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Apr 9, 2007

have the palestinians considered voting for less isreal oppression

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Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002


well well well

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

There’s this idea that violence begets violence but what if the violinzed doesnt reviliolize the violizer, like Martin doctor king said

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.

Clip-On Fedora posted:

Do you ask questions? Do you bring up the possibility that you or others might be wrong about things or heading in the wrong direction? That might be the problem, because you’re inviting the possibility that they might have failed at something or they are wrong.

I think a lot of these people have never truly failed in their lives, so they never had that moment where they realized it’s something you can recover from and that you can even learn from it. As a result, failure or even “being wrong” remains this terrible unknowable beast that threatens to destroy them every time it rears it’s head. And when you get an entire room if people who think this is reality, it stops becoming a matter of perception and starts becoming reality. Failure becomes death instead of growth.

As a result, you get a situation where any time you question their judgement or morality, in their mind you have just initiated a Trial by Stone, a scenario where if they fail the trial, if they are wrong, then they risk their colleges seeing their failure and seizing the opportunity to viciously strip them of all ranks and status, then exiling them from the whole as a final insult. And since their colleagues are extremely competitive and have a highly individualized sense of ambition , they know their they are more than willing to seize upon their weakness as an opportunity to raise their own star.

I like this analysis a lot. Finding a place where you can be transparent about being wrong, celebrate failure if it is followed by a fast correction, and even open to not knowing everything is rare rare rare- and even then, as you climb, you find more people like that guarding their turf for fear you usurping them and proving that somehow they were “wrong” through their own perceived failure to fend you off.

Also- all the colleagues I am friendly with really really really love to talk about the blight of homeless people and how DANGEROUS it is to walk down any street in San Francisco. You can be having a pleasant conversation and BOOM “yeah I have to do the panhandler hurdle 8 times per block the police should DO SOMETHING*” comes up and I’ve learned to not alienate folk by immediately pointing out how barbaric that is (and as such, I am part of the problem)





*KILL ‘EM ALL

edit: oh poo poo didn’t realize i was quoting 40 pages back my bad though the point still stands :colbert:

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

Krustic posted:

I just read an article on the yahoo front page (best news source in the world) in which the author was arguing that Biden’s secret service agents deserved to get bitten by his dog because they may have been secret MAGA supporters. How’s y’all’s day going?

nah those were just Harik posts

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


TeenageArchipelago posted:

Nicheal please help Jimmy Biden buy Joe a new dog Delaware needs you

Jimmy lives next to his former neighbor, Jeffrey Epstein, not Delaware.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

HallelujahLee posted:

this is some weak poo poo

Its as strong as it gets

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

mawarannahr posted:

My people didn't make any gains for our sovereignty or rights by cutting the throat of every white boy in Saskatchewan or Manitoba who built a house on our ancestral lands, though we did engage with the Canadian military on several occasions.

Instead, I said "Thank you for your service."

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


that's my president I didn't fully read it. :ohdear:

Willa Rogers has issued a correction as of 20:20 on Oct 7, 2023

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
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Willa Rogers posted:

that's my president

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

https://twitter.com/votesocialist24/status/1710688176610693449

heres something alot better

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

for once I agree with zegerman: west's statement is as strong as opposition gets to israel and he'll even be excoriated for that.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
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Willa Rogers posted:

for once I agree with zegerman: west's statement is as strong as opposition gets to israel and he'll even be excoriated for that.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

No one's going to get away with pointing out israel's genocides while running for office in the u.s., and it's lightyears better than bernie's statement.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



here's something even better

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Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

Willa Rogers posted:

for once I agree with zegerman: west's statement is as strong as opposition gets to israel and he'll even be excoriated for that.
He didn't even remember to include "Israel has a right to defend itself"

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


you're right; if they're not knocked off the IL ballot I'll vote them instead.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
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Willa Rogers posted:

you're right; if they're not knocked off the IL ballot I'll vote them instead.

you don't have to vote for the lesser evil

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Willa Rogers posted:

No one's going to get away with pointing out israel's genocides while running for office in the u.s., and it's lightyears better than bernie's statement.

