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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:tourists do that in lots of different places Do not under any circumstances allow the western media to visit the old imperial city and palace in Seoul, where genocide happens everyday. We must also tear down old west cosplay exhibits and force the inhabitants of west Texas and Arizona to return to their traditional culture of dying of dysentery and eating boiled beans on the range
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Oct 4, 2023 06:57
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FrancisFukyomama posted:Did that guy have moment of self reflection there or did he just conclude that she must be a ccp plant there is no time for self-reflection, the fight against ccp genocides is too important
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Oct 4, 2023 08:13
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/ABSCBNNews/status/1709378788038176879?t=2f4CF71PxwopVDpGiOLC8Q&s=19 oh look: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/04/23/pcg-names-ship-likely-involved-in-scarborough-collision  nothing to do with China after all
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Oct 4, 2023 08:34
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I live in a mud brick / adobe house, with some other stuff like regular bricks, lime, and wall paint added over. The outer walls are roughly half a meter thick and It offers very good isolation throughout the year.
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Oct 4, 2023 08:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:oh look: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/04/23/pcg-names-ship-likely-involved-in-scarborough-collision if anyone wants to read smug idiots blaming China for this, Reddit has you covered https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/16zbl1w/philippines_says_three_fishermen_killed_after/
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Oct 4, 2023 09:09
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adobe bricks are really nice for self regulating temperature.
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Oct 4, 2023 09:16
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Trabisnikof posted:if anyone wants to read smug idiots blaming China for this, Reddit has you covered https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/16zbl1w/philippines_says_three_fishermen_killed_after/ saw that and didn't bother clicking through.
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Oct 4, 2023 09:16
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And this is why China needs to stop being gigantic bullies and jerks in those waters. It leads to tensions where even routine stupid collisions in very crowded waters are instantly assumed to be hostile actions. If this had been a Chinese ship that had been struck, the Chinese would have instantly reacted the same way and they would have started howling for blood before the facts were known. Until China dials down the aggression, this area is a powder keg that they have created and sparks are flying every day. Today's mishap was another spark and everybody is lucky that the shooting didn't start. It's up to the Chinese to stop this and dial back the tension.
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Oct 4, 2023 09:21
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The US is getting out its dice.
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Oct 4, 2023 09:23
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Was that fish boat even close to Scarborough Shoal or the news dudes just added that to the headline?Bald Stalin posted:And this is why China needs to stop being gigantic bullies and jerks in those waters. It leads to tensions where even routine stupid collisions in very crowded waters are instantly assumed to be hostile actions. If this had been a Chinese ship that had been struck, the Chinese would have instantly reacted the same way and they would have started howling for blood before the facts were known. Are you reposting a reddit post or something?
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Oct 4, 2023 10:00
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Bad news for China - China is far too big and also almost certainly too hostile to take the route of mass immigration. https://www.ft.com/content/ce4d61cf-43de-4342-8745-70474df1a2a2 Can China overcome its demographic deficit? Martin Wolf YESTERDAY How big a role will China’s demographics play in its economic prospects? Inescapably, a big one. Indeed, it must be one of the most important factors in determining China’s economic prospects. Even if there remains good potential for output per worker to rise, because China is a relatively poor country, a declining population and workforce will slow the growth of the economy. So, what might this mean for its future? Start with the fundamentals. UN data shows that the average number of children born to each woman in China has plummeted from an average of six in the 1950s and 1960s to an average of 1.7 in the 2000s and 2010s. In the 2020s so far, it is down to 1.2, slightly below Japan’s, though above South Korea’s. A plausible explanation is that urbanisation leads to a sharp decline in the desire for children, especially among educated women. China’s now abandoned one-child policy accelerated its transition to low fertility and also created a huge problem of gender imbalance: according to the US census bureau, the ratio of boys to girls at birth peaked at 118 to 100 in 2005. But the fertility decline would ultimately have happened anyway. Even China’s mighty state cannot force people to have children they do not want. (See charts.) As a result, China’s population is being transformed, on multiple dimensions. According to the (relatively conservative) UN medium projections, it will shrink from 1.425bn in 2020 to 1.313bn in 2050. China’s share of world population will also fall, from 22 per cent in 1980 to 18 per cent in 2020 and 14 per cent in 2050. But India’s share is forecast to be 17 per cent by 2050. More important than this, striking though it is, is the change in the age composition of the population. While the overall population is forecast to shrink by 113mn between 2020 and 2050, the number of people over 65 will rise, according to these projections, by 215mn, while the number of those below the age of 20 will shrink by 137mn and those between 20 and 64 will shrink by 191mn. As a result, those over 65 will jump from 13 to 30 per cent of the population. Those aged under 20 will shrink from 24 to 15 per cent and those aged 20 to 64 from 64 to 55 per cent. By 2100, suggests the UN, the share of the over-65s will be an astonishing 41 per cent of the population. This would be a country just full of old men and women. Is this going to be manageable? Two possible ways out can be ignored. China is far too big and also almost certainly too hostile to take the route of mass immigration. Again, even if the fertility ratio could be raised substantially and soon, it would not have any effect on the working-age population in less than 20 years and not much effect for many years after that: children take a long time to reach maturity. Moreover, even if the fertility rate were indeed raised, remember that there are far fewer women of child-bearing age than there were decades ago. Three decades of fertility below replacement, plus