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Bad news for Moldovan Foreign Minister Nicu Popescu - Moldovan Foreign Minister Nicu Popescu is expecting Americans to care about Moldova https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/02/popescu-moldova-ukraine-russia-war/ Moldova’s foreign minister: ‘What happens in Ukraine doesn’t stay in Ukraine’ By Josh Rogin October 2, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT Those who want to pull U.S. aid from Ukraine fail to understand the devastating impact that such a move would have on many other countries — and especially those in Vladimir Putin’s sights. For the small Eastern European nation of Moldova, international support for its neighbor Ukraine is the linchpin of its own security. Pulling it now would doom the region and set a terrible precedent around the world. That was the main message of Moldovan Foreign Minister Nicu Popescu, whom I interviewed in New York last week on the sidelines of U.N. General Assembly meetings. “What happens in Ukraine does not stay in Ukraine,” Popescu told me. “What happens in Eastern Europe does not stay in Eastern Europe. It has global repercussions.” Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February last year, Moldova, which is not a member of NATO or the European Union (although it seeks to join the latter) and has just a small army, has dealt with energy disruption, massive inflation, trade disruption and thousands of refugees, all while managing tense relations with its breakaway province of Transnistria, where about 1,500 Russian troops are stationed. “This war had a negative impact on every country in the world. … But the closer you get to it, the more impacted you are,” he said. And while Moscow has sought to control Moldova through widespread political interference for decades, Putin has stooped to unprecedented levels to harass and undermine the current Western-leaning government there. Even though no Russian missiles have landed in Moldova, Russia is waging war on the country nonetheless in a variety of nonmilitary ways, Popescu told me. Moscow has funneled money illegally into Moldovan politics, used energy for coercion, attempted to orchestrate a coup, spread massive amounts of disinformation, perpetrated bomb hoaxes, launched endless cyberattacks and trained fake protesters to attack police and state institutions. It’s remarkable, given that onslaught, that Moldova is so (relatively) stable. But the costs of mitigating the consequences of the Ukraine war while fighting off Moscow’s interference have forced Moldova to divert resources meant for infrastructure, investment and development, the foreign minister said. Nevertheless, Moldova is not asking U.S. taxpayers to send it money, having already received commitments for about $300 million of assistance in past Ukraine aid bills. Rather, Moldovan leaders are urging the United States not to significantly cut its economic and humanitarian aid to Ukraine, as more and more Republican members of Congress (and GOP presidential candidates) are pledging to do. The Biden administration is requesting about $24 billion in additional military, economic and humanitarian aid to respond to Russia’s invasion and aid Ukraine’s resistance, as well as to address the effects the war is having around the region. That last part — the regional dynamic — is what often gets lost in the broad-brush debate. “Every single piece of help given to Ukraine, military, economic, financial, energy, is also an investment in Moldova’s security, peace and stability,” Popescu said. “Moldova is peaceful, thanks to the capacity of Ukraine to resist the Russian army and to keep the Russian army far away from our borders.” In other words, if some Republicans are successful in drastically reducing U.S. aid to Ukraine, Moldova’s fragile situation could collapse and Moscow-inspired violence could spread. Popescu also makes the case that abandoning Ukraine would embolden aggressors in other regions to attack their smaller, weaker democratic neighbors. “That is why what happens in Ukraine already has and will continue to have massive direct implications and effects for U.S. global presence, for U.S. global exposure, for U.S. credibility, not just in Eastern Europe, but also in the Asia-Pacific region,” he said. House Republicans stripped Ukraine aid from the 45-day stopgap spending bill Congress passed Saturday, ignoring appeals from top administration national security officials. The Senate had proposed $6.1 billion in Ukraine funding, enough to continue assistance to Kyiv for 45 days. But as a government shutdown loomed Saturday, the Senate acquiesced to the House position and passed the funding bill without any Ukraine aid. Senate leaders have pledged vote on stand-alone Ukraine aid legislation soon. But House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) won’t promise to bring that bill to the House floor — leaving the fate of the aid uncertain. Even if it does squeak through this time, support for Ukraine aid in the GOP is cratering fast. That’s a problem, because there’s a good chance the war will go on for a long time. Popescu said U.S. and European leaders must prepare for a longer war, moving now, not later, to take measures such as increasing military production capacity, rerouting food supply chains and building new energy resilience. “Unfortunately, the likely end of this war is not around the corner,” he said. “But the Ukrainians have this amazing and tremendous capacity to resist. They will not give up. But the more support they have, the more likely it is that the length of this war will be shorter.” Putin thinks of the military component as only one part of his multifaceted war on the West, so the United States and its allies must think about their response in a similarly hybrid way. Pulling U.S. aid to Ukraine now will lead to far greater costs down the road — and leave lots of other countries at Putin’s mercy.
