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Libs are dumping wokeness after having gone broke (realizing they can fundraise better off different interests).
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Malleum posted:a bunch of american and european settlers genocided the natives op its not that complicated excuse me, israel had that land in the bible so they can genocide whoever they want 
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Oct 7, 2023 19:58
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Joe Biden is awful and I find him to be the handsomest man on television. Go away
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Willa Rogers posted:I hope this leads to libs/dems thinking twice about supporting censorship of wrong-think, just as the First is being used as the best defense against transphobes like desantis. Unfortunately, I think they value loyalty to party above all things. I don’t think they even understand why anymore. Clip-On Fedora has issued a correction as of 20:07 on Oct 7, 2023 |
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Oct 7, 2023 20:03
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these are terrifying    I had to read the thread to find out purple guy was a young fdr. lol at steampunk smooth hillary.
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Oct 7, 2023 20:11
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Willa Rogers posted:that's my president stfu
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Scarabrae posted:well well well Why are you using racist dog whistles
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Willa Rogers posted:I hope this leads to libs/dems thinking twice about supporting censorship of wrong-think, just as the First is being used as the best defense against transphobes like desantis. cool use of queer people as a tool to advance your pet issue argument, which is entirely different from what libs do
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Clip-On Fedora posted:Ohhhh so that's why everybody's so mad now. They actually hit back this time. Just like 9/11.
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Oct 7, 2023 20:25
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the first amendment is the best defense against ron desantis i say as people are forcibly de-transitioned but at least i dont have to have any sad feelings about the government being mean
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Oct 7, 2023 20:26
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Willa Rogers posted:these are terrifying 
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Oct 7, 2023 20:31
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lmoa: https://twitter.com/MFA_Ukraine/status/1710574305254285469
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Oct 7, 2023 20:33
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https://twitter.com/haneefsaeed/status/1710603609606656498 https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1710587900851609686 this really is amazing
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Oct 7, 2023 20:33
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imo my views should not be censored but those of my opponents should be 100% serious
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Oct 7, 2023 20:35
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Blockade posted:imo my views should not be censored but those of my opponents should be alas, your opponents also feel this way.
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Oct 7, 2023 20:36
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smythe post in 3 2 ...
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ram dass in hell posted:cool use of queer people as a tool to advance your pet issue argument, which is entirely different from what libs do I'm pointing out the value of the First as a tool to protect queer people, as has been the case in successful lawsuits against censorship that hurts queer people. If that lovely legislation sponsored by warren is challenged in the courts it'll be on the basis of violating the First.
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Oct 7, 2023 20:47
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ram dass in hell posted:cool use of queer people as a tool to advance your pet issue argument, which is entirely different from what libs do Yeah, uh, I'm a canadian. I don't get this yank bs about '~CEnsorSHiP~'. Not least because the yanks have an aggressive regime of such through access and plata methods. Also, for the love of god keep that AI garbage out of this loving thread, it sucks poo poo.
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StratGoatCom posted:, for the love of god keep that AI garbage out of this loving thread, it sucks poo poo.
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm pointing out the value of the First as a tool to protect queer people, as has been the case in successful lawsuits against censorship that hurts queer people. Ah yes, the US Court system that doesn't basically ignore the concept of stare decisis by backing into their conclusions and constantly overturning precedent when a new lifetime appointed judge/panel decides to reverse the last group's position. The First Amendment only protects poo poo when it's beneficial to management.
