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Mr. Nice! posted:I remember how bad RMT tells were for years. The dev team didn’t care or even feel like it was a problem until Yoshi-p logged into a US server and got inundated with RMT tells. By the next patch the report RMT feature was in place. Ninjas too!
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Mordiceius posted:"How dare you tell me to do content I don't want to do. If I wanted to do that content, I would. All I want is a Bozja 2.0. But instead they wasted their time creating lovely content like Island Sanctuary and V/C dungeons. EW is a failure of an expansion." They're right. Doomykins posted:That sounds like a real problem for an idiot banging his head into a wall. Me, I even forgot about V/C dungeons and they sound cool! You should do VC, they're really fun, at least solo. As for FF14 streamers, their problem is that they aren't actually very compelling personalities. Lots of them stream other things and their viewer count evaporates. It also doesn't do them any favors that the people who seem to want to watch ff14 streams are mainly there for msq reactions.
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Mordiceius posted:I just need to vent for a moment. And this venting is about how loving stupid I am and it annoys me. Feel free to completely ignore this post. Those fools, don't they know the sublime joy of running out of content, suspending your sub and putting the game on the shelf for a bit, then re-subbing right before a patch and remembering "oh yeah, this game rules"?
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FFXIV, imho, is just not a game that makes for interesting streaming content. People flock for MSQ reactions, but those type of views tend to be the worst kind. "OMG OMG THIS NEXT PART IS SO GOOD." "THIS NEXT DUNGEON IS GOING TO MAKE YOU CRY!!!!!" FFXIV is just kinda a chill game and I guess some people like watching others play, but I can't imagine just sitting and watching FFXIV streamers outside of World First races for raids.
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Hellioning posted:Is the ffxiv subreddit in the room with us right now?
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Cactrot posted:Those fools, don't they know the sublime joy of running out of content, suspending your sub and putting the game on the shelf for a bit, then re-subbing right before a patch and remembering "oh yeah, this game rules"? "Sorry, but my house is holding me hostage. I am forced to stay subbed and play 40 hours a week." Shinjobi posted:they should just give me Eureka Eureka was better than Bozja. This is the hill I will die on.
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Mordiceius posted:"How dare you tell me to do content I don't want to do. If I wanted to do that content, I would. All I want is a Bozja 2.0. But instead they wasted their time creating lovely content like Island Sanctuary and V/C dungeons. EW is a failure of an expansion." having done the V/C dungeons i'd much prefer a foray to them. they aren't a bad time at all, but criterion and criterion savage have zero of the sandbox experience that i enjoy from foray content. they also completely bungled the rewards structure for criterion/criterion savage, and jobs are wholly unbalanced even with their adjustments in 4 player parties. though that last complaint can be problematic in forays as well, those aren't usually tuned as tightly. for reference, engagement in various side-content according to XIVcollect 45% of players have completed the save the queen storyline 6% of players have completed sil'dah criterion 2.3% of players have completed mount rokkon criterion 7.6% of players have cleared orthos up to floor 100 once 2.9% of players have cleared orthos up to floor 100 four plus times i don't think endwalker is a failure by any stretch but i do think that bozja was much better received as a whole compared to all of the combat side content they've done in endwalker, for a variety of reasons.
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Mordiceius posted:Overall, it seems like there is just a very very very vocal group that feel that FFXIV should be able to be a game they play for 40+ hours a week forever and never touch any other game and have endless grindable content in FFXIV forever. And no one should dare tell them that "hey.... you don't have to play daily. there are other games out there."
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Failboattootoot posted:You should do VC, they're really fun, at least solo. As for FF14 streamers, their problem is that they aren't actually very compelling personalities. Lots of them stream other things and their viewer count evaporates. It also doesn't do them any favors that the people who seem to want to watch ff14 streams are mainly there for msq reactions. Oh I plan to, I'm still in the MSQ. At least once the servers go back up I can make good progress this week, I finished Elpis and things are in that super hot and spicy part of the story where I can't put it down. EW took me a looooong time but it's probably the longest MSQ short of ARR to HW and every few zones I'd feel like I finished reading a thick book. A shame about streamer curses but yeah, I think a lot of any video game watching appeal can be locked down if you're great at the game. I could watch pro fighting game matches all day, now ask me to get to that level myself and hmmmmmm.
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Mordiceius posted:I just need to vent for a moment. And this venting is about how loving stupid I am and it annoys me. Feel free to completely ignore this post. Isn't the common wisdom with that that alot of those folks are WoW refugees, where playing like it was your job was a thing? Do dailies to unlock the rep grind that gets you the dailies to grind for the real grind, and then run a raid all night.
