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The reason Israel has leaned so hard in technology is directly related to what everyone else is saying, they are almost uniquely casualty intolerant. It's not something they do because technology and firepower are so great, it is because of their own shortcomings. Israel has been criticized since 1973 for having low quality, low motivation infantry. Since 1967 at the latest, the tank corps and Air Force were greatly privileged and were given most of the resources and best incoming drafts and volunteers. The corresponding lack of funding, training and high quality recruits severely hurt the Infantry Corps, which atrophied tactically. Their purpose became following in the wake of the airstrikes and tanks. Add to this the Political aspects of Israeli casualty aversion, where the lives of their soldiers took on outside importance as they saw themselves in some sort of population race. In 1973, those changes meant that in most tactical actions the infantry would hang back while Israeli tanks shot the Syrians off their positions, and in the Sinai front they barely closed with Egyptian infantry at all if they could help it. Where they couldn't, like when the Egyptians crossed the canal, or in the fighting on the Golan Heights where the Air Force and tanks couldn't do most of the fighting, the Israeli Army had an extremely bad time, and things were far more closely run than many people remember. There are more than a few accounts of Israeli Reservists in the Golan refusing to advance if there were any signs of life from the Syrian lines. That was the IDF at its apogee, what do you think it's like now? Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 19:42 on Oct 7, 2023 |
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lol didnt that loser weimar joe crow about re-rapprochement between saudi arabia and israel
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https://twitter.com/miakhalifa/status/1710641662068670834?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg my favourite actress has more dignity than all arab governments put together
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Gripweed posted:Movie pitch; a Palestinian family moves back into their old home, at first everything seems perfect but then strange things start happening. At first they think it’s nothing, then they think they got a ghost, but then it turns out there’s a Settler living in the walls! This is just Dune.
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dont get your hopes up the saudi government is readying their finest kneepads and lipstick for israel and this war wont change their mind
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i think this time hamas (et al?) is prepared for a ground invasion. if they're lucky they identified the areas of interest israel will attemp to take first and planned ahead
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GoLambo posted:The IDF is going to seriously measure their response because Iran can shock and awe Tel Aviv with cruise missiles just as easily and a serious provocation would absolutely bring Hezbollah into the conflict. They cannot actually act with impunity, and they won't, and that bought time can add up real fast. Counterpoint: The Israeli state is incredibly dumb and wants to do genocide.
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Al-Saqr posted:dont get your hopes up the saudi government is readying their finest kneepads and lipstick for israel and this war wont change their mind IDK, they've been pretty chummy with China for a while now.....
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quote:Everything happening right now. Orange Devil posted:This is just Dune.
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Lol how about that normalisation
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lol i wonder if the israel/saudi deal is gonna tank from this
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GoLambo posted:Seriously. You would think more people would be getting the picture by now. There is much more to war than naked force, and regardless western militaries have shown themselves to be thin skinned and running through a field of rakes with their hubris. this is true but Afghanistan and Gaza are not comparable settings.
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The only good infantry in the Israeli Army for a long time has been the airborne, and even then they spend most of their time playing 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment in Ireland.
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just got a personal phone call from Joe Biden to go support Israel
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guys please dont believe the saudi statement they are 100% gonna normalize when things calm down and if america agrees to a security pact and nuclear energy program
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Frosted Flake posted:The only good infantry in the Israeli Army for a long time has been the airborne, and even then they spend most of their time playing 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment in Ireland. They get a lot of golfing in.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lol i wonder if the israel/saudi deal is gonna tank from this given the timing that very well might be one of the political objectives for hamas
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Al-Saqr posted:guys please dont believe the saudi statement they are 100% gonna normalize when things calm down and if america agrees to a security pact and nuclear energy program Yeah it's just lip service because their street supports Palestinians but they aren't going to do anything differently.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/indianrightwing/status/1710541509635051669 Nice try, you're not getting me to log back on Twitter to see if the report button actually does anything this time.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lol i wonder if the israel/saudi deal is gonna tank from this from Bloomberg's Javier Blas, energy columnist about 5 hours ago: "The Saudi-Israeli diplomatic deal, which many had penciled in for early-to-mid 2024, is a casualty. Even if Riyadh is likely furious with Hamas, it’s difficult to see how Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman would be able to sell the deal domestically. That, in turn, removes the potential for Saudi Arabia pumping more oil to help passage of the deal in Washington. The other victim of the Hamas-Isaeli war is the Saudi-Iranian rapprochement, which itself was another bearish element for oil."
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mdemone posted:this is true but Afghanistan and Gaza are not comparable settings. Yeah, Gaza is in a much, much better position to directly attack their enemies infrastructure, place immense pressure on their civilians and even leverage neighboring allies to their cause.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/indianrightwing/status/1710541509635051669 Fascist Hindutva stan other fellow fascists (Revisionist Zionists), news at a11.
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webcams for christ posted:from Bloomberg's Javier Blas, energy columnist about 5 hours ago: lol why would saudi-iran relations suffer at all over this
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Sleepy Joe is going to bring peace by putting all the combatants to sleep
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GoLambo posted:Yeah, Gaza is in a much, much better position to directly attack their enemies infrastructure, place immense pressure on their civilians and even leverage neighboring allies to their cause. I agree. I think maybe we are not disagreeing after all.
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webcams for christ posted:from Bloomberg's Javier Blas, energy columnist about 5 hours ago: why would this hurt the Iran Saudi deal?if anything this will make Riyadh kiss up to Qom more
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