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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Not to blame the Ukrainian nationalists for everything here. Party of Regions also liked to stir ethnic tensions and bring up the language issue to drive up votes.

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

VoicesCanBe posted:

By the beginning of March 2022, they completely bought the idea that Russia is about to totally collapse and have quite simply never updated that prior with any new information.

They sincerely believe that Russia is throwing human waves and losing troops en masse in an act of sacrifice, but also that Russian soldiers are cowardly and run away at the earliest sign of any remote danger.

Basically anything that happens or Ukraine claims to happen is fit into the prior of "Russia will collapse imminently".

I’ve been musing about this and it’s possible that materially understanding war requires materially understanding anything else.

Hence the Harry Potter, martial spirit, whatever else fantasia.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Euphronius blind to Canadian posting after the Raptors beat the Sixers in the Eastern Conference Finals that one year. (Or was it semifinals, I don't know, who gives a poo poo.)

Officer Sandvich
Feb 14, 2010

text editor posted:

Don't worry Zelensky is at a European security summit in Spain and the Ruskies, in their infinite evil, used a bomb or missile to kill 50 civilians at a grocery store according to the AFU, similar to how during Blinken's visit the Russians tricked the Ukrainians into firing a missile at that market and then tricked the Ukrainians into lying about the source.

They'll get their funding

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

Officer Sandvich posted:

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

:chloe:

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Giving yourself PTSD is the honor and duty of every poster.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

The Ukrainian Nazis also pushed for Ukrainian to be an official language in Canada btw lol

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Officer Sandvich posted:

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

:kstare:

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Frosted Flake posted:

The Ukrainian Nazis also pushed for Ukrainian to be an official language in Canada btw lol

How come that failed? I thought they wanted a tri-cultural society, how did they end up championing multiculturalism. I'd have thought that would go against their beliefs (they don't like the non-white cultures)

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Frosted Flake posted:

The Ukrainian Nazis also pushed for Ukrainian to be an official language in Canada btw lol

Strong case to be made that it should be the only official language in Canada given how they apparently own y’all.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

VoicesCanBe posted:

By the beginning of March 2022, they completely bought the idea that Russia is about to totally collapse and have quite simply never updated that prior with any new information.

They sincerely believe that Russia is throwing human waves and losing troops en masse in an act of sacrifice, but also that Russian soldiers are cowardly and run away at the earliest sign of any remote danger.

Basically anything that happens or Ukraine claims to happen is fit into the prior of "Russia will collapse imminently".

naked, starving Asiatic conscripts being driven into the guns of tall aryan heroes by cruel commissars armed with whips, sabers, and ppsh's. far from the front line vladimir putin rests in his yurt, just happy that people are dying.

I've yet to see a serious attempt to revise or refute this narrative.

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

Officer Sandvich posted:

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

you're a sociopath hth

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Marenghi posted:

How come that failed? I thought they wanted a tri-cultural society, how did they end up championing multiculturalism. I'd have thought that would go against their beliefs (they don't like the non-white cultures)

No one in Ontario, Quebec or the Maritimes gives a gently caress about the Ukrainians or believes their claims to be a founding nation of the country or whatever. Nobody in RoC was going to demand that schools teach Ukrainian to every student through Grade 10 and the entire civil service learns it.

You see it all the time in the war but they have a seriously inflated sense of their own importance that borders on delusion. I would guess this is a side effect of diaspora mythmaking in a safe environment, but whenever it's put to the test the balloon just pops.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Officer Sandvich posted:

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

Flying too close to the sun here officer

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

No one in Ontario, Quebec or the Maritimes gives a gently caress about the Ukrainians or believes their claims to be a founding nation of the country or whatever. Nobody in RoC was going to demand that schools teach Ukrainian to every student through Grade 10 and the entire civil service learns it.

You see it all the time in the war but they have a seriously inflated sense of their own importance that borders on delusion. I would guess this is a side effect of diaspora mythmaking in a safe environment, but whenever it's put to the test the balloon just pops.

Republic of China?

Minenfeld!
Aug 21, 2012



bedpan posted:

naked, starving Asiatic conscripts being driven into the guns of tall aryan heroes by cruel commissars armed with whips, sabers, and ppsh's. far from the front line vladimir putin rests in his yurt, just happy that people are dying.

I've yet to see a serious attempt to revise or refute this narrative.

The evil Xerxes drives his slaves.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Also even at the time they were demanding these things, German, Italian and Ukrainian immigrants which were the big three in the first half of the 20th c were being overtaken by Asians and Indians. Additionally, indigenous people are literally, by constitution and treaty, nations, and we haven't given them those language rights so it raises a bunch of questions. Indigenous nations have a direct relationship to the Crown, they don't even have to go through Canada, so again... why the gently caress would the Ukrainians be granted more status than them?

Racism, I know, but the idea was just to spite Quebec and never actually give them a bicultural society while preventing the Troubles from breaking out here. The Ukrainians were not useful beyond Official Multiculturalism.

Now, if there is another immigration wave of Political Ukrainians, and it's steered towards Quebec, to suppress their nationalism instead of prairie socialism, I can absolutely see them demanding that all Quebecers learn Ukrainian, services be offered in Ukrainian etc. because as the loyal little foot soldiers they are, they'd be Ottawa's guarantee against another referendum, terrorist campaign or revolt.

I don't think we're going to get that level of funny outcome though.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Isizzlehorn posted:

you're a sociopath hth

get his rear end

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Officer Sandvich posted:

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

loving idiot

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Like seriously the dark pit you are finding these posts in is not worth trecking through

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


that syq was being posted in one of the cspam threads like last year or something

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
oh is it a syq

Still

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


it's funny because the guy is clearly driving himself insane for cheerleading a war, but also that's sad. the duality of man

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

Marenghi posted:

How come that failed? I thought they wanted a tri-cultural society, how did they end up championing multiculturalism. I'd have thought that would go against their beliefs (they don't like the non-white cultures)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/rcmp-unilingual-bilingual-english-french-jobs-rules-1.6985500

They're gonna have to deal with the issue of 2 languages before putting real work on a 3rd.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

The more I think about it, the more it would rhyme historically, because Maria Theresa named the lands of the Polish Partition "Galicia" after her favourite lost Spanish province. Maria Theresa was allied with France in the Seven Years War in which Britain won Canada. New France being reconstituted as New (new) Galicia would appropriately bookend the Wars of Spanish and Austrian Succession, where the Hapsburgs lost Galicia, the Partition of Poland, where they recreated it, and the Seven Years War, where the British took New France. Old (new) Galicia can be reconstituted as a Jewish homeland, as originally intended, by incorporating it as a non-contiguous part of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast.

Who brought about the present series of wars that caused all of this upset? An Austrian, A Prussian and Pole, and a Hannovarian, exactly the same people responsible for the aforementioned three 18th c wars.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Officer Sandvich posted:

I watch a lot of uncensored combat footage of close infantry fighting. I feel literally nothing seeing Russian soldiers get killed. Occasionally I have a twinge of paranoia that I’m some kind of sociopath. But when I see photos (I can’t even watch the videos, I just cannot handle the screams of the dying and wounded) of these attack on civilians I’m at least reassured that I’m not.

Dancer
May 23, 2011

Regarde Aduck posted:

i realise this is a very callous reading but Ukraine kinda caused this by overtly stating multiple times that they plan to cleanse those regions once they retake them. Ukraine winning would literally cause more suffering than them not winning.

Hi. I have seen variations of this sentiment expressed in various places (usually not this distinctly), and I have no trouble believing that it could be at this point... but also this is not something I dare repeat in polite society without receipts. Who said this?

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
this was posted a few pages ago but the video from calgary 1989 is pretty nuts

https://twitter.com/ShoahUkraine/status/1709435131239469458

just openly stating to the camera that they want to find personal information on simon weistenthal and they would like to use it to destroy him but dont worry its not because hes jewish if thats what you were assuming for some reason

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Dancer posted:

Hi. I have seen variations of this sentiment expressed in various places (usually not this distinctly), and I have no trouble believing that it could be at this point... but also this is not something I dare repeat in polite society without receipts. Who said this?

P much every Ukrainian official who has spoken on the matter

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Dancer posted:

Hi. I have seen variations of this sentiment expressed in various places (usually not this distinctly), and I have no trouble believing that it could be at this point... but also this is not something I dare repeat in polite society without receipts. Who said this?

I think this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrylo_Budanov

This guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykhailo_Podolyak

and a third guy I'm spacing out on right now.

Frosted Flake posted:

P much every Ukrainian official who has spoken on the matter

Or yeah this is a simpler answer.

dieselfruit
Feb 21, 2013


Is it too late to do a joke about Bimbo Bandera? Maybe something about chin fillers?

samogonka
Nov 5, 2016
blood and soil barbie

La Louve Rouge
Jun 25, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Frosted Flake posted:

No one in Ontario, Quebec or the Maritimes gives a gently caress about the Ukrainians or believes their claims to be a founding nation of the country or whatever. Nobody in RoC was going to demand that schools teach Ukrainian to every student through Grade 10 and the entire civil service learns it.

You see it all the time in the war but they have a seriously inflated sense of their own importance that borders on delusion. I would guess this is a side effect of diaspora mythmaking in a safe environment, but whenever it's put to the test the balloon just pops.

every day i grow more vindicated in my belief that the St. Lawrence watershed is the only true Canada

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

La Louve Rouge posted:

every day i grow more vindicated in my belief that the St. Lawrence watershed is the only true Canada

It is but they ran out of people after Manitoba.

I think they should have let Normans settle Sask, their economy was p bad in 1900, and settled Alberta with Irish Catholics, another bad economy in 1900, preserving the national balance, and offsetting two neighbouring provinces of Catholics with their linguistic differences, and much richer BC already being populated by Anglos.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
My favorite part of NAFO thought justifying how they are totally winning the war is the secret mobilization they've cooked up where Russia has (without anyone knowing) grabbed hundreds of thousands of conscripts out of their homes beyond the officially announced mobilization / contract soldiers and these secret hundreds of thousands are the ones dying in the human wave attacks.

They need to believe in this because Ukrainian claims of Russian troop casualties / kia (something approaching 300,000 dead and implicitly 2-3x that number wounded) make no loving sense whatsoever when placed in context of how many Russian soldiers are known to have been mustered / are still claimed to be present in the theater (400,000+ and growing btw as per Ukrainian / pro west sources)

**but yeah, it's a hell of a trip when in the same week you can read speculation on these forums in the media that Russia had just sent their very last reserves into the battle in a desperate attempt to hold onto the line while in the exact same week a Ukrainian military source says the Russians have 425,000 soldiers still in Ukraine and 70-80% of their forces are in the rear and not currently engaged in fighting.

Starsfan has issued a correction as of 19:37 on Oct 5, 2023

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

samogonka posted:

blood and soil barbie

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
no one cares what NAFO thinks

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"
My understanding of Russia's total numbers dedicated thus far:

-190k from the armed forces at the start, plus 30k between the DPR and LPR, and then let's say 50k from Wagner
-September 2022, there's the partial mobilization of reservists which came out to 300k
-something along the lines of 300k volunteers throughout 2023
-Russia has a yearly separate conscription drive where they recruit around 250k into service, but I'm not sure if those numbers actually went to Ukraine.

It's hard to say how many of those post Feb. 2022 numbers have actually seen combat, but perhaps an estimate around 800k has seen some kind of combat is reasonable.

On Ukraine's side, they declared martial law immediately, called up all their reservists, and have been conscripting nonstop since. A hawkish US think tank posted an estimation that Ukraine has brought about 2 million into the armed forces to serve in some capacity, close to 10% of the prewar population. At that point manpower becomes a significant problem, and there are signs of that in how Ukraine has expanded their definition for able-bodied combatants and pressing the EU to extradite refugees.

If that 2 million figure for Ukraine is correct, it actually would make sense for Ukraine to have around 200k war dead without seeing their lines fall apart.

VoicesCanBe has issued a correction as of 19:50 on Oct 5, 2023

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Cuttlefush posted:

oh is it a syq

Still

tgats the metafilter syq guy

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Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
I miss catpetter

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