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pentyne posted:you will never believe what the army mode was modeled after lol it's basically 1:1 isn't it
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Pattonesque posted:lol it's basically 1:1 isn't it Owlcat IS Russian, after all.
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Pattonesque posted:lol it's basically 1:1 isn't it That may have been the plan but things like "balance" and "unit versatility" weren't part of the design evilmiera posted:It will be interesting to see how character creation pans out. The origins and defining backstory bits are what intrigue me mainly, but I also want to see how badly I can break the game. Not knowing how crazy it will get late game it definitely seems like you can easily break combat by speccing to give yourself the most actions in melee. Tactics and strategy for the game being based on the 'momentum' means that enough kills quick really give you an advantage comparable to heavy pre-fight buffs had that been an option.
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Owlcat are literally the guys who made HoMM5, after leaving Nival.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Owlcat are literally the guys who made HoMM5, after leaving Nival. Which makes it even more crazy that they thought the game should ship with the hommode. Even now, years after release and tons of patches later I get 10 fights deep on the map, remember how tedious the system is and mod it out. WotR is awesome to play so why they keep saddling their RPGs with poo poo management systems is beyond me.
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CommunityEdition posted:Owlcat IS Russian, after all. They're based in Cyprus, though?
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chainchompz posted:They're based in Cyprus, though? Everything Russian is, for financial reasons.
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chainchompz posted:They're based in Cyprus, though? Cyprus is known as Moscow-on-the-Med for good reason.
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chainchompz posted:They're based in Cyprus, though? Things have changed pretty significantly since the war started, they managed to relocate all of their finances and operations to avoid getting hit under sanctions and trade restrictions.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Owlcat are literally the guys who made HoMM5, after leaving Nival. Which is why it's even more baffling that Wrath's crusade mode was so utterly and completely lovely, given that HoMM5 was probably the second best HoMM game.
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Well poo poo, today I learned something. Either way can't wait for this to get full release.
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Kanos posted:Which is why it's even more baffling that Wrath's crusade mode was so utterly and completely lovely, given that HoMM5 was probably the second best HoMM game. they stretch themselves insanely thin on the PF games, scope and feature creep got way out of hand plus having to make good on all the extra promises for exceeding the fundraising goals on Kickstarter. The campaign stuff probably got the worst of it.
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More and more I'm becoming aware of the fact that what I really want to be doing with my time is playing the release version of this game.
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Cynic Jester posted:Which makes it even more crazy that they thought the game should ship with the hommode. Even now, years after release and tons of patches later I get 10 fights deep on the map, remember how tedious the system is and mod it out. WotR is awesome to play so why they keep saddling their RPGs with poo poo management systems is beyond me. Kanos posted:Which is why it's even more baffling that Wrath's crusade mode was so utterly and completely lovely, given that HoMM5 was probably the second best HoMM game.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yeah no clue. Only thing that makes sense is they just scope creeped themselves into something unworkable. There's a dev interview with how the mythic system developed, and it went from the lead dev setting the goal at 4, to ballooning to 12, before finally getting dropped down to 6 after several back and forth arguments, with the Act 5 'prestige' versions getting a small handful of unique content, one of which Devil is literally just a series of conversations and a boss fight.
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Kanos posted:Which is why it's even more baffling that Wrath's crusade mode was so utterly and completely lovely, given that HoMM5 was probably the second best HoMM game. gently caress you mean, "second best" ? It smoked a blunt rolled out of HoMM 3's ashes. That's just a strict, indisputable, hard scientific fact.
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Kobal2 posted:gently caress you mean, "second best" ? It smoked a blunt rolled out of HoMM 3's ashes. That's just a strict, indisputable, hard scientific fact. It's also just not as good as Horn of the Abyss, so it's still 2nd place.