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Frida Call Me posted:for reference, engagement in various side-content according to XIVcollect You’re comparing apples and oranges here. Criterion Dungeons and Floor 100 clears of Deep Dungeons would be more equivalent to people clearing Delubrum Reginae (Savage). Which, as of right now is 9.7%.
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the_steve posted:Isn't the common wisdom with that that alot of those folks are WoW refugees, where playing like it was your job was a thing? Do dailies to unlock the rep grind that gets you the dailies to grind for the real grind, and then run a raid all night. Wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case. The last expansion Shadowlands was the worst they had gotten about the grindset in years, and that was presumably the point where a lot of folks (myself included) hopped trains over to here.
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Frida Call Me posted:having done the V/C dungeons i'd much prefer a foray to them. they aren't a bad time at all, but criterion and criterion savage have zero of the sandbox experience that i enjoy from foray content. they also completely bungled the rewards structure for criterion/criterion savage, and jobs are wholly unbalanced even with their adjustments in 4 player parties. though that last complaint can be problematic in forays as well, those aren't usually tuned as tightly. I don't think comparing Bozja story to Criterion completions is really fitting in terms of difficulty and style. I'm very much on the casual side of the content and I've done Bozja. It also is a lot more drop in/drop out content that you can mostly just do on your own unlike Criterions which feel a lot more along the lines of have a set group to tackle them with.
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Mordiceius posted:"Sorry, but my house is holding me hostage. I am forced to stay subbed and play 40 hours a week." My heart weeps for the those poor, unfortunate, homeowners.
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Cactrot posted:Those fools, don't they know the sublime joy of running out of content, suspending your sub and putting the game on the shelf for a bit, then re-subbing right before a patch and remembering "oh yeah, this game rules"? That blissful joy is sometimes stymied by realizing you missed out on something and you don't know if it will ever be obtainable again. (not me missing the fat cat parasol, nosiree)
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Mordiceius posted:You’re comparing apples and oranges here. Criterion Dungeons and Floor 100 clears of Deep Dungeons would be more equivalent to people clearing Delubrum Reginae (Savage). Which, as of right now is 9.7%. i disagree - comparing 4 player savage content to 48 player savage content is apples and oranges.
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Infected posted:I don't think comparing Bozja story to Criterion completions is really fitting in terms of difficulty and style. I'm very much on the casual side of the content and I've done Bozja. It also is a lot more drop in/drop out content that you can mostly just do on your own unlike Criterions which feel a lot more along the lines of have a set group to tackle them with. right, that's my point is that there isn't an equivalent difficulty casual combat content in endwalker (like a foray).
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Frida Call Me posted:i disagree - comparing 4 player savage content to 48 player savage content is apples and oranges. “Hard content and casual content should be judged as the same. I am very smart.” Frida Call Me posted:right, that's my point is that there isn't an equivalent difficulty casual combat content in endwalker (like a foray). It’s called variant dungeons. And deep dungeons. Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Oct 2, 2023 |
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Frida Call Me posted:<snip>  Guilty as charged as the deep dungeon enjoyer.  Heaven-on-High, too. My friend and I have run them many times and have duo cleared both. We are looking forward very much to the next one in Dawntrail.
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Mordiceius posted:“Hard content and casual content should be judged as the same. I am very smart.” you can clear all paths in a variant dungeons and get every reward in about 6 hours of investment, less if you're using a guide. minimum time investment in bozja to get all rewards is a magnitude higher, and the rewards much more significant. additionally the actions system is straight-up boring in variant compared to the actions systems in forays. but if you're not willing to engage in this topic seriously without making ad-hoc attacks then i'm utterly uninterested in discussing this with you.
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Ziddar posted:
True Hero is an evergreen title too
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Frida Call Me posted:you can clear all paths in a variant dungeons and get every reward in about 6 hours of investment, less if you're using a guide. minimum time investment in bozja to get all rewards is a magnitude higher, and the rewards much more significant. additionally the actions system is straight-up boring in variant compared to the actions systems in forays. You were literally the person comparing drop in content to savage difficulty content and saying they’re the same.
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Ziddar posted:
nice! i had a good time with orthos but i don't see any reason to do it after getting my clears in. they could've at least made it a competitive option for leveling on floors 21-30, but bozja's still got that on lock.
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Frida Call Me posted:they could've at least made it a competitive option for leveling on floors 21-30, but bozja's still got that on lock.
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Frida Call Me posted:you can clear all paths in a variant dungeons and get every reward in about 6 hours of investment, less if you're using a guide. minimum time investment in bozja to get all rewards is a magnitude higher, and the rewards much more significant. additionally the actions system is straight-up boring in variant compared to the actions systems in forays. VC's actions are better because they don't cost me anything!!!
