on subscribe star. Maybe he banked and invested some cash back when Sinfest was popular enough to sell collected volumes.

Tragic, but also pretty funny.

It floors me that back in 2014-2015 Tatsuya was the most patriarchy-hating, hail-to-the-girlbosses artist imaginable, as if every bawdy/sexist joke he ever drew back in the 2000s was a stinging dagger in his soul and he had to make up for it. and now he's one sneeze away from embracing full tradcath reactionarism, in which women are too precious NOT to be made into dress-wearing barefoot pregnant matrons.

Then again, some people just jump between obsessions and lean in with escalating intensity with each flip. I had a friend that went from hardcore straight-edge to razor's edge druggie, then when Obama won he went super progressive and wanted to run for office and help bring about the world revolution, only to of course go full fascist Bolsonarista (the brazilian MAGA), and along the journey he lost pretty much every last friend.

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

Saying that he is a sneeze away from embracing tradcath reactionarism is being far too generous to the fascist little poo poo.

As for his message, I've always said it has never changed: "you ladies are too dumb to Woman correctly, so allow me, an Enlightened Male, to show you." The only thing that's changed is his definition of "Womaning correctly."

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


idonotlikepeas posted:




"If a foreign child tells you they're fleeing a war-torn country, they're lying." - A man named Tatsuya Ishida


This one is kind of fascinating because it's basically admitting it's immoral to turn away an orphan who's been driven out of their home, which is a a real situation many immigrant children are in, and the only way to deal with that mentally and still be against immigration is to say "it's fake" and somehow force yourself to believe every crying child is an actor sent by a secret organization to trick you specifically.

An elaborate conspiracy theory to avoid facing the reality of one's own cruelty and callousness.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

And even if it were 100% true that refugees aren't real and adults are trafficking kids in and making them lie, hating the child for it would still make you an rear end in a top hat

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
it's a comic where the action is a metaphor for what is literally happening:L
the evil creatures that control humanity behind masks are hiding behind a child mask to disguise their evil...as symbolized by the evil creatures that control humanity behind masks hiding behind a child mask to disguise their evil.
also you know this is what he thins is literally happening: the media and the cartels are hiding behind children to infiltrate the country. therefore it is a metaphor for both what's literally happening in the comic and what the author literally thinks is happening in the real world

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!


Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

MechaCrash posted:

As for his message, I've always said it has never changed: "you ladies are too dumb to Woman correctly, so allow me, an Enlightened Male, to show you." The only thing that's changed is his definition of "Womaning correctly."

My own personal pet theory is that he got into "feminism" in order to get laid, and this current right-wing freakout is him not being able to reconcile the fact that it didn't work, so he blames Big Trans. He said the magic words that should make every woman fall in love with him! BUT NOWADAYS, WHAT IS A WOMAN?!?!?

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

It's especially "funny" because he made fun of that exact mindset with Slick doing the "I said the magic words, where's my cookie" thing.

But the dude is a full on Nazi now, so ideological consistency doesn't really matter.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Rall: Believe Me, Not Your Lying Real Estate Eyes

Quote same as in cartoon.

First Dog on the Moon: Young people! It's not their job to save the world but they are suing Europe anyway

Skios
Oct 1, 2021
New narrative just dropped: Democrats are only going after Menedez to distract from the Biden Crime Family.

A.F. Branco





Al Goodwyn



Bob Gorrell



Chip Bok



Gary Varvel



Marshall Ramsey



Looks like it's time for another round of 'Is using a meme template for your cartoon plagiarism Y/N?' already.

Michael Ramirez



Steve Breen



Steve Kelley



Tom Stiglich



the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

My own personal pet theory is that he got into "feminism" in order to get laid, and this current right-wing freakout is him not being able to reconcile the fact that it didn't work, so he blames Big Trans. He said the magic words that should make every woman fall in love with him! BUT NOWADAYS, WHAT IS A WOMAN?!?!?

I agree.
He drew all those comics crowning himself the King of Feminism, and the fact that he wasn't rewarded with sex crack-pinged him and he started looking for reasons to blame women for being too dumb to realize what a Nice Guy he was.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Attention! Women are not objects!

I said, women aren't just things, they're people!

*taps woman's head* Is this thing on?

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

Skios posted:

Al Goodwyn



Hey Al, could you name a single American city that actually defunded the police, thus legalizing all crime? I can wait.

the_steve posted:

I agree.
He drew all those comics crowning himself the King of Feminism, and the fact that he wasn't rewarded with sex crack-pinged him and he started looking for reasons to blame women for being too dumb to realize what a Nice Guy he was.

I mean it's the simplest explanation, but the more I see nofap and incel talking points creep into the comic, he more and more fits the profile of someone basing his entire life around being angry that he doesn't gently caress. Embracing those ideologies often goes hand-in-hand with reactionary tantrums. Sinfest is just what happens when someone with some amount of artistic skill goes through this process in their 40's.

People point to his brief TERF phase before he went full-on MAGA as some sort of pivot point that truly radicalized him, but I don't think that's the case. He just decided to go full Redpill in 2019, when conservatives seemingly all got together and decided that, suddenly, trans people were the number one threat to America. He just hitched his wagon to that.

Anyway that's enough armchair psychology about a washed-up webcomic author for a Monday morning I think

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Brawnfire posted:

Attention! Women are not objects!

I said, women aren't just things, they're people!

*taps woman's head* Is this thing on?

This but somehow worse, he's the sort of man who'd choose to live in a sealed bunker with nothing but dumb sexbots for company and even as the loneliness finally gets to him and he puts a gun to his head will not admit he might have been wrong in some way.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I recently found myself comparing Ishida to Dave Sim in that they both went insane in a way that completely trashes their ability to communicate with normal people, but they still have art skills they picked up before going off the deep end, which means that their work is competent on a technical level in a way that most monster raving loonies can't achieve.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Oh Dave Sim, haven't checked up on him in years. I wonder if he got any better.
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:gonk: NOPE

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

By popular demand posted:

This but somehow worse, he's the sort of man who'd choose to live in a sealed bunker with nothing but dumb sexbots for company and even as the loneliness finally gets to him and he puts a gun to his head will not admit he might have been wrong in some way.

He isn't even allowed to have the sexbots, he already made it clear that machines designed for the express purpose of sex are actually the same as exploited sex workers being coerced into prostitution.

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ishida’s art has not really evolved in over a decade, and has a lot of embarrassing errors like extra limbs where it’s clear he’s copy/pasting things like arms which is something he was known for not doing in the past (he drew each panel by hand no matter how similar they were).

His art looks fine but he’s stagnant which is why he can only draw basically three body types for each gender.

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