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TACD posted:and for absolutely no benefit. "We can sell advertising on them."
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Yeah but it's advertising that comes very directly at the cost of making it materially more difficult to actually make a purchase. It's absolutely bananas that you'd put an advert somewhere that blocks access to the actual product before putting them on the walls, on the windows, on the doors, on the carts, on lights projected from the ceiling, literally any other corporate psycho location you can think of. This method makes me think the next step is "well, people aren't engaging with our flashy new fridges, let's make them log in and complete a quick survey before unlocking the doors"
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Oct 3, 2023 17:04
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TACD posted:Yeah but it's advertising that comes very directly at the cost of making it materially more difficult to actually make a purchase. It's absolutely bananas that you'd put an advert somewhere that blocks access to the actual product before putting them on the walls, on the windows, on the doors, on the carts, on lights projected from the ceiling, literally any other corporate psycho location you can think of. You joke, but I guarantee that the thought process involved meant that the Walgreens marketing people didn't actually care whether people opened the doors to buy something, because that's not what they're being judged by. Nor did they care that the stock counts were incorrect, because obviously that's the store's fault, not theirs. Just monumental galaxy brained horse poo poo, which is why I expect to see them roll out elsewhere.
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Oct 3, 2023 17:06
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Even with glass fridge doors I see people opening them all the time just to look in even though they can see through. If people are going to open glass doors to peak inside then you might as well just mount tvs on the door for advertising. Is probably what I would say if I was an mba.
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Oct 3, 2023 17:09
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I count my macros so yeah if I can't easily get calories / carbs / protein then I'm gonna have to open that boi up.
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Oct 3, 2023 17:13
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TACD posted:Yeah but it's advertising that comes very directly at the cost of making it materially more difficult to actually make a purchase. It's absolutely bananas that you'd put an advert somewhere that blocks access to the actual product before putting them on the walls, on the windows, on the doors, on the carts, on lights projected from the ceiling, literally any other corporate psycho location you can think of. It doesn't block access to the actual product. People can still open the door. From the perspective of an advertiser, who typically does not consider advertising to be inconvenient or disruptive, these advertising doors actually make it easier to access the product. Instead of having to get up close and look at the shelves through the door, customers can see giant oversized lit-up pictures of the products (the ones the advertiser would prefer you to buy, anyway) in crisp HD, easily visible from a distance. There are various inconveniences involved, and plenty of edge cases where the system is totally poo poo, but the advertisers typically aren't thinking about those kinds of practical implementation issues in too much detail, and the retail/grocery execs think getting paid to show ads will more than make up for any losses.
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Oct 3, 2023 17:13
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Main Paineframe posted:It doesn't block access to the actual product. People can still open the door. these doors do block access because i wont be opening every door to hunt for the one door with what i want behind it, like im not going to treasure hunt like im on some game show for ~hidden eggs~ like a week ago the doors were like lit-up dancing advertising skeletons, not crispy hd pictures of whats inside
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Oct 3, 2023 18:23
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atriptothebeach posted:like a week ago the doors were like lit-up dancing advertising skeletons, not crispy hd pictures of whats inside This close to being conscripted into the skeleton war
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Oct 3, 2023 18:30
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atriptothebeach posted:these doors do block access because i wont be opening every door to hunt for the one door with what i want behind it, like im not going to treasure hunt like im on some game show for ~hidden eggs~ Well, yeah, marketing loving everything up because they're not thinking about how people actually use the poo poo the advertising is plastered all over is far for the course. But in theory, at the point that these doors are being sold to companies, this is the kind of thing they're being sold on (from Cooler Screens' own website):  That's what the people making the purchasing decisions are imagining - doors that show pretty much everything in the cooler, except with constant "BUY OUR poo poo" popups whizzing around trying desperately to draw shoppers' eyes to the cooler. They've even got different ad sizes that are set to run based on how close someone is to the door. The little popups shown there are intended to run when someone's near the door, and they have full-door ads that run when the closest person is more than a certain distance away. Of course, in the end it's up to the company's own marketing department to actually make stuff to put on the doors, and that's a massive amount of extra work for them, so in practice you just get absolute poo poo for ads instead.
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Oct 3, 2023 18:36
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Can these freezer doors mine bitcoins?
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Oct 3, 2023 18:43
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withak posted:Can these freezer doors mine bitcoins? How do I get a hold of a ceo of a food retailer to pitch the idea of selling hot ready to eat food inside containers kept warm by buttcoin mining? Imagine selling rotisserie chicken kept warm from buttcoin miners while advertising to people on the screen mounted door.
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Oct 3, 2023 18:47
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Main Paineframe posted:Well, yeah, marketing loving everything up because they're not thinking about how people actually use the poo poo the advertising is plastered all over is far for the course. No one buying a DiGiorno wants to be reminded of the terrible nutritional content.