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Bad news for Europe - While Europe has shouldered a growing portion of the Western assistance to Ukraine and remains solidly behind Kyiv, the continent’s ability to scale up military and economic support to make up for a reduction in U.S. assistance is severely limited. https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/as-u-s-aid-to-ukraine-falters-europe-faces-its-own-limits-on-help-b3e899aa America’s Step Back on Ukraine Aid Puts Europe in a Bind By Laurence Norman Updated Oct. 2, 2023 12:28 pm ET KYIV, Ukraine — European leaders face a question they had hoped to avoid: If the U.S. steps back from leading Western support for Ukraine, could they fill the gap? The question is hanging over Europe after the weekend decision in Washington to avert a partial government shutdown by passing a funding measure that excluded aid for Ukraine. The U.S. decision sent shock waves across the Atlantic. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky vowed Sunday that his country would fight on to victory, saying there is no “expiration date” for its willingness to resist Russia. On Monday, in a show of solidarity with Kyiv, European foreign ministers held a meeting in Ukraine with Zelensky and his foreign minister in attendance, a rare gathering outside the bloc for the European officials. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said Kyiv is working with both parties in Congress to ensure the “incident” over the weekend isn’t repeated. “We don’t feel that the U.S. support has been shattered,” he said on Monday. European Union foreign-policy chief Josep Borrell, visiting Kyiv, called the decision “deeply and thoroughly” regrettable and said the bloc would “continue supporting and increasing our support.” “Europe is facing an existential threat” from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Borrell said on Sunday. While Europe has shouldered a growing portion of the Western assistance to Ukraine and remains solidly behind Kyiv, the continent’s ability to scale up military and economic support to make up for a reduction in U.S. assistance is severely limited. “European unity on Ukraine has been quite solid so far,” said Vessela Tcherneva, head of the Bulgaria office of the European Council on Foreign Relations, a think tank. “But if it becomes too lonely and too expensive, it may become problematic.” While Congress was passing its short-term funding bill, voters in Slovakia sent a signal on the political limits of Europe’s support for Ukraine by backing former Prime Minister Robert Fico, who campaigned against sanctions on Russia and pledged not to send a single weapon to Kyiv. Slovakia’s election could be the EU’s first since Russia’s large-scale invasion to reorient government policy on Ukraine. Relations between Ukraine and Poland, one of Kyiv’s staunchest allies in the first year of the war, have grown tense ahead of elections in Poland later this month, sparked by a row over a ban on Ukrainian grain imports. Poland did, however, walk back threats to stop weapons deliveries to Ukraine over the argument. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban continues to deride Western military assistance for Ukraine, calling for swift peace negotiations and an end to sanctions. Biden administration officials insist that Washington will continue to help Kyiv for as long as needed. But the growing Republican opposition to Ukraine aid, led by former President Donald Trump, is hampering the administration’s ability to push economic and military aid packages through Congress. In Europe, some officials acknowledge that the region also faces a political test to maintain support for Ukraine amid economic stagnation, high inflation and budget constraints, especially in the EU, where decisions are taken by consensus. “We are facing the same challenges in Europe,” Charles Michel, one of the EU’s top two leaders, said last week. “It’s very important for us in Europe to make sure that we are supported by our public opinion, by our citizens.” Europe’s biggest constraint on its ability to stand in for the U.S. may be the weakness of its defense industry. Weapons production fell significantly after the Cold War because of years of low spending by European governments. Major armaments, such as tanks, planes and submarines, also take a long time to make. That has pushed some European militaries to look elsewhere when buying weapons. John Dowdy, a former aerospace and defense team leader at McKinsey, said Europe has stocks of F-16 jet fighters and Leopard tanks that can help Ukraine, but its stockpile of munitions that are crucial for Ukraine was “cut right back to the bone” in recent decades. The EU has responded by pledging to provide one million shells for Ukraine by next spring. Halfway into the 12-month plan, it has provided only one-quarter of that, taking from its stocks. Governments have signed contracts to produce more, but they will take time to deliver. The U.S. stepped in this summer to provide cluster munitions to Ukraine. Rheinmetall, Europe’s biggest munitions maker, said it would be able to make 600,000 shells, up from 150,000 last year, thanks to an expansion of its own manufacturing and the acquisition of a Spanish company. BAE Systems, Europe’s largest defense company, said expansion at its plants and new production techniques mean it will be able to produce eight times as many shells as before the