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Olesh posted:-Yeah but your comparisons were bad and wrong. You were wrong to make them, and people were right to correct you with more accurate comparisons. -You were comparing casual, story difficulty content to 4 player savage content, how is that more fair that comparing DRS and criterion? it's all under the umbrella of content that isn't 8 man savage raiding, sure. trying to pug DRS in tyol 2023 and trying to pug criterion in tyol 2023 are both equally fruitless without using established communities to get progress. -You absolutely could. This is a weird sentence, but I assume by external planning tool you mean something like raidplan.io or toolbox.gg. Anyway, patently false; we were working on DRS right when it came out and certainly none of that existed back then. If you're talking instead about something like the BA organization groups to schedule runs, those existed, sure, but you didn't have to use them. Maybe that's not true nowadays, but I sure as poo poo did successful pick-up groups for DRS back when it came out, though, prior even to release of the proofs of mettle. The only "external planning tool" used was Discord, so that someone who knew the mechanics could explain them and call out what needed to be done. yes, discord is the external planning tool that i am referring to. good luck clearing DRS in PF without voice comms or scheduling runs or anything along those lines. -This is a strange and spurious complaint. Almost nobody in non-JP servers completes hard content using the duty finder, and extremes are no exception. i've helped around 40 people complete first-time synced extremes in mentor roulettes this month on NA servers, so this is patently untrue. you're just pushing a line from people that want to get guildhests in their mentor roulettes to get the mount faster  -And yet, there's two versions - criterion and criterion (savage). I think the people that developed the content think that one of those is savage difficulty (the one labeled savage), and the non-savage criterion is... easier. On a difficulty scale, it's harder than extremes and easier than savage content. There's no preexisting term for content that fits between those two levels. If extreme trials are your comfort zone, I can understand why you would label the difficulty level of criterion as "savage" - it's harder than what you're used to! But people who are comfortable with savage trials dub the difficulty of criterion as closer to "extreme" than "savage". There IS a savage version of criterion, but it's not the one you had trouble with. i've cleared this tier but thanks for patronizing me! anyways, in this interview with the creators of criterion dungeons they admit that the base difficulty is on par with savage raids. https://www.inverse.com/gaming/ffxiv-variant-criterion-dungeons-interview "It’s somewhat similar to designing eight-player raids in that we’re creating two separate difficulties, but variant dungeons are about as hard as a four-player dungeon whereas criterion dungeons are equivalent to Savage" -There is no "content longevity" problem nor a need to specifically plan for it. You want to do criterion six months/a year from now? Great, find three other people and go do it. It's a 50% lower bar than doing EXs. there absolutely is, orthos 21-30 was dead within a month of release. it's bad for leveling jobs compared to bozja so the only people running orthos are doing so with a premade or solo. you have no reason to do variant dungeons after you complete all routes. you have no reason to do criterion dungeons after you acquire the mount and other rewards. as soon as dawntrail hits the most effective methods for acquiring endwalker relics will be eureka/bozja as they're the best source of poetics. it's a 50% lower bar if you don't consider that EX's have better rewards than criterion dungeons!!
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Frida Call Me posted:how can listing statistics of clear rates of content be bad and wrong? it's information that is pertinent to the original topic of discussion, that is, that there isn't enough casual content in endwalker. those statistics prove my point for me! players are not engaging in side content in endwalker nearly to the extent that they are engaging in side-content in shadowbringers. "More people have completed older content than newer content." Yeah. That's probably gonna be the case a lot of the time. Out of sincere curiosity, what percentage of people should have to clear a piece of content for it to be worthy of being in the game?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:This is all well thought and and well said and I appreciate it but also you can easily rebuke Frida's points with krile krew doesn't do BA. so gently caress off with your incorrect assumptions.
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can everybody just loving quit it
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The big thing about the foray zones is that as soon as they become even the slightest bit outdated they become loving slogs, IMO. They're designed around the idea that there will be people running around and doing poo poo to make the area feel alive and the goals go by quickly, and when you don't have that mass of people they just loving suck and you're left running around grinding mettle/elemental levels on trash mobs. When this is brought up, the answer is always somebody running in to say "Get together with Krile Krew and they'll boost you through it!" but that's bullshit imo. If getting through the content in a reasonable amount of time/effort requires dedicating Saturdays to having ringers haul you through it, then it's bad content.
