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Twenty Four posted:Also i don't know how to break images down, but if anyone has the panel of White Chain kicking the head off a statue from KSBD from the other month or so, I'm getting that vibe here lol There's been a distinct increase in the amount of god-punting in webcomics lately and I'm all for it. This page rules.
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cant cook creole bream posted:So does anyone have an alternate solution to that riddle? I think it's probably not a riddle that was made with an answer in mind. "A lie" sounds about as close to me as "a knee" but I can't think of anything that fits all the criteria to a satisfying degree. I was actually talking to some people about nonsense riddles and "Why is a raven like a writing desk?" came up. It's a riddle Lewis Carroll didn't write with an answer, but a lot of people have poured time into a lot of creative solutions to it. I don't know if this works as well because it's more complicated and demands a more specific answer. Riddles are hard to write. Anyway, the gopher punt is funny. We didn't really need affirmation that this is a surreal place of nonsense rules re-established again, but the comic could use more gopher punting, I think.
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I've always been terrible at riddles and the Professor Layton games. So I'm going to agree this riddle doesn't have an answer.
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lmao she just immediately figures out what's going on even though it has to do with Weird Tech poo poo, something she notably has difficulty with as recently of a few chapters ago with something as simple as "typing on a keyboard", and is extremely calm and emotionless about it. I don't know, none of this is hitting for me. Maybe because it's just been literal years of Annie being unable to do much except have the plot happen to her, and now after Kat said "you can do it" once she's magically doing everything effortlessly and emotionlessly in such a tidy manner that it feels like I'm witnessing the author boredly checking off ticks on a "THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN" list in realtime. I'm afraid to say this lest I get roasted for "you were complaining nothing is happening, now you were complaining things ARE happening?? that annie has TOO much agency???", but the core underlying problem of "these don't feel like the characters I grew to love for years and it feels like the author has lost interest in his own comic" remains. I don't know who Annie is anymore. I don't recognize the character on screen - I haven't for a long time, due to the countless things that have been done to alienate me from her. As such, it doesn't feel like the natural culmination of the lessons she's learned and skills she's obtained, which I assume is what was penciled in on the threadbare plot outline for this section. Instead of "Annie is a person I'm witnessing the journey of" like the first 60% of the comic, she became an opaque caricature at some point. She was suddenly incompetent because the author said so, and now... she's hit the point where she's suddenly competent because the author said so. I just... do not care what happens to these people. It all feels like limp fanfiction where familiar characters drift from thinly-sketched plot point to plot point with no thought given to their internal experience. I don't mind characters being competent or using their skills to work through things - easily and with little friction, even! The Torn Sea is one of my favorites even though I've seen it oft-criticized. But when I compare that chapter to this one, there is just something fundamentally missing here, like "the characters having any soul at all". Maybe Annie will kick some more poo poo and I'll feel better, I dunno. I'd like to see her thought processes literally at all. Any doubt or trepidation about being in a hostile hellscape created by incredibly powerful and unpredictable reality-warping powers. Something relatable. Anything.
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Tiny Myers posted:lmao she just immediately figures out what's going on even though it has to do with Weird Tech poo poo, something she notably has difficulty with as recently of a few chapters ago with something as simple as "typing on a keyboard", and is extremely calm and emotionless about it. Annie's internal emotional landscape reads as fake because of the narrative belittling and retroactively negating all her suffering and turmoil and presenting her as having improved in all ways just by having her forgive her lovely dad. So by extension all her actions read as fake. All her character development got nowhere. This isn't the same character we were following. You could say the same of literally everyone here, but it's more prominent with Annie as the protagonist the comic started with.
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Tiny Myers posted:lmao she just immediately figures out what's going on even though it has to do with Weird Tech poo poo, something she notably has difficulty with as recently of a few chapters ago with something as simple as "typing on a keyboard", and is extremely calm and emotionless about it. the disconnect is because the actual exposition being given by kat reads as total nonsense and technobabble, while annie, who has consistently been characterized as someone baffled by even intermediate tech, simply goes "thanks got it kat"
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A big flaming stink posted:the disconnect is because the actual exposition being given by kat reads as total nonsense and technobabble, while annie, who has consistently been characterized as someone baffled by even intermediate tech, simply goes "thanks got it kat" She built a robot from spare parts in the very first chapter despite never having done it before. And she's shown to actually excel in subjects she cares about (which I think was biology admittedly?). So I don't think she has been consistently portrayed as far as her interests/abilities in science. Yeah Kat stumps her but Kat stumps everyone, that's what she does as a literal god of the machines. Also all we get at the end of the explanation is a "thanks, kat" with Annie staring off the page. I think theres a few ways you could read that, especially if you read the comma as an awkward pause. Though it doesn't really matter either way I think. The purpose of this page is likely to just crudely infodump some worldbuilding to the reader. Whether Annie understands or not is probably irrelevant, knowing this comic.