war—but not for another two years. Industry officials say that Europe’s defense industry currently can collectively only produce 5% to 10% of the artillery ammunition Ukraine needs. Dowdy said that without governments offering companies long-term contracts, the region will struggle to produce anything near Ukraine’s weaponry needs. “Even in two to three years, that’s not going to be sufficient to supply munitions at the rate at which Ukraine is currently consuming” them, he said. The EU and its member states since the start of the war have committed $80.3 billion in humanitarian, budget and military support for Ukraine, according to EU data. U.S. military, budget and humanitarian support for Ukraine is around $74 billion, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute. That includes some $44 billion in military assistance, more than five times the amount committed by the next-biggest contributors, Germany and Britain. The U.K. said in June that it had provided around $5.7 billion in nonmilitary aid for Ukraine and will have spent $6 billion on military aid by the end of this year. Norway, another North Atlantic Treaty Organization member not in the EU, in February pledged $7 billion in assistance for Ukraine over five years. The EU is widely expected soon to approve roughly $53 billion in help for Ukraine’s government to cover budget obligations over the next four years. Germany, which has become Ukraine’s second-biggest military backer after the U.S., has set aside roughly $11 billion for the coming years. Yet with EU economic growth set to be just 0.8% this year and regional powerhouse Germany expecting an economic contraction this year, European governments would struggle to provide enough assistance to cover any U.S. shortfalls. In a sign of those challenges, Borrell said after the foreign ministers’ meeting on Monday that he would seek agreement to lock in $5.2 billion in military aid for Ukraine for next year. His original proposal was that the EU should approve a $21 billion, four-year military package for Ukraine but that idea didn’t garner enough support. Any step back by the U.S. won’t just reverberate financially in Europe. Washington has provided a critical political and diplomatic platform to champion Ukraine’s cause. U.S. support has galvanized European governments to shoulder more of the financial burden, fearful that Washington’s commitment to NATO might end. European governments, especially Germany, have only agreed to send more modern types of equipment to Ukraine when Washington has pledged to do the same.
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fizzy posted:Bad news for relations between Ukraine and Poland - In contradictory comments on Oct. 2, the Polish Minister of State Assets Jacek Sasin said that the largest Polish state-run defense corporation was not invited to the recent Defense Industry Forum in Kyiv, while Ukrainian Ambassador to Poland, Vasyl Svarych, said that Poland was among the first to receive an invitation. Good news for relations between Ukraine and Poland - Jacek Sasin, Minister of State Assets of Poland, has officially apologised for his previous false statement that Ukraine allegedly did not invite Polish companies to the Defence Industries Forum in the city of Kyiv. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/2/7422369/ Warsaw admits Ukraine invited Poland to defence forum and apologises EUROPEAN PRAVDA MONDAY, 2 OCTOBER 2023, 21:39 Jacek Sasin, Minister of State Assets of Poland, has officially apologised for his previous false statement that Ukraine allegedly did not invite Polish companies to the Defence Industries Forum in the city of Kyiv. Source: Sasin on Twitter, as reported by European Pravda Sasin remarked that when he told Radio ZET in an interview about Ukraine not inviting Poland to the defence forum, he "did not have accurate information". "After the conversation with the President of Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa [largest defence company in Poland – ed.], I was informed that PGZ received the invitation…In view of the above, I am correcting my statement. I apologise for the misunderstanding," Sasin added. https://twitter.com/SasinJacek/status/1708879560442368212 The PGZ concern also commented on the situation, stressing the "constant and close bilateral cooperation" with Ukraine and recalling mainly the agreement about the maintenance of the Leopard 2A4 tanks the Western countries supplied Ukraine’s Armed Forces with. Beata Perkowska confirmed in a comment for Ukrinform that the concern had received a letter of invitation to the Defence Technologies Forum from Ukraine, but was unable to participate due to "other circumstances", and it all happened "upon coordination with the Ukrainian side". Vasyl Zvarych, Ukrainian ambassador in Poland, told the Polish media that Poland was one of the first countries to be invited to the event. Background: The Defence Industries Forum was held in Kyiv last Friday, 29 September. At the event, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced, among other things, the creation of the Defence Industries Alliance. Dmytro Kuleba, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, announced a "new era" of the Ukrainian defence industry after the meeting. Ukrainska Pravda is the place where you will find the most up-to-date information about everything related to the war in Ukraine. Follow us on Twitter, support us, or become our patron!