It's also mildly pointless to rank statements from West, De Laz Cruz, or even Bernie, because our choices for foreign policy are and will be for the foreseeable future, Blue Rapist or Red Rapist. It's fine to have the discussion, and I of course would prefer the De La Cruz statement, but absolutely none of this can be affected by American citizens in any sense.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I initially got to "vicious israeli occupation" & celebrated prematurely. :sweatdrop:

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Nichael posted:

It's also mildly pointless to rank statements from West, De Laz Cruz, or even Bernie, because our choices for foreign policy are and will be for the foreseeable future, Blue Rapist or Red Rapist. It's fine to have the discussion, and I of course would prefer the De La Cruz statement, but absolutely none of this can be affected by American citizens in any sense.

yeah, I know that from even imagining for a few decades that eventually we'd get sensible healthcare reform. :sigh:

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




The Cut of Your Jib
Apr 24, 2007


you don't find a style

a style finds you



Scarabrae posted:

well well well

well well well

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

next week's effort post on "medicare" "advantage" for the econ thread will be about the mailers I'm getting that sound so good that they're even tempting me, who knows better.

it's so slick how the feds have managed, under both parties, to destroy medicare without appearing to destroy medicare.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/stat...ingawful.com%2F

Hahahahahahahaha

gently caress off

SanderS = Nader + SS

so NOW you're against war. gently caress you bernie

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Willa Rogers posted:

next week's effort post on "medicare" "advantage" for the econ thread will be about the mailers I'm getting that sound so good that they're even tempting me, who knows better.

it's so slick how the feds have managed, under both parties, to destroy medicare without appearing to destroy medicare.

bipartisan accomplishments ✅

dark brandon keeps winning

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




there are so many war crimes happening right now that canada is getting hard

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

like, imagine a war room of lyin' peons coming up with "how about we starve medicare of funding while giving private insurers money to offer stuff like dental?

"then we'll market it so slickly that no one realizes that it's not actually medicare, and they might never again be able to get medicare benefits if they accept the private insurance?

"then, get this, we'll let the private insurers write better plans for union retirees so as to incentivize them into 'advantage' plans?

"and we'll target lower-income olds & offer poo poo like grocery money! 'Advantage' makes twice as much money for private insurers than they make off employer- and marketplace-provided insurance! It's win-win for them! And for us, the politicians who are owned & operated by donors!"

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
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sounds advantageous

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1710714432970465679?s=20

I'll be honest, I have never understood the Israel/Palestine conflict. Like, I get that the "acceptable" political opinion is that plucky little Israel can do no wrong, but I never understood any of the context around what's going on.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


Ohhhh so that's why everybody's so mad now. They actually hit back this time.

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord

the_steve posted:

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1710714432970465679?s=20

I'll be honest, I have never understood the Israel/Palestine conflict. Like, I get that the "acceptable" political opinion is that plucky little Israel can do no wrong, but I never understood any of the context around what's going on.

a bunch of american and european settlers genocided the natives op its not that complicated

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

alexa's a chud

quote:

Amid concerns the rise of artificial intelligence will supercharge the spread of misinformation comes a wild fabrication from a more prosaic source: Amazon’s Alexa, which declared that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

Asked about fraud in the race — in which President Biden defeated former president Donald Trump with 306 electoral college votes — the popular voice assistant said it was “stolen by a massive amount of election fraud,” citing Rumble, a video streaming service favored by conservatives.

The 2020 races were “notorious for many incidents of irregularities and indications pointing to electoral fraud taking place in major metro centers,” according to Alexa, referencing Substack, a subscription newsletter service. Alexa contended that Trump won Pennsylvania, citing “an Alexa answers contributor.”

mark immune
Dec 14, 2019

put the teacher in the cope cage imo
Nat turners unprovoked attacks on the good people of Virginia

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Bernie it is unacceptable to post anything except that the Israel occupation must end. Bad

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

the_steve posted:

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1710714432970465679?s=20

I'll be honest, I have never understood the Israel/Palestine conflict. Like, I get that the "acceptable" political opinion is that plucky little Israel can do no wrong, but I never understood any of the context around what's going on.

Yeah I've never understood it either. Like even a statement like "Isreal has a right to exist but Palestinians have human rights that must be respected" would be considered beyond the pale for any US politician.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


https://twitter.com/SloaneFragment/status/1710214728574706002

https://twitter.com/Nymphomachy/status/1710716095861313867

Libs sure starting to succ harder again on queer stuff.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


I hope this leads to libs/dems thinking twice about supporting censorship of wrong-think, just as the First is being used as the best defense against transphobes like desantis.

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RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

biting people at the WH makes him an excellent boy actually

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