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JuniperCake posted:She built a robot from spare parts in the very first chapter despite never having done it before. And she's shown to actually excel in subjects she cares about (which I think was biology admittedly?). So I don't think she has been consistently portrayed as far as her interests/abilities in science. Yeah Kat stumps her but Kat stumps everyone, that's what she does as a literal god of the machines. Annie has been shown to struggle with tech specifically when it comes up. Kat straight up mentions the robot example you mentioned in one chapter and Annie says "nah I don't know what the gently caress". https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=419
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No no no, the problem isn't Annie shouldn't understand, it's that they already had a conversation about this off-screen. Just the same old problem.
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Tiny Myers posted:Annie has been shown to struggle with tech specifically when it comes up. Kat straight up mentions the robot example you mentioned in one chapter and Annie says "nah I don't know what the gently caress". https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=8
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Splicer posted:It's not even a retcon, in the original she explicitly just yoinks a box of parts of an existing robot and lego bricks them together: Oh look Shadow. When was the last time they were in the comic?
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A big flaming stink posted:the disconnect is because the actual exposition being given by kat reads as total nonsense and technobabble, while annie, who has consistently been characterized as someone baffled by even intermediate tech, simply goes "thanks got it kat" Brightman posted:No no no, the problem isn't Annie shouldn't understand, it's that they already had a conversation about this off-screen. Just the same old problem. Are you talking about the court's space compression stuff? Because they showed that in the comic. They spent half a chapter in Kats space-compressed factory. Annie has first-hand experience with compressed space. This isn't something they talked about offscreen or that is technobabble nonsense (well, okay, it is), but something we've seen, with our own eyes. It was the chapter where Kat's head asploded, and Paz decoded she had enough of this poo poo and peace'd out. The explanation is they're in a Court pocket dimension like Kat's factory, which are already kind of screwy space-wise, combined with Zimmy and Coyote's reality warping. Hate the comic, but be honest with your hate.
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None of this bothers me, at least from the outside. Annie's eyes probably just glazed over and she tuned out the technical part, but she got the general idea of what's going on confirmed, and that was good enough for her. Reminds me of my dad who has mild to medium but getting worse dementia and asks me the same questions for the who-knows-how-many-ith time, and you can tell the in-depth explanations he asks for that I give him sometimes are barely sinking in if at all. But at some point, for example while watching a baseball game with him, hopefully eventually he is satisfied with me telling him "I'm not sure how else to explain what an ERA is, but that guy has really good numbers, he's a good pitcher, okay?" after he asks about it, and then probably do all that again in a few days. In the end as long as Annie understands "we haven't really moved" it's okay that the rest probably went over her head, and Kat likes explaining science and technology even more than I enjoy talking baseball, so it's totally within Kat's character to overexplain those things. She probably would have gone on for who knows how long or until she got bored if Annie didn't say "thanks kat". I feel it's not a bad way to set up what's going on with a quick throwback to something we sort of know.
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Pardot posted:Oh look Shadow. When was the last time they were in the comic? It was interesting how the shadow society apparently hated humans and cast Shadow 2 out when they went back because they were too much of a filthy human-lover. You'd think being actively hostile to humanity in that way would mean they'd pose a big danger once the forest was dumped over the court and all the spooky creatures were able to roam around the outer buildings. It's weird that the implications of them, as well as other dangerous forest creatures we've met, are never followed up on after it should be a big deal that they can now get in.
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Randalor posted:Are you talking about the court's space compression stuff? Because they showed that in the comic. They spent half a chapter in Kats space-compressed factory. Annie has first-hand experience with compressed space. This isn't something they talked about offscreen or that is technobabble nonsense (well, okay, it is), but something we've seen, with our own eyes. It was the chapter where Kat's head asploded, and Paz decoded she had enough of this poo poo and peace'd out. The explanation is they're in a Court pocket dimension like Kat's factory, which are already kind of screwy space-wise, combined with Zimmy and Coyote's reality warping. I forgot about that, mainly cause I thought this was sorta something else, like I thought she was saying the whole court is like that on some level.