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Frosted Flake posted:Ammo plz No. - Bill Blair
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Good news for Ukraine - Ukrainian forces advanced in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-2-2023 RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, OCTOBER 2, 2023 Ukrainian forces marginally advanced in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area amid continued counteroffensive operations in western Zaporizhia Oblast and near Bakhmut on October 2. Geolocated footage published on October 2 indicates that Ukrainian forces marginally advanced northwest of Novomayorske (18km southeast of Veylka Novosilka).[7] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces continued offensive operations in the Melitopol (western Zaporizhia Oblast) and Bakhmut directions.[8] ISW is updating its October 1 assessment that Ukrainian forces lost positions in a trench system southwest of Robotyne (13km south of Orikhiv) to Russian counterattacks between September 13 and 30.[9] Geolocated footage published on October 2 and satellite imagery indicate that Ukrainian forces likely retook these positions sometime between September 12 and 17 and currently hold them.[10]
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Ah so Moldova was expecting to have their rear end covered instead of unfastened overalls flapping in the breeze. Well now they know.
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Frosted Flake posted:Ammo plz Good news for Frosted Flake - Denmark's Defense Ministry has announced allocating 100 million Danish kroner ($14 million) to jointly purchase ammunition for Ukraine with EU member states. https://kyivindependent.com/denmark-allocates-14-million-to-purchase-ammunition-for-ukraine/ Denmark allocates $14 million to purchase ammunition for Ukraine by Dinara Khalilova October 2, 2023 11:35 PM 2 min read Denmark's Defense Ministry has announced allocating 100 million Danish kroner ($14 million) to jointly purchase ammunition for Ukraine with EU member states. "The Ukrainians are still in a situation where they are acutely short of artillery ammunition… Denmark will contribute to more joint purchases of ammunition and remains prepared to support Ukraine in the long run," Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen said. The funds will contribute to the second phase of the European Union's plan to provide Ukraine with one million 155-mm-caliber artillery rounds. The EU agreed to provide Ukraine with one million artillery shells on March 20. In the first phase, the bloc dedicated one billion euros to reimburse countries that could send their stockpiles right away. Another billion will be used for the joint purchase of new rounds. The joint procurement program is run under the auspices of the European Defense Agency, which expects the ammunition to be delivered in 2024. The European Union has committed a total of 85 billion euros in military and humanitarian aid for Ukraine, according to Josep Borrell, the EU's high representative for foreign policy and security.
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fizzy posted:Good news for Frosted Flake - Denmark's Defense Ministry has announced allocating 100 million Danish kroner ($14 million) to jointly purchase ammunition for Ukraine with EU member states. Bad news for the credibility of Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen - Ukraine's President Zelensky has already confirmed that Ukraine is at artillery ammunition parity with Russia. https://kyivindependent.com/cbs-each-side-fires-40-000-shells-a-day-on-front-line CBS: Each side fires 40,000 shells a day on front line by Elsa Court September 18, 2023 9:24 AM 2 min read Ukraine and Russia each fire 40,000 shells per day across the front line, which stretches over 1,000 kilometers through Ukrainian territory, CBS reported during a "60 Minutes" interview with President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sept. 17. Answering a question on the slow progress of the ongoing counteroffensive, Zelensky said that the situation is "difficult," but "it is important that we are moving forward every day and liberating territory." "We mustn't give Putin a break," he said, adding that the Russian dictator is someone who "cannot be trusted," because he has "not been a human being for a long time." Zelensky said he believes that Putin is going to continue using the threat of nuclear war, but is waiting for the U.S. to become less stable. The U.S. presidential election in 2024 will therefore be a time that Putin will threaten to use nuclear weapons to fuel instability, according to the Ukrainian president. Zelensky also said that Ukraine has "every moral right" to attack Russian strategic targets and that drone attacks send the message that "your sky is not as well protected as you think." He also addressed concerns about fear of Russian attacks on energy facilities as the cold season approaches. Last winter, relentless Russian strikes cut millions of Ukrainians off from heating and power. "If you cut off our power, deprive us of electricity, deprive us of water, deprive us to gasoline, we have the right to do the same to you," he said.