that hugely socially destructive bias in favour of males, have reshaped the demographic present. Two relevant options do, however, exist: internal migration and later retirement. UBS argues that reductions in the labour force due to ageing can be more than offset, at least over this decade, by moving workers from the still-large farm population and by raising the retirement age. The hukou system, which controls internal migration and leaves many Chinese second-class citizens where they live, will have to be abolished. That is both economically essential and socially just. Moreover, at present, the retirement age is still 60 for men, 55 for white-collar women and 50 for women working in factories. These ages can and must be raised. In addition, note that China’s most embarrassing problem today is high youth unemployment, so much so that the data is no longer published. That indicates too little demand for labour, not those dreaded labour shortages, at least today. Also, even in 2050 the dependency ratio will be well below where it was in 1950. The difference, of course, is that back then the dependants were children, not parents. Yet bringing up and educating children is also expensive. One of the reasons we are so much more concerned about the former than the latter is surely that our children are more valuable to most of us. Children are also, of course, the future and the aged the past. In addition, a country top-heavy with the old will have lower educational standards and be less dynamic than one dominated by the young. What is clear is that with the population of working age forecast to shrink at an average rate of 0.8 per cent from 2020 to 2050, 0.5 percentage points faster than the overall population, the rise in gross domestic product per head will be that much slower than that of GDP per worker, and GDP growth will be slower still. Nevertheless, if output per worker rises fast enough, growth in GDP per head could still be quite swift. Moreover, this is not at all impossible, because productivity is so far below levels in countries closer to today’s technological frontier. Indeed, China is in fact showing quite a bit of innovation — just look at electric vehicles. Yet sceptics are right that this is not going to happen without a great deal of reform. The structural issues I discussed last week will have to be overcome. In addition to the reforms to internal migration and retirement outlined above, it will be essential to raise the educational standards of the young people they have, as well as encourage the most innovative economy possible. It will also be necessary to overcome the external constraints. Will Xi Jinping’s state be able to meet such big challenges? That is a big question, to which I will return.
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Oct 4, 2023 10:01
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stephenthinkpad posted:Was that fish boat even close to Scarborough Shoal or the news dudes just added that to the headline? Good news for the curiosity of stephenthinkpad - Either (i) Bald Stalin is reposting the Reddit post of Reddit poster Homers_Harp, or (ii) Bald Stalin is Reddit poster Homers_Harp cross-posting to the SomethingAwful forums. 
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Oct 4, 2023 10:04
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lmao
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Oct 4, 2023 10:18
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Called it!
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Oct 4, 2023 10:30
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"it's China's fault that I assumed it was China absent any evidence" glad I walked away from that site. Four months clean!
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Oct 4, 2023 10:31
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Well someone did a journalism and I won't have it! 
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Oct 4, 2023 11:18
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oh so it was the evil seeseepee that planted that SS nazi in canada
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Oct 4, 2023 11:30
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Palladium posted:oh so it was the evil seeseepee that planted that SS nazi in canada Son, you have a bright future here at the National Post
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Oct 4, 2023 11:32
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okay but why does china need mass immigration? what if the labor market tightening meant that wages rose and workers had more leverage?? the idea that you constantly need a stream of new workers flooding in to keep exploitation growing is such a bourgeois way of looking at things, that you even hear many western leftists parrot. and then for most liberals immigration can only be viewed through the lens of racial politics, because economics have been completely depoliticized in their minds.
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Oct 4, 2023 11:37
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Mantis42 posted:okay but why does china need mass immigration? what if the labor market tightening meant that wages rose and workers had more leverage?? the idea that you constantly need a stream of new workers flooding in to keep exploitation growing is such a bourgeois way of looking at things, that you even hear many western leftists parrot. and then for most liberals immigration can only be viewed through the lens of racial politics, because economics have been completely depoliticized in their minds. CIA brain jars squaring "china collapsing because too much youth unemployment" on "china collapsing because not enough workers"
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Oct 4, 2023 11:39
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Automation is going to replace 150 million jobs in China but they need n+2% workers to take the new jobs that will definitely be created. Only expand, never contract.
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Oct 4, 2023 11:44
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crepeface posted:lol yeah. Ya that's spot on. White people treat Asia like a zoo. There's a well known phenomenon among expats in Japan where certain Europeans and Americans will treat other expats with hostility because it's "My Japan". They can't imagine that Japan is a real society that attracts other people for their own reasons and not a sandbox game made just for them. PhilippAchtel has issued a correction as of 11:55 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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Oct 4, 2023 11:53
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Mantis42 posted:okay but why does china need mass immigration? what if the labor market tightening meant that wages rose and workers had more leverage?? the idea that you constantly need a stream of new workers flooding in to keep exploitation growing is such a bourgeois way of looking at things, that you even hear many western leftists parrot. and then for most liberals immigration can only be viewed through the lens of racial politics, because economics have been completely depoliticized in their minds. Look, if you're faced with a shrinking working age population and massive youth unemployment, two problems that are entirely independent from each other, you'll have to do something radical. I hear austerity will help.