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Brightman posted:I forgot about that, mainly cause I thought this was sorta something else, like I thought she was saying the whole court is like that on some level. Wait, isn't that what she was saying? I'm confused now.
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Everyone was there for those things you just did the last three pages. God why is every page full of Annie standing around giving recaps every time there’s even a hint of momentum.
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I could understand the recapping as explaining the logic of the plan. We did x, and y happened. We want y to happen again, so we should do x again. That would make sense. But they went in a direction that was familiar, and it led to monsters, so now they need to... head somewhere familiar again? And that familiar place is the sun? I guess this is supposed to feel disjointed and ephemeral, the combination of Coyote's chaos and Zimmy's reality warping forming a dreamlike realm. That doesn't make it less disjointed or frustrating. I just hope a ball made of smaller balls doesn't show up. The cube made of smaller cubes last page doesn't make me feel good.
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This sequence could really have benefited from Coyoting the panel structure a bit to render it a bit trippier. It feels rushed, oddly enough.
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Arbetor posted:I could understand the recapping as explaining the logic of the plan. We did x, and y happened. We want y to happen again, so we should do x again. That would make sense. But they went in a direction that was familiar, and it led to monsters, so now they need to... head somewhere familiar again? And that familiar place is the sun? I guess this is supposed to feel disjointed and ephemeral, the combination of Coyote's chaos and Zimmy's reality warping forming a dreamlike realm. That doesn't make it less disjointed or frustrating. I just hope a ball made of smaller balls doesn't show up. The cube made of smaller cubes last page doesn't make me feel good. Yeah I'm not really following their thought process there. But it kinda feels like Annie's gonna start traveling around like Zimmy ala Divine (or try to). I know she doesn't remember that, but she has experience with both the ether and Zimmy-world, and the trees allude to another scenery change.
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Duodecimal posted:Gunnerkrigg Court: a rushed wasting of time
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Annie is literally doing a Glorantha hero quest.
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Patware posted:establishing shot Next update: "Is that Ysengrin?!" Following update: [second establishing shot] Following update: "Oh no, that's Ysengrin!" Following update: [Kat] "Did you say Ysengrin?!"
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Following update: "New people, this is Ysengrin" Following update: "New people, Ysengrin is..."
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It'll be a real page-turner in book form since you only have to read one line per page.
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Annie's going into her inner soul to beg a bit of werewolf power off of the doggie sealed inside her.
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RocketMermaid posted:Next update: "Is that Ysengrin?!" What was that parody comic (or at least I hope it was a parody) of newspaper comics where the whole week of strips was an art teacher introducing himself by name to the class? I'm having a hell of a time finding it now. Also, Gunnerkrigg Court reminds me of that comic now.
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I'll be honest I do like the art here, the wolf is well realized and the trunks as cage is effective. I do wish that the new humans weren't such a big part of this composition, though - the one nameless black-haired numan reacting to Ysengrin(?) is just kind of frustrating.
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Randalor posted:What was that parody comic (or at least I hope it was a parody) of newspaper comics where the whole week of strips was an art teacher introducing himself by name to the class? I'm having a hell of a time finding it now. Also, Gunnerkrigg Court reminds me of that comic now. Dewey Dawner.
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Lmao this is so good. I think I remember a spiderman(?) parody along these lines too where the pacing was moving glacially slow and the characters noticed and were weirded out by it. I really love the extra detail of the character who is seemingly black having the same colored skin as the white teacher in the Sunday strip. Sunday colorists can differ from newspaper to newspaper and have no communication with the original artist (maybe that's changed since but that's what I heard in the past), and thus notoriously often get colors (including skintones) horribly wrong. And the loving blue and yellow in the last panel that every loving newspaper comic uses for dramatic shots. You can tell this person loves newspaper comics a lot from a detail like that. A loving parody. Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Tiny Myers posted:Lmao this is so good. I think I remember a spiderman(?) parody along these lines too where the pacing was moving glacially slow and the characters noticed and were weirded out by it. https://nitter.net/DanSlott/status/1128090893230252033 My friend, that was canon.
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