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fizzy posted:Bad news for the credibility of Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen - Ukraine's President Zelensky has already confirmed that Ukraine is at artillery ammunition parity with Russia. Bad news for the credibility of Ukraine's President Zelensky - Ukrainian MP Oleksandra Ustinova has already confirmed on the same day that Ukrainian guns are firing up to 6,000 rounds daily but the military wants to shoot more than 10,000, and even that is a fraction of the 60,000 shells that Russia was using at the peak of its barrages this year. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/17/europe/ukraine-shell-supplies-intl/index.html Ukraine is firing shells faster than can be supplied. Can Europe catch up? By Joseph Ataman and Clare Sebastian, CNN Updated 8:47 AM EDT, Sun September 17, 2023 ... Amid their counteroffensive, Ukrainian guns are firing up to 6,000 rounds daily, Ukrainian MP Oleksandra Ustinova told CNN, but the military wants to shoot more than 10,000. Even that is a fraction of the 60,000 shells that Russia was using at the peak of its barrages this year, per an Estonian and Ukrainian government analysis.
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DancingShade posted:Ah so Moldova was expecting to have their rear end covered instead of unfastened overalls flapping in the breeze. If Ukraine rolled over in a week, there's every chance they would've annexed Moldova while they were at it. At that point, every Euroskeptic/far-right shitheel/"sovereign democrat" dictator in the world would be singing praises to Putler as "the man who overthrew the rule-based Western World Order". Don't forget about the "Manifesto of sovereign democracies" which Putler and Xi co-signed in Bejing during the Olympics. Under those circumstances, if a bunch of armed Russian-speakers in the Estonian border city of Narva were to declare that "they are being oppressed by Nazis" and asked Putler to come "protect the rights of Russian-speakers", there's a very real, non-zero chance that multiple Western politicians would stall and pause before saying "we have to protect Estonia, because they are NATO". And whether they'd act on time or not is something very unclear. Very obviously, once UA managed to hold back the onslaught, exposed the Russian military for the paper tiger it is and began to systematically demilitarize it, the likelyhood of such a tectonic geopolitical upheaval started plunging at a nearly exponential rate; But that is something that only became evident because of what UAF accomplished. Which is why Zelensky is trying to leverage that as something Ukraine already did for the West- the same way he's been trying to leverage the "moral responsibility" for the fact that Ukraine gave up its nukes, which is what put it in such a vulnerable position in the first place.
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HiroProtagonist posted:Ehh it's just another thing to use to poo poo on Ukraine. Most left wingers know full well that Ukraine has nazis and has had nazis in the past. As you said there are more pressing matters going on in the country and running around saying sorry about history and/or pulling nazis off the frontline who are fighting Russia isn't a priority. Lock the fucks up after the war. They'll be dead if they don't win anyway so whatever. The waffen SS nazi dude is still being yelled about in places and is pretty funny that it's still being clawed onto so bad. 5?6? days working yourself up over a 98 year old nazi lol. it owns
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V. Illych L. posted:individual wehrmacht soldiers were reasonably often conscripts caught in a really lovely situation. some people who were active resistance members (at least in the white rose-style civilian resistance) still served their tours of duty in the wehrmacht. the organisation was a nazi organisation, but one of which you really couldn't escape being a part and i think there must be room for forgiving hansi from lower saxony who got called up and couldn't see what else to do. the goddamned ss though lol come the gently caress on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuOvSu9oQBk
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so the guy is just an unironic nazi lol cool forums moderation we got here
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V. Illych L. posted:individual wehrmacht soldiers were reasonably often conscripts caught in a really lovely situation. some people who were active resistance members (at least in the white rose-style civilian resistance) still served their tours of duty in the wehrmacht. the organisation was a nazi organisation, but one of which you really couldn't escape being a part and i think there must be room for forgiving hansi from lower saxony who got called up and couldn't see what else to do. the goddamned ss though lol come the gently caress on most cursed username/post combo in history retire your username bitch
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why does CSPAM get so much poo poo when this type of crap gets unearthed time and time again?