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Frida Call Me posted:nice! i had a good time with orthos but i don't see any reason to do it after getting my clears in. they could've at least made it a competitive option for leveling on floors 21-30, but bozja's still got that on lock. Heh, we find it just a fun thing to duo. The focus needed and the random fuckery makes it fun each time we clear. My friend is also working on solo clears of all three deep dungeons, currently closest on HoH. That is a bit much for me, but perhaps someday.  Also I got this crustacean friend from EO, too. It bubbles!
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V/C Dungeons are so loving cool and I love them. I'm glad they intend to increase the rewards that can be gained by doing them in the future, because that's really the sole reason they're not more popular. They scratch a lot of the "exploring a dungeon" itch I miss from places in 1.0 like Shposhae Seagrot or the old Thousand Maws of Totorak. It's not the same because there are no Notorious Monsters you can happen upon and it's not truly open, but the puzzle aspect is a ton of fun and makes the dungeons feel way more immersive. Regarding Eureka, I'm a huge fan of it now that players pemanently get the Echo inside, but I'll be the first to tell you I was not impressed when the content was current. The increased options for EXP gain inside and the fact that it's now possible to actually quickly solo kill enemies higher than your level makes the experience far easier without being a cake walk. Lost actions are also really fun to fiddle around with and can make me feel even more powerful- feeling like a one man army in Eureka is so cool.  I'm curious how adding Stormblood to the free trial may affect Eureka as a whole.I still want to do Delubrum Reginae Savage sometime to work towards getting the upgraded Judge armor, but I don't have the real-life ability to commit uncertainly long hours to groups, so that will remain a pipe dream for now.
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Kaubocks posted:I'm in the process of getting the aetherpool needed to solo EO, but as a latecomer it's proving a massive pain. nobody queues for this poo poo lmao your best bet would be to put up a PF with a stated goal of farming aetherpool imo. Ziddar posted:Heh, we find it just a fun thing to duo. The focus needed and the random fuckery makes it fun each time we clear. My friend is also working on solo clears of all three deep dungeons, currently closest on HoH. That is a bit much for me, but perhaps someday. crab owns. my buddy got 4 of them by the time we cleared orthos twice. Failboattootoot posted:VC's actions are better because they don't cost me anything!!! i can see that as being a bonus and i'd love it if the current forays had default actions if you had none equipped (especially when delebrum reginae was still in the duty* finder back in shadowbringers). but there's a lot of very cheap and effective foray actions that are practically effortless to get in large amounts. reflect farming in hydatos for conceptual/fundamental logograms or reflect farming in bozja for fragments is very low-effort, high-reward activity to give you deep caches of resources to use inside of foray content. Frida Call Me fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Oct 2, 2023 |
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Frida Call Me posted:
My number 1 hope for the next round of exploratory zones they make the actions 1 time drops you can collect and then use for 0 cost or expenditure. Or failing that, setting the actions costs nothing but using them takes some kind of universal currency I don't have to go out of my way to explicitly farm.
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Mordiceius posted:TLDR: Reddit is still awful I think a lot of that is due to the WoW exodus folks finally finishing off all the content over a couple years and now they want more content they can grind endlessly. I do wish they made Bozja 2.0 though but a lot of people like Island Sanctuary a lot so that's just me Feldegast42 fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 2, 2023 |
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Failboattootoot posted:My number 1 hope for the next round of exploratory zones they make the actions 1 time drops you can collect and then use for 0 cost or expenditure. Or failing that, setting the actions costs nothing but using them takes some kind of universal currency I don't have to go out of my way to explicitly farm. i can see both sides of that one, since farming and selling fragments/logograms is still a fantastic source of income in both bozja and eureka and i'd hate to lose it!
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Frida Call Me posted:i can see both sides of that one, since farming and selling fragments/logograms is still a fantastic source of income in both bozja and eureka and i'd hate to lose it! Then you can get excited to end up stuck with me showing up to next_ez_raid with a random dps banner I've got 200 of from fate grinding in the 3rd area, protect 5, and a 50/50 coinflip on if I have an elixer on (but if I do, it's probably not a helpful one)!
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Failboattootoot posted:Then you can get excited to end up stuck with me showing up to next_ez_raid with a random dps banner I've got 200 of from fate grinding in the 3rd area, protect 5, and a 50/50 coinflip on if I have an elixer on (but if I do, it's probably not a helpful one)! i'd probably just teach you how to get the good stuff or hand you a pile of it if you're on my datacenter!
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