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DeSantis v. the First Amendment Broadly speaking, DeSantis’s efforts to limit free speech and shape public discourse fit into three boxes. The first, which includes things like Florida’s laws attacking Disney and attempting to gain control over social media sites, seek to control what major companies can say and what speech they must broadcast. These laws are clearly unconstitutional. The second box includes laws, like Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law and the so-called Stop WOKE Act, which impose speech restrictions on public school teachers and professors. The constitutional status of these sorts of laws is more nuanced. While the Supreme Court has repeatedly said that the First Amendment provides some protections for academic freedom, it hasn’t fully fleshed out those statements. As a general rule, moreover, states do have the power to write their own school curriculums and to require instructors to follow those curriculums. That said, the Supreme Court has said that laws governing classroom instruction may not be so vague that people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application.” Neither the Don’t Say Gay law nor the Stop WOKE Act complies with this rule. Then there’s a third box, which consists of actions that use governmental institutions to promote a conservative viewpoint, but without suppressing speech. Florida acted within its lawful authority, for example, when it appointed former Sen. Ben Sasse, a conservative Republican, to lead the University of Florida. And Sasse will have broad authority to use his new office to promote Republican ideas on campus. DeSantis cannot tell private companies what they are allowed to say and what they are allowed to publish Let’s start with what should be the most basic point imaginable under the First Amendment: The government may not use its sovereign powers to punish people who criticize elected officials or their policies. As the Supreme Court said in Hartman v. Moore (2006), “official reprisal for protected speech ‘offends the Constitution [because] it threatens to inhibit exercise of the protected right.’” To be sure, DeSantis’s most high-profile attempt to punish a perceived enemy involves a company that is quite powerful in its own right. It’s not like the Walt Disney Company lacks the resources to defend itself against unconstitutional legislation passed by a state government. But the fact that DeSantis targeted one of the largest and most popular producers of First Amendment-protected art in the world is also a warning about how far his agenda could reach if it is successful. A single individual who is sanctioned by the government is likely to silence their own speech, but a major media company that is targeted for reprisals could change the message that it broadcasts to millions of voters. And these sorts of reprisals are unlawful no matter what form they take. If the government, for example, offers a special tax break to a major employer, it cannot strip away that tax break to punish the employer for its First Amendment-protected speech — even though there is obviously no constitutional right to pay less taxes than other companies.
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Oct 7, 2023 20:54
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Has anyone seen Trump in the last day or two? https://i.imgur.com/O41r7l9.mp4
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Horseshoe theory posted:Ah yes, the US Court system that doesn't basically ignore the concept of stare decisis by backing into their conclusions and constantly overturning precedent when a new lifetime appointed judge/panel decides to reverse the last group's position. hence the importance of defending it as a bedrock legal principle quote:We cannot rely on the courts to enforce the First Amendment — especially if DeSantis gets to appoint federal judges the more that censorship is normalized & accepted bipartisanly, the easier it is for the courts to codify it.
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Oct 7, 2023 20:57
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Willa Rogers posted:hence the importance of defending it as a bedrock legal principle Too bad about the Supreme Court doing whatever the gently caress it wants with no legal recourse from them, then.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Too bad about the Supreme Court doing whatever the gently caress it wants with no legal recourse from them, then. The First is so well-established as settled law that it's likely one of the only remaining salvations for scotus rulings in the near future. Normalizing that it's gone for good is more destructive than any scotus ruling.
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Oct 7, 2023 21:03
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good. the united states ought to be destroyed
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Oct 7, 2023 21:04
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Horseshoe theory posted:Too bad about the Supreme Court doing whatever the gently caress it wants with no legal recourse from them, then. I give it a decade or so before we make it back to the bill of rights only applies to the federal government
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Oct 7, 2023 21:06
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I give it a decade or so before we make it back to the bill of rights only applies to the federal government We're pretty much halfway there already.
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Oct 7, 2023 21:07
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Willa Rogers posted:We're pretty much halfway there already. Yeah the only thing really stopping them is they don’t want to let California or New York ban guns
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Oct 7, 2023 21:08
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I/P may be complicated, but America’s role in it is not. it’s the same as America’s role in Ukraine, or anywhere else we’ve decided we can blow poo poo up. our position is we will expend as much materiel as possible so that we can generate new purchase orders. any rationalization of our actions is just working backwards from that conclusion. as long as you keep that in mind, everything we do makes perfect sense. any of the nuance around Jewish homeland or evangelical Christians beckoning in the end times or (in the case of Ukraine) stopping Russian aggression or whatever…it’s all just part of that rationalization and the manufacturing of consent. the greatest proof of this is that our main role always seems to wind up being providing materiel like munitions and iron domes. hmm…
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Oct 7, 2023 21:14
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spacetoaster posted:Has anyone seen Trump in the last day or two? always lol at this, especially bearded trump with the ak
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Oct 7, 2023 21:15
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The United States is the worlds greatest arms trafficking cartel
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Oct 7, 2023 21:16
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Buy guns! It's cool & fun
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it’s why the only times the us gets a little mad at Israel is when they get a bit too carried away with their bloodlust. keeping the Palestinians miserable and in ghettos and with juuuust enough access to build cute little bottle rockets is cool and good, but actually moving the needle one way or the other on the conflict could stop the gravy train
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Oct 7, 2023 21:21
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HashtagGirlboss posted:Yeah the only thing really stopping them is they don’t want to let California or New York ban guns if we ban guns only cops will have guns
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