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Oct 3, 2023 18:48
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Main Paineframe posted:Well, yeah, marketing loving everything up because they're not thinking about how people actually use the poo poo the advertising is plastered all over is far for the course. Wait. They are actually whizzing around? like rapid movement? Are they seriously making a door sized tv screen that spends its time trying to give me seizures? Also the idea of displaying a pristine product version and then giving people the utter letdown of seeing the product post-delivery has got to be a net negative for the sales figures. It's one thing to see a product on the shelf just below a huge image of a perfect version. It's another thing entirely to open a door in order to see the pathetic ersatz version of the advertised product. Like a Christmas calendar of suck.
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Oct 3, 2023 18:50
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SerthVarnee posted:Wait. They are actually whizzing around? like rapid movement? It's just the popups, the whizzing around is just their way of keeping the frame from one perspective / store front. Also lol at a massive temperature on the door. "DID YOU FORGET WHAT TEMPERATURE IT WAS BEFORE YOU CAME INTO THE STORE? WE GOT YOU"
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Oct 3, 2023 18:55
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My Walgreens just covers all the doors with videos of Coke bottles dripping sweat and makes it impossible to tell what is in any of the fridges unless you either open the door and look or be a total maniac in public and stand extremely close to the door and stare until the ad is done playing. If it detects a close face when the ad is over, it will trigger the screen to go clear.
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Oct 3, 2023 18:58
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This answer comforts me a lot less than you might think. Even advertising banners along the edge of football stadiums can be a massive detriment to me when the background of the otherwise static ad switches between 3 garish colors over a period of 2 seconds. Pulsating objects, subtly, yet somewhat rapidly, changing lights while displays zooms in and out will just send me straight to nausea/migraine land. I suppose its an easy way to choose where to shop. "Seizure land or slightly more pricey store. hmmmmm"
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Oct 3, 2023 19:00
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Chronojam posted:Is there ever any expectation that a paper map will update, though? Like, it never pops up a survey to ask how the directions were, nobody ever submits corrections via instant-delivery form for a paper map, there's no way to tap it and claim ownership of a building shown. Probably late on this but paper navigation charts for ships absolutely are updated and annotated that they have been updated thru the most recent notice to mariners week and year.
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Oct 3, 2023 19:18
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I dunno about anybody else, but SerthVarnee exists in my goon headcanon to remind everybody that seizures can be triggered by surprisingly mundane stuff. And with that in mind, the natural, illogical conclusion of all this is yes: a pharmacy is going to install displays that will cause seizures. The late-night talk show comedy bit about it has already written itself.
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Oct 3, 2023 19:28
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Oh yeah, my local pharmacy has a bigass screen showing ads. This would a negligible concern if it wasn't for the fact that the screen is placed... about 1 meter in front of the only sitting/resting location in the venue. So enjoy standing around grandpa, your hip may be hosed but your seizures can always gently caress them up more.
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Oct 3, 2023 19:35
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It's genuinely upsetting when you think how much lower the planets demand for energy would be if you weren't lighting up giant fuckoff video billboards to advertise poo poo that nobody needs
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Oct 3, 2023 19:41
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Thanks Ants posted:It's genuinely upsetting when you think how much lower the planets demand for energy would be if you weren't lighting up giant fuckoff video billboards to advertise poo poo that nobody needs
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Oct 3, 2023 19:48
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The biggest sources of energy demand are heating, residential electricity, and transportation. All of Las Vegas is basically 0.000001% of the energy demand of a day of residential electric requirements.
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Oct 3, 2023 19:55
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I dunno about anybody else, but SerthVarnee exists in my goon headcanon to remind everybody that seizures can be triggered by surprisingly mundane stuff. Since audio triggers are a thing, it is honestly quite likely that someone risks having a seizure every time they hear a specific Christmas song. One that is played all the time. Every year. Everywhere in the US.
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Oct 3, 2023 20:08
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Isn't it incredibly rare to actually get seizures from flashing lights? It is commonly stereotyped as something that happens to all epileptics, but google is telling me that only 3% of epileptics (who are 1.2% of the population) are susceptible to it at all. Which means about 0.03% of people are susceptible at all and a portion of that 0.03% is only going to be susceptible to very specific or high-frequency flashes. So, as annoying as those doors are, they aren't going to be causing frequent seizures among people just walking into a Walgreens.
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Oct 3, 2023 20:21
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Isn't it incredibly rare to actually get seizures from flashing lights? It is commonly stereotyped as something that happens to all epileptics, but google is telling me that only 3% of epileptics (who are 1.2% of the population) are susceptible to it at all. Which means about 0.03% of people are susceptible at all and a portion of that 0.03% is only going to be susceptible to very specific or high-frequency flashes. Yup, I am lucky enough to be a very rare breed of fragile. 1 in 4000 of the world's population is photo-sensitive enough to get the fancy seizures. The migraines and nausea can be a lot more common though. In all, 1 in 26 people will have 2 or more seizures sometime during their life. This is what signifies the official designation of being epileptic. The tricky part here is that once your brain gets good at seizure having (and it will once you start getting them), the bar gets lower and lower for what constitutes a seizure trigger. In vast portions of the world, a situation like Walgreens having fancy flashing lights isn't an issue because the special brain issue having person can go to a different store, but in less developed countries like the US, a huge number of communities have a choice between one store or driving a couple of hours to go to a different store. Guess who can't legally drive for up to 6 months after having had a seizure. As long as public transportation exists or people in general have the time and energy to drive a neighbor to a destination a couple of hours away just to help them go shopping, that isn't too big of a hurdle. SerthVarnee fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 3, 2023 |
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Oct 3, 2023 20:38
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Vegetable posted:It wouldn’t be much lower. You’re just latching on to the most visible thing you see. light pollution at night would be better and the health of wild life and local astronomers would be better. also lol at that demo video clip's prices.0 . 99$ single cans hasnt been a thing in years. thanks Dark Biden.