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Khizan posted:The big thing about the foray zones is that as soon as they become even the slightest bit outdated they become loving slogs, IMO. They're designed around the idea that there will be people running around and doing poo poo to make the area feel alive and the goals go by quickly, and when you don't have that mass of people they just loving suck and you're left running around grinding mettle/elemental levels on trash mobs. both forays are extremely active at pretty much all times on primal. of course, you'd have to actually enter the foray content to see that for yourself. was in southern front last night with 58 people in instance. was in an anemos on saturday night with 80 people.
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hexwren posted:can everybody just loving quit it
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Frida Call Me posted:both forays are extremely active at pretty much all times on primal. of course, you'd have to actually enter the foray content to see that for yourself. was in southern front last night with 58 people in instance. was in an anemos on saturday night with 80 people. What about the instances that aren't the first leg of 4 consecutive ones? Especially the big filter that is still Pagos?
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I just checked and there are ZERO players in eureka and bozja right now, on every server. What a joke
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:What about the instances that aren't the first leg of 4 consecutive ones? Especially the big filter that is still Pagos? pagos sees more people in-zone than anemos most nights. pyros is generally the least populated but also the fastest to get through because of quicker crystal returns and the added power of logos actions, and mutations/adapations giving triple XP to mob kills (that stacks with chain bonus, fairy buff and harmony potions). hydatos sees tons of action pretty much all of the time due to it being BA-adjacent and needing tons of crystals to finish relics. pagos with 200% echo isn't nearly as bad as it was on release. i legitimately enjoy helping people get through pagos.
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Martman posted:I just checked and there are ZERO players in eureka and bozja right now, on every server. What a joke Bozja has died at last, Zepla validated.
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Martman posted:I just checked and there are ZERO players in eureka and bozja right now, on every server. What a joke actually im in bozja rn
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Frida Call Me posted:both forays are extremely active at pretty much all times on primal. of course, you'd have to actually enter the foray content to see that for yourself. was in southern front last night with 58 people in instance. was in an anemos on saturday night with 80 people. 5 people is the maximum I've ever seen on my OCE servers and I was doing bozja quite a bit for levelling.
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I am hearing reports that Tupac Shakur is alive and well in Bozja.
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I interrupt this dumb argument to let you all know - PATCH IS UP - 2563 MB
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Lord_Magmar posted:5 people is the maximum I've ever seen on my OCE servers and I was doing bozja quite a bit for levelling. OCE servers are pretty low-population compared to JP and NA servers - can tell this just from the lack of congestion tagged servers across datacenters. fortunately, bozja scales pretty well at low player counts. the majority of skirmishes scale, all CEs do, and you can do CLL/DAL with minimum 2 people (and it's great fun with a group of 5-8 people with worthwhile actions & essences).
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Frida Call Me posted:OCE servers are pretty low-population compared to JP and NA servers - can tell this just from the lack of congestion tagged servers across datacenters. fortunately, bozja scales pretty well at low player counts. the majority of skirmishes scale, all CEs do, and you can do CLL/DAL with minimum 2 people (and it's great fun with a group of 5-8 people with worthwhile actions & essences). The point is that anecdotal evidence is purely anecdotal and it's going to be heavily server reliant. Importantly doing the actual storylines does become a slog if only 5 people are around imo, and 2 people to do Dalraida still requires 1 other person to want to do Dalraida at all. Also, also, worthwhile actions and essences represents knowing what to do with actions and essences (which yeah in a prebuilt group is fine, with randoms it is not). Edit: You really like the Foray zones and that's really cool, but I think that the inherent bias of liking them should be accounted for in evaluation. I think they're cool ideas implemented poorly, and a big part of that is how awful they feel if you don't have people around to help you.
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You've yet to answer my question. You've multiple times now touted achievement completion percentages as worthwhile metrics for comparing the value of in-game content. So what percentage of players need to have completed that content for it to be considered valuable to you? It seems like 45% completing a content questline means it is valuable, but 7.6% completing a further grind means it is not valuable. So what's the cutoff number?
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Mordiceius posted:You've yet to answer my question. You've multiple times now touted achievement completion percentages as worthwhile metrics for comparing the value of in-game content. i thought i made it clear i wasn't going to respond to your posts in my previous response to your posts.
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Frida Call Me posted:i thought i made it clear i wasn't going to respond to your posts in my previous response to your posts. But you're responding to their posts right now?????? (Sorry I couldn't stop the bit).