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Oct 4, 2023 11:54
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gradenko_2000 posted:oh look: https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/04/23/pcg-names-ship-likely-involved-in-scarborough-collision Well that's a relief. Hopefully the full details are reported widely enough that all interested parties are able to get an accurate picture of what happened (lmao)
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Oct 4, 2023 11:54
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genericnick posted:Look, if you're faced with a shrinking working age population and massive youth unemployment, two problems that are entirely independent from each other, you'll have to do something radical. I hear austerity will help. What are you gonna do, not immiserate the youth?
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Oct 4, 2023 12:05
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it's time to privatize the youth
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Oct 4, 2023 12:05
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You need constant growth to make up for constantly shrinking profit margins, or else the economy dies, or you can keep charging more for cheeseburgers bc what are you gonna do not eat cheeseburgers?
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Oct 4, 2023 12:31
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Neurolimal posted:Getting flashbacks to the guy in the China thread who quizzed a a lady in Xinjiang on how much brutal repression she must be under, and she essentially said "sir this is a bus tour" My favorite one of those was someone posting about the government always having constant surveillance and the video posted was clearly of a teen glaring at their parents because they were goofing off in a vlog.
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Oct 4, 2023 12:46
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learning about asia is so fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_spot
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Oct 4, 2023 13:42
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quote:The slate grey nevus is referred to in the Japanese idiom shiri ga aoi (尻が青い), meaning "to have a blue butt",[35][36] which is a reference to immaturity or inexperience. gonna start using this
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Oct 4, 2023 13:48
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Oct 4, 2023 13:53
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I like the interpretation that it's caused by Guanyin kicking babies outta the womb
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Oct 4, 2023 14:59
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Zodium posted:it's time to privatize the youth youth privates you say?
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Oct 4, 2023 15:26
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youth.privatized.au Use my code "VINCENT"
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Oct 4, 2023 15:35
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crepeface posted:decent short thread explaining about why china still has billionaires and their place in the chinese economy and political system: I like that guy alright but he has a habit IMO of stopping short and he's done it again there. "China has billionaires, but they're communist -> they leash the billionaires -> how do they avoid pernicious regulatory capture? -> they're communist" is too tidy and abrupt an ending. Circular, even.
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Oct 4, 2023 15:42
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reading philippino lore and finding out that they were legally US citizens until the country became independent. So does this mean that phillipines are america's ireland?
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Oct 4, 2023 15:54
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Tankbuster posted:reading philippino lore and finding out that they were legally US citizens until the country became independent. So does this mean that phillipines are america's ireland? it's Filipino*, and yes we even have our own potato famine: quote:The Americans, moreover, exceeded even the cruelest Spanish precedents in manipulating disease and hunger as weapons against an insurgent but weakened population. Beginning with the outbreak of war in February 1899, military authorities closed all the ports, disrupting the vital inter-island trade in foodstuffs and preventing the migration of hungry laborers to food-surplus areas. Then, as drought began to turn into famine in 1900, they authorized the systematic destruction of rice stores and livestock in areas that continued to support guerrilla resistance. As historians would later point out, the ensuing campaign of terror against the rural population, backed up by a pass system and population “reconcentration,” prefigured US strategy in Vietnam during the 1960s. “All palay, rice, and storehouses clearly for use by enemy soldiers,” writes De Bevoise, “were to be destroyed. That plan would have caused hardship for the people even had it been implemented as intended, since guerrillas and civilians often depended on the same rice stockpiles, but the food-denial program got out of hand. Increasingly unsure who was enemy and who was friend, American soldiers on patrol did not agonize over such distinctions. They shot and burned indiscriminately, engaging in an orgy of destruction throughout the Philippines.” As one soldier wrote back home to Michigan: “We burned every house, destroyed every carabao and other animals, all rice and other foods.” As a result, “agricultural production was so generally crippled during the American war that food-surplus regions hardly existed.”70 from Mike Davis's "Late Victorian Holocausts"
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Oct 4, 2023 16:05
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sorry about the spelling. From a cursory wikipedia read it seems like the american handling of the phillipnes was a much more realist version of what the british model wrt the raj was. The US administration was busy filling the bureaucracy up with spanish speaking elites - who quickly switched to english - accelerated concentration of land, created tariffs and the like which would turn the country into a big supplier of raw materials - all the while following the letter of the law guaranteeing political independence (up to a point) within a generation. Tankbuster has issued a correction as of 16:15 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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Oct 4, 2023 16:08
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Tankbuster posted:sorry about the spelling. it's okay! I totally get why people assume that's how it conjugates 
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Also graced us with the incredible picture of Taft riding a water buffalo while wearing a pith helmet.
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