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Cynic Jester posted:Which makes it even more crazy that they thought the game should ship with the hommode. Even now, years after release and tons of patches later I get 10 fights deep on the map, remember how tedious the system is and mod it out. WotR is awesome to play so why they keep saddling their RPGs with poo poo management systems is beyond me. You have to understand something : East european gamers live, eat, breathe HoMM-likes (also Jagged Alliance, but that's another discussion). When NWC released HoMM 3, something *shifted* out there. Or was abruptly swung back into its proper, aeon-awaited alignment maybe. The echoing waves of that day are still rippling. I'm sure there's Hungarian-dubbed HoMM porn out there. It's really no coincidence at all that all of the recent HoMMs were from Russian studios ; as were the new King's Bounties ; or that the re-makers of Master of Magic are Polish. Kobal2 fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Eifert Posting posted:More and more I'm becoming aware of the fact that what I really want to be doing with my time is playing the release version of this game. Same here; gaming-wise, it feels like I'm just spinning my wheels until RT releases. BG3, Cyberpunk, Wrath of the Righteous, various Fallout games- it's all just there to occupy my spare time until Rogue Trader releases  Kobal2 posted:You have to understand something : East european gamers live, eat, breathe HoMM-likes (also Jagged Alliance, but that's another discussion). When NWC released HoMM 3, something *shifted* out there. Or was abruptly swung back into its proper, aeon-awaited alignment maybe. The echoing waves of that day are still rippling. I'm sure there's Hungarian-dubbed HoMM porn out there. IIRC people are still playing HoMM3 multiplayer in Eastern Europe; I've caught glimpses of streamers playing it coming up in my YT recs. Also, as an aside, I really don't think the MoM remake was all that good, if anyone else is on the fence. It's basically the old game with a slightly glossier reskin.
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I remain very curious as to what the final state of psykers will be in the release game. The beta is so sparse with them, and virtually none of the story beats are developed, but there's tons of Stuff buried in the files that has presumably been developed. I want my pyromancy so bad. 
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SpaceDrake posted:I remain very curious as to what the final state of psykers will be in the release game. The beta is so sparse with them, and virtually none of the story beats are developed, but there's tons of Stuff buried in the files that has presumably been developed. I do hope they don't tie powers to equipment; that was one of the things I disliked about the beta I played. It's odd, since from what I can remember the alpha's psyker powers worked like they did in the tabletop game, and I'm not sure why Owlcat decided to tweak things for the beta.
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CommissarMega posted:It's basically the old game with a slightly glossier reskin. Hmm sounds good to me! How's it compare to the age of wonders series? Those always felt very similar to masters of magic to me.
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Molybdenum posted:Hmm sounds good to me! Honestly? Very badly. Once you get over the nostalgia hit, it becomes increasingly obvious just how much TBS games have progressed since the original MoM. About the only change the devs made apart from the graphics is that the map is hex-based instead of tile-based. Other than that? Nothing. No culture stuff like Civ does, no character-based developments like Crusader Kings, only 4 rival wizards max so bigger maps feel empty- it just feels so basic to play.
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My biggest concern is that they don't greatly expand the open universe//colonization stuff. It's what I had the most fun with during the beta and what I'm most excited about for release. If it turns out the beta already had most or all of that content I'm going to be super bummed.
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Eifert Posting posted:My biggest concern is that they don't greatly expand the open universe//colonization stuff. It's what I had the most fun with during the beta and what I'm most excited about for release. If it turns out the beta already had most or all of that content I'm going to be super bummed. There's usually some late game stuff added in with the full release, but I doubt the version as it exists now will change much for most of a playthrough. I would assume, if like the mythic path in WOTR, going Heretical will give you an entirely different set of options and possibilities for the colony stuff. pentyne fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Oct 16, 2023 |
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Hoped into the beta to see how the game feels. Can't tell if the constant frame rate dips are specific to anything, but I'm like 2 generations above the recommended settings(1050 vs my 3060Ti) so that must be a owlcat problem. Definitely getting the vibe of wanting a build guide for everyone as there are so many moving parts to combat it is very hard trying to trial and error everything. I checked the reddit page but it's a ton of people getting really mad about romances for some reason.
