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SatoshiMiwa posted:Even if he wasn't the biggest guy in WWF/WCW he was athletic enough to stand out so he 100% could of been the guy. But than you hear stories of him doing dumb poo poo like counting money in front of Baba and you realize why he never got that shot I don't know about 100% THE guy, but he could've been a solid long-term mid-upper carder pretty easily. If he had any weakness, his promos were pretty mid and he didn't have any special charisma which seemed to be a huge factor for main eventers especially back then. Sid being a prime example. That said, I loved his ECW work and he played a pivotal role in RVD, Taz, and Shame Douglas' careers. It was cool that Heyman hyped him as a huge deal "future world champion" and gave him a title run, albeit a short one.
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Page 666? During October? Gotta show some love to THE KISS DEMON
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iamsosmrt posted:Shame Douglas I know this was autocorrect’s doing, but I want this to be intentional.
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The eight points are in alignment. The fifth star has merged. Posting on the Kevin Sullivan page.
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Halloween Jack posted:The eight points are in alignment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8WiAF4S2Y
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One time I was backstage with Kevin Sullivan and he walked over, complimented our production setup, and then grabbed a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and drank from it
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666: VARSITY CLUB could be David DeCoteau's best movie.
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Halloween Jack posted:The eight points are in alignment. The demon man himself
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:One time I was backstage with Kevin Sullivan and he walked over, complimented our production setup, and then grabbed a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and drank from it Did he sell for the hydrogen peroxide or what?
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TheKingslayer posted:Page 666? During October? Gotta show some love to THE KISS DEMON Certainly more love than WCW ever showed him!
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Sandman McMahon posted:Did he sell for the hydrogen peroxide or what? he was probably intending to secrete it from his scalp later on, op
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I have one of these on their way to me, hail satan https://twitter.com/TheZombieSailor/status/1582389038639521792?s=20
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I only ever saw Kevin Sullivan post 96 wcw so seeing him young and what he was doing is wild. I can safely say if I watched young kevin sullivan when I was 14 he would have been my favorite dude.
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Shard posted:I only ever saw Kevin Sullivan post 96 wcw so seeing him young and what he was doing is wild. I can safely say if I watched young kevin sullivan when I was 14 he would have been my favorite dude. Reading Apter mags about the Army of Darkness stuff might have been the ideal way to experience it.
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Ganso Bomb posted:I have one of these on their way to me, hail satan Never thought I'd see a toy of a wrestler that is actual size.
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The ghostly visage of Curtis Iaukea bellows out "SULLIVAN, MY SON"
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Even if he wasn't the biggest guy in WWF/WCW he was athletic enough to stand out so he 100% could of been the guy. But than you hear stories of him doing dumb poo poo like counting money in front of Baba and you realize why he never got that shot As in, counting money Baba just paid him? Yeah, that would be disrespectful. Should've called the Bam Bam Business Bureau.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Bam Bam was just kinda of dumb on the business side though you hear how his manager started him out (by stealing money from his bookings) it's not hard to see why he never got smartened up Bam Bam is quoted in Death of WCW saying something to the effect of how he didn't give a poo poo about how the product was total garbage and management was a bunch of morons because his checks kept clearing, which always makes me laugh.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Bam Bam was just kinda of dumb on the business side though you hear how his manager started him out (by stealing money from his bookings) it's not hard to see why he never got smartened up Yeah, Bigelow signed one of those infamous wrestling school "I will give <blank> percent of my pay to my trainer," in this case Larry Sharpe of the Monster Factory. It probably makes sense at the time. I remember in Jericho's book he talked about how at the "Hart Brothers" Wrestling School ('wrestling' spelled wrong on the contact) that there also that clause but he just never did and never heard of it again. It would be funny to find out Lance did it his entire career.
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Animal-Mother posted:As in, counting money Baba just paid him? Yeah, that would be disrespectful. Should've called the Bam Bam Business Bureau. That said, by all accounts, Bigelow matured a lot when he went back to NJPW and then back to the WWF for his last run there.
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I'm not a lawyer, but "I will pay a tithe of all my earnings in this industry" sounds like the definition of an unenforceable contract.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm not a lawyer, but "I will pay a tithe of all my earnings in this industry" sounds like the definition of an unenforceable contract. It's fairly common in sports, with agents taking advantage of financially illiterate kids straight out of high school or college.
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Jacques Rougeau tried to get Steen to sign one of those. And I'm pretty sure Kevin was a minor.
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I hadn't thought about that. But I think it's a different situation because it's a normal, established thing for a manager/agent to get a percentage of revenue from jobs and contracts that they facilitated. "Pay me X% of everything you earn in this industry even if we never speak again" is something else. And, of course, good luck actually enforcing it when indie wrestling is such a hand-to-mouth, cash-in-hand business. The thing is, there's so much open and legal corruption in the US that I feel like if this were legally possible, entities like for-profit colleges, MLM schemes, and "management training" businesses would already be doing it left and right. Has anybody successfully done it in the big leagues? Like, Tom Zenk got signed to the WWF and had to put a percentage for Eddie Sharkey in the contract, because he believed he had to?
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Wasn't that a huge part of Moolah's poo poo?
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My understanding is that Moolah worked directly with the promoters, literally selling them the talent. Literal slavery is also kind of a different situation from having an untrustworthy manager.
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EVGA Longoria posted:Wasn't that a huge part of Moolah's poo poo? moolah was worse in every way. she not only took a large cut of their money she forbade them from owning bank accounts while also assaulting them and pimping them out to other promotions she is one of the worst people to have ever been involved in the business
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There's that claim from Cena about him giving WWE a portion of his film revenue, but that's more Cena being kind of dumb than an official contract
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Ok (and appropriate page for this question) people keep saying Moolah pimped out her students. Could someone please tell me this is metaphorical.
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Jonny Nox posted:Ok (and appropriate page for this question) people keep saying Moolah pimped out her students. Every single terrible thing you've ever read about Moolah is 100% true. She's one of the worst human beings ever
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Even "pimp" is too mild a word for the things Moolah did. She could be the villain in a Taken ripoff. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if she'd killed a few people over the years. And even if you somehow expunge all the criminal and abusive poo poo she did over the years, she was a purely negative influence on women's wrestling in the US.
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Joey McChrist posted:it is not
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Halloween Jack posted:And even if you somehow expunge all the criminal and abusive poo poo she did over the years, she was a purely negative influence on women's wrestling in the US. this. the reason women's wrestling was in the state it was is because moolah went out of her way to sabotage and ruin it every chance she got so that the spotlight could remain on her
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