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Cutedge posted:but honestly I think a lot of people went to play it and didn't like flying a spaceship in first person. A bunch of people played and still play Tie Fighter and X-Wing: Alliance so I'm not sure that's the problem. More that it was just the same couple of fights over and over.
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"Wait, the moon doesn't have an atmosphere? " -Todd Howard
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 12:34 |
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feedmegin posted:A bunch of people played and still play Tie Fighter and X-Wing: Alliance so I'm not sure that's the problem. More that it was just the same couple of fights over and over. Tend to agree. I had it for free and I think I stopped after one mission and a few gos in the multiplayer. Just tedious.
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 13:56 |
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Star Wars: Squadrons flying the A-wing in MP in VR with a stick and throttle was so loving amazing. I might have to dig it out again and see whether it's still alive at all.
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 14:11 |
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Nipplejets 2023!
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 14:15 |
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Odd memory of Wing commander was if you went on a mission and burned in a random direction for a long time you would eventually find a fence that said something along the lines of edge of the galaxy.
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 15:30 |
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bres0048 posted:Odd memory of Wing commander was if you went on a mission and burned in a random direction for a long time you would eventually find a fence that said something along the lines of edge of the galaxy. Are you sure that was wing commander? Never saw it and it’s the first time I hear about it.
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 16:00 |
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jarlywarly posted:Star Wars: Squadrons flying the A-wing in MP in VR with a stick and throttle was so loving amazing. Steamcharts says it has generally 100-200 players online at any given point. Squadrons not getting more multiplayer types or having a conquest map a la Helldivers or even a general "empire's point value vs rebel's point values" system is a major let down. Having an overarching meta would have given it a little more sticking power I think. It definitely could have been better. I just still think that this genre, which I do really love, is ultimately niche enough to scoff at PC's claim that microsoft would gladly pay hundreds of millions of dollars to get not even Star Citizen proper but Arena Commander is laughable. Cutedge fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Oct 2, 2023 |
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I think the problem with the genre is that it seems every developer thinks a space game has to be some huge everything sandbox game that is walking, flying, station interiors, ship interiors, new planets, aliens, etc. While one day I believe The Dream space game will come true, they seem to ignore that a space game can sometimes just be a space game. A space shooter, if you will. Squadrons was a great example of having a decent narrative experience with the customization you expect from a “shooter” without trying to make it so massive. In fact, its only real negative is really that multiplayer is so limited and gets stale pretty quickly. If they would have released DLC campaigns or expanded MP or made it so you could make your own battles like you could in XWA and XvTIE, it would still be sufficiently “alive” today. Well, maybe also because it is based in the sequel timeline, but only in a minor way. The game was just a passion project anyway. You can tell. And it was lucky to get a green light. Game is awesome, otherwise. Imagine if you could have had a version of DCS or IL-2 or whatever (I am talking customization, map making, campaign building) in Star Wars. Would be absolute tits. dialhforhero fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 2, 2023 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Turns out the real Star Citizen was the friends we made along the way
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 22:49 |
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dialhforhero posted:I think the problem with the genre is that it seems every developer thinks a space game has to be some huge everything sandbox game that is walking, flying, station interiors, ship interiors, new planets, aliens, etc. It’s true, all of it
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 22:53 |
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dialhforhero posted:
You can have that my dude. Just mod the tie fighters in and make your own star wars campaign. The fact that, apparently, this hasn't happened means that it probably won't be tits.
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 23:30 |
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Don’t literally mean DCS or IL-2, I mean something like how you can build really neat and detailed missions in DCS and you can make cool dynamic campaigns in IL-2. The fidelity of the mission creators are impressive. MODDING DCS to make it a space game would be a nightmare, on top of the incredible amount of time just spent on art/modeling.
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# ? Oct 2, 2023 23:35 |
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sound https://i.imgur.com/hOd3h7K.mp4
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# ? Oct 3, 2023 03:25 |
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This is like the worst possible cat household. Lots of jumpable surfaces all full of clutter. Worst for the human. Fun for the cat.