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Mostly Lurking posted:why does CSPAM get so much poo poo when this type of crap gets unearthed time and time again? Because Western society is fine with Nazis and hates anyone on the left
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The_Politics_Man posted:Nah gently caress em. They could have chosen to desert or mutiny instead of helping their nation's genocidal ambitions. The German people knew exactly what their government was doing and why it was doing it and chose to buy in. keep in mind wehrmacht soldiers were under infinitely more existential danger if they didn't join than every us troop, who are uniformly racist pedophiles who chose to murder and rape muslims instead of getting real jobs👀
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Mostly Lurking posted:why does CSPAM get so much poo poo when this type of crap gets unearthed time and time again? because the rest of the forums agrees with them
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Mostly Lurking posted:why does CSPAM get so much poo poo when this type of crap gets unearthed time and time again? 
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KomradeX posted:Because Western society is fine with Nazis and hates anyone on the left
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V. Illych L. posted:individual wehrmacht soldiers were reasonably often conscripts caught in a really lovely situation. some people who were active resistance members (at least in the white rose-style civilian resistance) still served their tours of duty in the wehrmacht. the organisation was a nazi organisation, but one of which you really couldn't escape being a part and i think there must be room for forgiving hansi from lower saxony who got called up and couldn't see what else to do. the goddamned ss though lol come the gently caress on it should be a bannable offense to post dumb clean wehrmacht bullshit
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Ciprian Maricon posted:it should be a bannable offense to post dumb clean wehrmacht bullshit I am taking a controversial opinion that anyone engaging in the defense of Nazis, living or dead, should cop a ban
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V. Illych L. posted:individual wehrmacht soldiers were reasonably often conscripts caught in a really lovely situation. some people who were active resistance members (at least in the white rose-style civilian resistance) still served their tours of duty in the wehrmacht. the organisation was a nazi organisation, but one of which you really couldn't escape being a part and i think there must be room for forgiving hansi from lower saxony who got called up and couldn't see what else to do. the goddamned ss though lol come the gently caress on Psycho Society posted:most cursed username/post combo in history
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Assumption of bad faith and insinuation that another poster is a fascist when he's a tankie. User loses posting privileges for 1 day. lmfao koos
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V. Illych L. posted:individual wehrmacht soldiers were reasonably often conscripts caught in a really lovely situation. some people who were active resistance members (at least in the white rose-style civilian resistance) still served their tours of duty in the wehrmacht. the organisation was a nazi organisation, but one of which you really couldn't escape being a part and i think there must be room for forgiving hansi from lower saxony who got called up and couldn't see what else to do. the goddamned ss though lol come the gently caress on they all suck rear end op
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iirc there’s been basically no proof of Wehrmacht soldiers being punished for non-participation in war crimes. In Ordinary Men, the unit was organized as a death squad and guys who declined were “forced” to hang out in the bivouac as sentries or work in the motor pool. They were seen as letting the side down and not having the constitution for “real” work, but that was the extent of it.
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Frosted Flake posted:iirc there’s been basically no proof of Wehrmacht soldiers being punished for non-participation in war crimes. In Ordinary Men, the unit was organized as a death squad and guys who declined were “forced” to hang out in the bivouac as sentries or work in the motor pool. They were seen as letting the side down and not having the constitution for “real” work, but that was the extent of it. does that make being a conscript less or more morally bad
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The ultimate terror regime: peer pressure It's funny how all these dudes did this insanely horrific poo poo because, like, you don't want to look like a pussy or something right? Yet Stalin needed all that terror and repression to get people to build roads and stuff
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Granted, I wonder if the West itself is salvageable at this point.
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bedpan posted:order has been restored thank you. i will remember this good deed.
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Ardennes posted:Granted, I wonder if the West itself is salvageable at this point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GndAiU2qoDI
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fizzy posted:Good news for Ukraine - America’s strategic interests are so big that Ukraine is part of them, and the internal political struggle cannot affect the assistance to Ukraine that much. There will be some errors, but they will be insignificant. so wait they understand that this kind of thing is a normal part of our political system but they still see it as something worthy of emulation
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V. Illych L. posted:individual wehrmacht soldiers were reasonably often conscripts caught in a really lovely situation. some people who were active resistance members (at least in the white rose-style civilian resistance) still served their tours of duty in the wehrmacht. the organisation was a nazi organisation, but one of which you really couldn't escape being a part and i think there must be room for forgiving hansi from lower saxony who got called up and couldn't see what else to do. the goddamned ss though lol come the gently caress on You survived the firing squad, Vidkun?! 
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