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sebmojo posted:Has the beta been updated much? Last fix was 6 days ago. It still looks like it's a year out from final build.
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sebmojo posted:Has the beta been updated much? It just recently got one final update with a number of fixes, but it remains the same content that was pushed when it launched. There won't be a "content update" until the full game releases in December. 52 days!
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pentyne posted:There's usually some late game stuff added in with the full release, but I doubt the version as it exists now will change much for most of a playthrough. I really want there to be a Benevolentia path that's essentially an extra hard mode tacked on because the 40k universe eats good people for breakfast. Still doable, of course, but just a whole lot harder.
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SpaceDrake posted:52 days! Which is 53 days too long!  evilmiera posted:I really want there to be a Benevolentia path that's essentially an extra hard mode tacked on because the 40k universe eats good people for breakfast. Honestly, I kind of want the Imperialis route to be this, with the prospect of the 'best' ending as a reward. Pain cleanses the body as faith cleanses the soul, after all 
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I have been wondering what the endings etc. are going to look like, and precisely where Benevolentia is going exactly. It appears to be associated (surprisingly) with the senechal and probably a few other characters. There's going to be a portion of the playerbase that has Ideas about what, exactly, a 40K Game Should Be, and I've been wondering if Owlcat is bold and confident enough at this point to buck those expectations and in what ways.
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SpaceDrake posted:I have been wondering what the endings etc. are going to look like, and precisely where Benevolentia is going exactly. It appears to be associated (surprisingly) with the senechal and probably a few other characters. There's going to be a portion of the playerbase that has Ideas about what, exactly, a 40K Game Should Be, and I've been wondering if Owlcat is bold and confident enough at this point to buck those expectations and in what ways. The reddit page, from a brief glance, is tearing itself apart arguing about romance options so debating the exact level of grimdark isn't even a priority yet.
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Kobal2 posted:You have to understand something : East european gamers live, eat, breathe HoMM-likes (also Jagged Alliance, but that's another discussion). When NWC released HoMM 3, something *shifted* out there. Or was abruptly swung back into its proper, aeon-awaited alignment maybe. The echoing waves of that day are still rippling. I'm sure there's Hungarian-dubbed HoMM porn out there. I've known/heard about this for years but - at the risk of a slight derail - why? Like is there a good write-up or whatever on why the gently caress Eastern Europe just fell in love with HOMM3? I mean, granted, it's an amazing game so they are showing it the rightful reverence it deserves, but why only there lol?
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I've known/heard about this for years but - at the risk of a slight derail - why? Like is there a good write-up or whatever on why the gently caress Eastern Europe just fell in love with HOMM3? I mean, granted, it's an amazing game so they are showing it the rightful reverence it deserves, but why only there lol? From what I've heard, it was a combination of HoMM 3 being one of the few Western games that managed to get a localization in post-Soviet Eastern Europe, was easily cracked, could run on the potato computers that people in the region had, and was also light enough on bandwidth usage to be one of the few games where people in the region could actually play multiplayer games (being a TBS and all). IIRC there's also enough people from the region still streaming the game to this day, which keeps its popularity up. Jack Trades posted:Speaking of which, do we know what they are? IIRC, the options are (spoiling to be safe): Cassia (straight male romance) Heinrik (straight female romance) Jae (bi) Yrliet (bi, but platonic, i.e. no heretical xenobanging for you, heretic) Dracon Marazhai (gay male romance) Not sure if there's an exclusively lesbian romance. Honestly, I'm kind of with the redditors on this one; no lesbian romance I can think of, and having the sole gay male romance be a Drukhari is all kinds of  if you ask me.
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CommissarMega posted:IIRC, the options are (spoiling to be safe): Not enough heresy.
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