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Oct 3, 2023 20:46
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I kind of wonder if Walgreens already has something that can trigger. Does anybody else here have a Walgreens where they have that extra security stuff that constantly clacks and chirps? Around here in Austin, there will usually be one or two aisles like this that are just clicking, beeping, clacking, and chirping from whatever the hell they're using. I'm not susceptible to seizures, but it does a great job of melting my brain and derailing my thought process while I'm trying to find stuff.
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SerthVarnee posted:Yup, I am lucky enough to be a very rare breed of fragile. I recently found out that the prevalance of my weird eye condition is less than one in a million. Like winning an extremely poo poo lottery.
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Oct 3, 2023 20:55
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On the upside, you get to be a patient of special interest to medical professionals. On the downside, your condition is rare enough that medical practitioners don't know what the gently caress and might just spout bullshit to not appear clueless.
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Oct 3, 2023 20:57
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SerthVarnee posted:On the upside, you get to be a patient of special interest to medical professionals. I got my DNA sequenced, that was fun! And I have lucked into a medical team who will cheerfully go 'we don't really know, there isn't the data' if they don't know something. So it could be worse I guess.
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Oct 3, 2023 21:09
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PhazonLink posted:light pollution at night would be better and the health of wild life and local astronomers would be better. If you're talking about outdoor billboards many of those were lit up in the past with upwards facing lights - no idea if the modern screens emit less light or not. For the fridge screens, which I assume are indoors, I would be curious if the energy cost of the screen is lower than the energy cost of always on lights inside the fridges plus the cost of increased refrigeration due to losses through the glass.
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SerthVarnee posted:In vast portions of the world, a situation like Walgreens having fancy flashing lights isn't an issue because the special brain issue having person can go to a different store, but in less developed countries like the US, a huge number of communities have a choice between one store or driving a couple of hours to go to a different store. Guess who can't legally drive for up to 6 months after having had a seizure. Extremely few people live in places that remote. You have to be way out in the thinly populated rural boonies for there to only be one store within a two-hour drive.
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Doctor why are my eyes still blurry, even though the pink eye is gone? "You had conjunctivitis, but that's actually all cleared up. The problem is that your immune system is still very riled up and is grabbing on to random stuff in your eye. Normally this is harmless, but in your case it's clotting directly in the center of your vision. A hairs width away in any direction and you wouldn't even see it!" Cool. Loved spending years explaining to eye doctors that no, actually, I have to take these steroid eye drops because of a clotting thing, no, I know you don't believe me, just give me the yellow eyedrops and look. Yep, that's it, thank you for the apology but please just give me a contact lens prescription. Fortunately it cleared up after like 3-4 years but still sucked having to deal with, and even today I can tell I'm getting stressed out when my eyes start getting a little blurry. Thanks eyes. Theyes. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Oct 3, 2023 |
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Oct 3, 2023 21:51
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Mercury Ballistic posted:Probably late on this but paper navigation charts for ships absolutely are updated and annotated that they have been updated thru the most recent notice to mariners week and year. here's a cool article about how complicated and involved making charts/maps of oceans/seas is: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230929-can-a-map-of-the-ocean-floor-be-crowdsourced
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Main Paineframe posted:Extremely few people live in places that remote. You have to be way out in the thinly populated rural boonies for there to only be one store within a two-hour drive. Oh. Well I'm very glad to have been way off the mark on that one. Thanks for the correction!
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SerthVarnee posted:Oh. Well I'm very glad to have been way off the mark on that one. Thanks for the correction! Especially because it's very common for one chain to want parity with another chain, so you'll get things like a Rite Aid, Walgreens, and CVS all within about a block of each other.
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https://gizmodo.com/zume-softbank-ai-pizza-delivery-stellar-pizza-1850529465 Chapter 11, after conning perennial marks like Softbank and others for almost half a billion I like the part where they gave up and made pizzas in the truck and dispatched them out. Really innovating the pizza scene there. Who would've thought making pizzas ina moving vehicle was a bad idea? It's like they've never seen a comedy witha pizza delivery scene before
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Mister Facetious posted:https://gizmodo.com/zume-softbank-ai-pizza-delivery-stellar-pizza-1850529465 Hey, just found out I can actually visit gizmodo.com again and not their lovely localised version which only had about 5% of the articles of the main site and wouldn't let you change your region. Man, gently caress localised versions of sites.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Hey, just found out I can actually visit gizmodo.com again and not their lovely localised version which only had about 5% of the articles of the main site and wouldn't let you change your region. gently caress customized content in general. Give the end user the ability to filter it themselves.
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