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# ? Oct 3, 2023 06:20 |
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I think the general mistake that a lot of people make is that "Space" is not a genre. It's just a setting, and a pretty bland setting at that. Setting out to make a space game is a terrible idea. Shockingly, space is mostly empty nothingness and it doesn't add much to a game to fly around in it endlessly. If it did we would have already had a lot of games where you sail across the ocean in realtime while nothing much happens. You've got to actually do something with the setting like Homeworld with the 3d fleet battles or whatever it is about Eve that makes people want to play it.
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# ? Oct 3, 2023 14:46 |
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Fidelitious posted:whatever it is about Eve that makes people want to play it. Tbh psychopathy plays a part
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# ? Oct 3, 2023 20:57 |
So apparently they released a Tank Royale mode, where players fight it out in the handful of tanks in game. There is apparently a bug where the tanks drive like they are on ice and a player figured out if you ram into a rock hard enough it fixes the bug and the tanks drive normally. I genuinely don't think CIG has paid testers.
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Popete posted:So apparently they released a Tank Royale mode, where players fight it out in the handful of tanks in game. There is apparently a bug where the tanks drive like they are on ice and a player figured out if you ram into a rock hard enough it fixes the bug and the tanks drive normally. space game
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# ? Oct 3, 2023 21:32 |
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Popete posted:I genuinely don't think CIG has I'm pretty sure they think that's what the
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# ? Oct 3, 2023 22:06 |
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Fidelitious posted:or whatever it is about Eve that makes people want to play it. Aren't most citizens humongous carebears that are terrified of player pirates even thinking of blowing their Idrises (Idriii?) up?
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 01:03 |
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Popete posted:So apparently they released a Tank Royale mode, where players fight it out in the handful of tanks in game. There is apparently a bug where the tanks drive like they are on ice and a player figured out if you ram into a rock hard enough it fixes the bug and the tanks drive normally. One of the weirdest things I ever saw was the guy that made a rock music video of his in-game tank shooting at nothing.
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 01:30 |
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Lammasu posted:One of the weirdest things I ever saw was the guy that made a rock music video of his in-game tank shooting at nothing. That was a fun one. The dramatic shots of a tank just firing shells (do year 3000 tanks still shoot shells?) at the horizon. Maybe it was an art piece.
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 13:51 |
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Does anybody have the link?
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 16:43 |
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AndreTheGiantBoned posted:Does anybody have the link? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen/play-now
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 17:17 |
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Popete posted:I genuinely don't think CIG has paid testers. Well they have people who paid to be (ab)used as testers. It's a gaming variant of FinDom.
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 17:37 |
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Popete posted:So apparently they released a Tank Royale mode, where players fight it out in the handful of tanks in game. There is apparently a bug where the tanks drive like they are on ice and a player figured out if you ram into a rock hard enough it fixes the bug and the tanks drive normally. They have paid testers. They paid now they are testing.
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quote:
quote:Wrote so much, just to say nothing at all in the end. CIG should hire you for their marketing department.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 16:00 |
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Wait, you mean he's not employed by CIG's marketing department??
