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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
This seems to be a surprisingly common thing. I remember talking to a mate who came back from an area with rabies, and when I asked about it he said pretty much the same thing, "Nah didn't get vaccinated, if I get any symptoms I'll just get it checked.".

And it's not like he didn't do research on other risks with traveling there, or doesn't know how to research. Just had an idea that modern medicine was much better with dealing with illness like that than it actually is. I guess when your young and your used to a bit of rest or a prescription from a doctor sorting everything out, you can get into that mind set if you've never really seen otherwise.

Medical shows like House probably don't help that perception.

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Lt. Cock posted:

Whompst among us has not been friends with a giant pony blow up doll

Well, not a giant one.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Splicer posted:

There's no rabies in Ireland and telling non-irish people this has revealed that a surprising number of people seem to think going rabid is a thing some mammals just kinda do sometimes.

Same in the mainland UK and new zealand. Luckily, the diesease that makes you insanely and irrationally hydrophobic makes it difficult for the diesease to cross large bodies of water.

I actually don't think anyone here would have rabies "awareness" like you would in a place its endemic, which is probably a problem.

Drone_Fragger fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Oct 7, 2023

Altared State
Jan 14, 2006

I think I was born to burn

That's a moray :smuggo:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Guess he's not feeling eel

_____!
May 2, 2004


Altared State posted:

That's a moray :smuggo:

It's a yak:dadjoke:

Turpitude II
Nov 10, 2014

dr_rat posted:

This seems to be a surprisingly common thing. I remember talking to a mate who came back from an area with rabies, and when I asked about it he said pretty much the same thing, "Nah didn't get vaccinated, if I get any symptoms I'll just get it checked.".

And it's not like he didn't do research on other risks with traveling there, or doesn't know how to research. Just had an idea that modern medicine was much better with dealing with illness like that than it actually is. I guess when your young and your used to a bit of rest or a prescription from a doctor sorting everything out, you can get into that mind set if you've never really seen otherwise.

Medical shows like House probably don't help that perception.

house md had an episode where a woman got rabies from a bat and died in miserable agony though? it was pretty clear that rabies is bad and needs to be treated right away.

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

Baronjutter posted:

A local idiot just did that and died. Found a bat on the ground that was "acting weird" and decided to go film a tiktok about it or whatever and try to pick it up and play with it. Friends even told him about rabies and he of course was like "yeah if I feel bad I'll get checked out"



One of my favorite jokes from the good place.

bossy lady
Jul 9, 1983

Milo and POTUS posted:

Guess he's not eeling well

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


dr_rat posted:

This seems to be a surprisingly common thing. I remember talking to a mate who came back from an area with rabies, and when I asked about it he said pretty much the same thing, "Nah didn't get vaccinated, if I get any symptoms I'll just get it checked.".
To be fair, rabies isn't something you're vaccinated for to cover your bases and keep yourself well in advance of going somewhere it exists. If I were your friend, I wouldn't be worried either, unless I got bitten by a rabies-carrying animal while I was abroad.

Also, rabies is terrifying. It's not even a rational fear for me given my everyday life, but I started watching a YouTube video about rabies and I couldn't make it past a couple of minutes. (And I still would sound as blasé as your mate in his shoes.)

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
I think the better play is to get treated if you get bitten by a wild animal that could carry rabies without waiting to see if you feel symptoms.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Yeah, I thought rabies was one of those "if you start feeling the symptoms, it's probably too late" kinda diseases.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
This exchange is making me sweat thinking of the time one of my childhood cats came home with a still living bat, and my dad got it away from her, and we oohed and awwed over it and probably tried petting it.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Captain Hygiene posted:

Yeah, I thought rabies was one of those "if you start feeling the symptoms, it's probably too late" kinda diseases.

It is, IIRC there have been very few (as in like one or two) cases of someone coming down with rabies and actually getting successfully treated.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

Captain Hygiene posted:

Yeah, I thought rabies was one of those "if you start feeling the symptoms, it's probably too late" kinda diseases.

It is. Hell, you can take the "probably" out of that, it's considered 100% mortality rate.
There are around 60k human rabies fatalities per year. There are 30 known symptomatic survivors in all of recorded history.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

davidspackage posted:

This exchange is making me sweat thinking of the time one of my childhood cats came home with a still living bat, and my dad got it away from her, and we oohed and awwed over it and probably tried petting it.

Good news is! While bats are responsible for the bulk of rabies cases in the US, they as a population still have a very low infection rate. Around 1%, depending on the source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249890/

My folks live in a rural area and everyone's extremely bat paranoid. Like, I've known a farmer who euthanized their animals because a dead bat was found in her barn. They think the rabies rate in bats is way, way higher than the reality (some people here just think all bats carry rabies somehow, like it's a HIV>AIDS thing), and they kill them on sight.

I really like bats. :(

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
Bats are cool, but man they've been dealt a pretty raw deal. White nose syndrome is annihilating their populations over much of North America, and climate change is only going to allow it to spread farther.

So yeah if you find a sick bat it's probably not rabid, it's probably dying of a fungal infection. