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Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess?
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Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess? There have been a few. If you mean in SEED in particular I think Gaia Gundam is the only one I can think of.
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Oct 5, 2023 02:40
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It's hilarious how the Force Impulse is the best looking mobile suit in that line up but I like the new Gelgoog. The Rising Freedom (at least how the Gunpla of it looks) grew on me too. Everything else though... eh...
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Oct 5, 2023 02:41
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Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess?  MechaX posted:It's hilarious how the Force Impulse is the best looking mobile suit in that line up The Impulse is the best looking Mobile Suit in most line ups. It's an extremely good Gundam
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Oct 5, 2023 02:42
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Give that thing a yellow face with guns sticking out of the mouth and we'll talk.
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Oct 5, 2023 02:43
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Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess? The Loto from Unicorn looks pretty neat.
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Oct 5, 2023 02:43
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i actually think the zeta gundam isn't that bad on that front
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Oct 5, 2023 02:44
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MechaX posted:It's hilarious how the Force Impulse is the best looking mobile suit in that line up but I like the new Gelgoog. The Rising Freedom (at least how the Gunpla of it looks) grew on me too. The Rising Freedom looks better in animation at least. The face looks more Zetaish in the trailer compared to the weird look it has in the art. The Immortal Justice just looks weird to me even in the animation. I'm not sure what it is but it feels too flat. The Gyan is just weird especially if it's supposed to be Shin's suit. I wonder what even is the deal with the Spec 2. It doesn't appear to be Lunamaria's or Shin's.
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Oct 5, 2023 02:44
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ImpAtom posted:The Rising Freedom looks better in animation at least. The face looks more Zetaish in the trailer compared to the weird look it has in the art. If those plot leaks from last month turn up being accurate (which at this point... there's some stuff that did turn out true): Shinn pilots the Immortal Justice because Athrun is too busy being a super spy offscreen until later in the movie. The Spec 2 wasn't mentioned so I dunno what its deal is either but allegedly Shinn shows up later in the Destiny to help deliver something to Athrun and the new Infinite Justice variant that Athrun gets later on.
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Oct 5, 2023 02:51
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Neo_Crimson posted:This looks...not great? Animation and CGI quality looks like a step down from Hathaway or even Doan's Island. There's more going on with the mobile suit action in this trailer than in the entire movie of Hathaway. 2d wise a movie with a cartoony style, specifically based on an early 2000's aesthetic wasn't ever going to match a movie deliberately going for hyper-realism with it's characters and settings
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Oct 5, 2023 03:47
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MechaX posted:If those plot leaks from last month turn up being accurate (which at this point... there's some stuff that did turn out true): Shinn pilots the Immortal Justice because Athrun is too busy being a super spy offscreen until later in the movie. The Spec 2 wasn't mentioned so I dunno what its deal is either but allegedly Shinn shows up later in the Destiny to help deliver something to Athrun and the new Infinite Justice variant that Athrun gets later on. That would seem to track with the trailer. Makes a Nu Freedom seem more likely too Also betting the new Justice and Freedom are non nuclear ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 04:29
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ImpAtom posted:Also betting the new Justice and Freedom are non nuclear Wouldn't they be Hyper Deuterium?
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Oct 5, 2023 04:41
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double anti-neutron jammer canceler canceler. only available to the most patriotically named mobile suits
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Oct 5, 2023 05:06
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The Seedgoog's bared midriff is kinda hilarious to me.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:47
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ImpAtom posted:Oh my god the new suits are named Shiva and Rudra Excuse me, they're named Shi-ve.a and Rud-ro.a. Worse than the Savior in every way. Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess? Delta Plus/Kai, Zeta, ReZEL... from SEED in particular, Savior and Murasame. General rule of thumb is how far does it deviate from something that looks like an airplane. "If it looks right, it flies right."
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Oct 5, 2023 06:07
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It's 100% the nostalgia talking but I will always think Wing Gundam is badass.
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Oct 5, 2023 07:27
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https://twitter.com/Gyamamoto11/status/1709781482838147445 I thought the Freedom Gundam reminded me of Zeta SgtSteel91 fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 07:39
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These plane modes suck but at least Ugly Gyan is redeemed by having that loving laser buzzsaw.
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Oct 5, 2023 07:56
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SgtSteel91 posted:https://twitter.com/xxnike0629xx/status/1709618357308158463?s=46 I really hope the bottom row combines into a giant mech for dumb reasons.
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Oct 5, 2023 08:00
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The Arios Gundam looks fairly OK - it does have a lot of kibble in its mobile suit form, but it's largely of the sort that can be justified as extra manoeuvring thrusters.
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Oct 5, 2023 14:15
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The zeta looks good in both modes, but it had to have a super complicated transformation for it to work. This caused the gunpla designers headaches for years. The Asshimar also looks pretty good.
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Oct 5, 2023 16:42
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Was Seed the first show that had Gundams which could fly long distances in atmosphere because they had wings? The Wing Gundam in Wing had Wings, but iirc it still needed to transform to actually fly more than just doing a big jump.
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Oct 5, 2023 16:51
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Did the Victory Gundams not do it in part because they were so light and small
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Oct 5, 2023 17:18
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The Victory has not wings.
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Oct 5, 2023 17:22
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Victory Gundams basically have a gravity drive The first CE Gundams that could fly long distance were Freedom and Justice, more because they had limitless power than wings
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Oct 5, 2023 17:24
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Gripweed posted:Was Seed the first show that had Gundams which could fly long distances in atmosphere because they had wings? The Wing Gundam in Wing had Wings, but iirc it still needed to transform to actually fly more than just doing a big jump. Weirdly enough SEED didn't have that. The Gundams in SEED couldn't fly long distances unaided in atmosphere. The Aile Strike Gundam actually was a Big Jump machine in atmosphere where it could use its thrusters to hover or maneuvere but had to land eventually (which comes up in a couple of battles) and the other Gundams had to use subflight lifters or MA modes. The Freedom, Dinn and Forbidden were all capable of air combat but couldn't fly long distances in atmosphere unaided. (This is part of why Justice has a built-in subflight lifter so it *can* do that.) Even in those cases the Dinn is explicitly super-light and basically made of tissue paper, the Freedom has near-limitless energy and Forbidden's limits didn't matter because its pilot would run out of drugs before it became relevant. In Destiny though yeah everything just flies.
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Oct 5, 2023 17:29
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ImpAtom posted:Weirdly enough SEED didn't have that. The Gundams in SEED couldn't fly long distances unaided in atmosphere. The Aile Strike Gundam actually was a Big Jump machine in atmosphere where it could use its thrusters to hover or maneuvere but had to land eventually (which comes up in a couple of battles) and the other Gundams had to use subflight lifters or MA modes. The Freedom, Dinn and Forbidden were all capable of air combat but couldn't fly long distances in atmosphere unaided. (This is part of why Justice has a built-in subflight lifter so it *can* do that.) That makes sense, I guess I was thinking of stuff like Freedom's airborne King Kong act, which was in Destiny.
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Oct 5, 2023 17:32
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Gripweed posted:Was Seed the first show that had Gundams which could fly long distances in atmosphere because they had wings? The Wing Gundam in Wing had Wings, but iirc it still needed to transform to actually fly more than just doing a big jump. Wing Zero flew through space and into the atmosphere with the angel wings in Endless Waltz.
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Oct 5, 2023 17:39
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Gripweed posted:That makes sense, I guess I was thinking of stuff like Freedom's airborne King Kong act, which was in Destiny. Yeah by Destiny they either just forgot or mumblemumble'd offscreen upgrade.
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Oct 5, 2023 17:44
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Freedom is essentially flying on mumblemumble as well, it's wings are in no way oriented such that they'd do anything. That HiMAT makes that even worse, you'd think it was deliberate, even.
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Oct 5, 2023 18:19
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Synthbuttrange posted:I really hope the bottom row combines into a giant mech for dumb reasons. https://twitter.com/moke_oji3/status/1709752575631978737?s=46
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Oct 5, 2023 18:56
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Seemlar posted:Victory Gundams basically have a gravity drive Which I admittedly chafe at because limitless power does not mean limitless reactant mass. Those things are still closed-cycle engines and the Freedumb is going to run out of propellant at some point. Surely. Any minute now. The best thing to come out of new Freedom's mobile armor mode is a slurry of gunpla pages I follow are all posting kitbashes of existing Freedom kits with transformations. A lot of wish.com Wing Zeros out there right now.
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Oct 5, 2023 19:37
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Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess? Baund Doc. Gotta love a mobile suit that yoga stretches into a horseshoe crab
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Oct 5, 2023 23:52
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Yup
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Oct 6, 2023 00:05
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Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess? Gabthley is perfect.
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Oct 6, 2023 00:11
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Gaius Marius posted:Gabthley is perfect. In that it looks like a literal heap of poo poo in both forms, yes.
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Oct 6, 2023 00:37
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It's beautiful
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Oct 6, 2023 00:41
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Warmachine posted:Which I admittedly chafe at because limitless power does not mean limitless reactant mass. Those things are still closed-cycle engines and the Freedumb is going to run out of propellant at some point. Surely. Any minute now. It's not realistic but I'm pretty certain CE is internally consistent about it from beginning to end, it's all about power generation and propellant never factors in. Even in Destiny, there's a distinct line between abilities - nuclear powered suits are air combat capable and have unlimited flight range, non-nuclear suits are air combat capable and have short/mid range flight as long as they're equipped with dedicated flight equipment, without the equipment suits are either groundbound or limited to jumping or hovering, or use separate lifter units It's just that the latter becomes infrequent because flight equipment is fairly ubiquitous and power systems are advanced to the point where running out of power stops being a major element, Destiny's major thing was ZAFT sidestepping force limitation treaty rules by developing a smaller force of standard units that dunk on first generation Gundams tech wise
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Oct 6, 2023 01:14
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SEED is odd in that it isn't remotely realistic but it is generally quite good about being consistent. Even when it comes to things like laser colors it tends to be pretty on point to what they mean. You get the occasional "Mu blocks a anti-fortress cannon" but the answer there was more "it was cool and dramatic so who cares."
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Arc Hammer posted:Has there ever, ever, been a transforming mobile suit that didn't look like somebody threw a toy against a wall and then tried to reattach all the pieces in a jumbled mess? asshimar
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