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 16:14 |
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Finally, he admitted it.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 16:29 |
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I like how he's going on and on about how if you do a few things in s42 it will change things in SC and how unimaginable difficult this is. lol, they've been plenty of games with single player and mutiplayer where you can get some reward in one and it carries on to another, and there are plenty of games who have let you take your charcter from the first game and play them in the sequel. Like this isn't some huge never before done achievement. Completed a flying missions in s42, okay lets just set that completed_s42_fly1 value to true and add an random NPC bark "oh wow heard your a great pilot!" and done! Like if it's included at all I doubt the reactivity would be more than that. Like if done well -a big if- that sort of stuff can be very reward but it's not like this is some crazy never done before thing that requires completely re-engineering everything currently done in gaming.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 17:52 |
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Didn't Chris just write a novella about how their database sucks? I have a feeling that they won't be able to migrate data from SQ42 to SC lol but maybe they'll surprise us all who knows
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:07 |
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dr_rat posted:I like how he's going on and on about how if you do a few things in s42 it will change things in SC and how unimaginable difficult this is. You idiot The AI janitor will recognize you across the hall and ask for your autograph And then retell your great victory story. Including specific dates and times It won’t be some canned speech you absolute buffoon
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 20:39 |
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Well, it took me over four hours, on and off, but I finally forced all of that indigestible slab of nonsense past my mind-gullet and, after all, I have to say it was easier to follow than most of his novels - perhaps because it's a bit more focused. However, even I, as a SC neophyte, can note that it's not just every sentence that contains something egregiously specious, but every clause too. An SC scholar could take it apart from beginning to end and throw it out: nope; wrong; wronger; not proven; impossible; not seen any evidence of this assertion; obvious fabrication, basically insulting to the intelligence that anyone is supposed to believe this utter tripe; nooooooooope; irrelevant; literally impossible; this bit will never work and be abandoned, if it's even real (clue: it isn't); written lore is fake depth; this bit has already been abandoned; noooooooooooooooooope; this doesn't matter in any way; who cares; that's basically the least they could do and they will fail at that too; this will collapse in chaos on day one. What does he get out of this? I mean, I know I'm wasting my time (that's the point), but I get some entertainment from the and the and the . Also, someone disbelieving you, since you present no evidence anyway, is not a Catch-22.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 21:03 |
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Is pisscat just an elaborate troll? I feel like I've been had. It's like he's gone too far and the illusion of him actually believing this has been broken. Unless he really does in which case
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 00:59 |
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He has been at it far longer than consumer AI text-padding tools. If he's a troll, he's at least an honest one.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 01:12 |
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Cutedge posted:Is pisscat just an elaborate troll? I feel like I've been had. It's like he's gone too far and the illusion of him actually believing this has been broken. I think he believes a lot of it (because if this whole debacle has demonstrated anything, it's that there are some really, really intense delusions among Star Citizen fans), but there's always a little nagging part of my brain that wants to believe that anyone capable of even barely functioning in society can't believe all of that nonsense, and that there's some desperate corner of his mind that thinks if he can sell the scam even harder than CIG does ("Microsoft would love to buy Arena Commander," lol), then more people will throw money at Star Citizen and someday it will be finished and good and he won't have been so very, very wrong about believing in it. Because the one thing I genuinely believe he is absolutely consciously lying about is that he's just happy to have been able to help fund such an ambitious "research project" indefinitely, even if it results in abject failure and no games being produced. He's claimed that many, many times, and it's always bracketed with the craziest "facts" about how awesome Star Citizen will be/is/has always been, and it never sounds even remotely sincere. This dude needs CIG's day of reckoning to be postponed indefinitely even more than Chris does.
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 01:16 |
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Derek Smart was right. Two weeks until fake flaming sandworm of pyro demo that spurs 50 million dollars in FUDster funding. Will Gary Oldman have a forth remodel?
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 05:31 |
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Cutedge posted:Is pisscat just an elaborate troll? I feel like I've been had. It's like he's gone too far and the illusion of him actually believing this has been broken. In retrospect, his rhetoric is indistinguishable from the meme stock dead-enders on reddit who still earnestly believe that their cancelled BBBYQ shares are going to make them millionaires. I'm surprised we haven't seen more people like him in the community honestly, but I guess it has been a decade.
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I skimmed over it because no one should read that whole thing. It's kind of like the heydays of QAnon where (insane) people were dissecting everything any public figure said to find the secret hidden messages in their speeches or whatever. We all ask ourselves "Why did they do X?" or "What possible reason is there for Y?" The difference is that he answers by imagining extremely complex scenarios where everything is done for a genius reason and that it's all implicitly leading to some amazing features and tech. Whereas we answer by pointing out the obvious, that it's because Chris Roberts is a gigantic micro-managing moron who has little idea what he's doing except for grifting money so that he can continue the grand tradition of cinematics-driven 90s games with the opportunity to direct film-adjacent things.
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