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Lord_Magmar posted:The point is that anecdotal evidence is purely anecdotal and it's going to be heavily server reliant. Importantly doing the actual storylines does become a slog if only 5 people are around imo, and 2 people to do Dalraida still requires 1 other person to want to do Dalraida at all. Also, also, worthwhile actions and essences represents knowing what to do with actions and essences (which yeah in a prebuilt group is fine, with randoms it is not). vast majority of the people posting in these threads are playing from NA servers so my anecdotal evidence carries more than weight than yours! i've had great luck with starting DRN party finder groups, requiring pure essences, and people are down to bring lost actions to make the run faster. you just have to communicate with them.
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Frida Call Me posted:i thought i made it clear i wasn't going to respond to your posts in my previous response to your posts. Sorry I called you out on your bad post. And for the record, you said - "45% of players have completed the save the queen storyline" Instead of comparing that to people doing floor 100 runs of Eureka Orthos, you should compare it to people who got the achievement for clearing floor 30 - which is the base story of the content - just like completing the "Save the Queen" quest. And you didn't do that because that number is 33% completion rate. Not too far off and that number will only go up over time. And so you also pointed out - "7.6% of players have cleared orthos up to floor 100 once" Well, that is something for the more "hardcore" players. Your average casual isn't doing that. So what's something worth comparing it to? Well I suggested comparing it to Delubrum Reginae (Savage), which is a 9.7% completion rate. Pretty similar. But that wasn't good enough for you because DRS requires a big group. How about we compare to the percentage of people who have completed duels in Bozja. That's a solo activity. So that's something we can compare to a floor 100 clear of Orthos. The Hypertuned Dabog duel has 1.8% completion rate. The Menenius sas Lanatus duel has a 2.2% completion rate. The Lyon the Beast King duel has a 2.0% completion rate. Sure seems like no one likes doing duels. By your very metric, the devs probably shouldn't waste any resources in designing duels for whatever the next foray is. They have such a low completion rate.
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as an FYI xivlauncher/dalamud doesn't handle the patch download well, you have to use the original launcher at the moment.
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On the flipside, the xivlauncher can potentially download the launcher update if the original launcher spits out an error.
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Joe Chip posted:Anybody have any good guides about maintaining GCD uptime on BLM? I am stuck around ~90% pretty consistently but I just can't seem to get above that. A lot of my downtime is just adjusting to mechanics/PF so maybe I just need to put in the hours? I would honestly recommend asking in the balance discord and sharing a good log. In my experience they've always been super helpful and have actually combed through some of my logs in detail to give advice. There's also fight specific chats which might have what you're looking for too.
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HackensackBackpack posted:They should just make a new colour mage that's like a weird colour. Platinum Mage. Our NPC mentor will be Bayonetta.
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Xun posted:I would honestly recommend asking in the balance discord and sharing a good log. In my experience they've always been super helpful and have actually combed through some of my logs in detail to give advice. There's also fight specific chats which might have what you're looking for too. I joined this and it seems like the current discussion is about what to do if you drop Enochian and what the mana cutoff is for F3/B3. This is exactly what I needed thank you. Just want to be clear no sarcasm here. I knew about the balance site but not the discord and this is a real game changer for me. Joe Chip fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Oct 3, 2023 |
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Kerrzhe posted:i could see them naming a new caster class the Witch That is Y'shola's custom class already.
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ImpAtom posted:That is Y'shola's custom class already. Isn't it Sorceress?
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I was able to do Eureka and Bozja content within the last year pretty consistently every weekday around 12PM CST during my lunch break. Maybe it's dried up a bit in the last month, but I'd say that's probably mogtomes taking all the attention. There were some dead days, sure, but that I was able to routinely find other people to play with in old content at that particular time was pretty wild to me. That's my anecdote, thank you.
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I think more content should be designed to be theoretically soloable. That way it turns from a dead end into a different kind of challenge. I'm never completely bummed out that I can't find a team for Eureka Orthos, because then I can just try to solo Eureka Orthos instead, which is also fun. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Oct 3, 2023 |
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 O gentle friend, share with me your bacon-scented wisdom
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What are y'all gonna do first when you login? My first goal is to catch up on the MSQ. I'll probably do Thaleia tomorrow so I can space things out. Maybe some PVP here and there. I'm assuming /slump will be the Rank 5 reward.
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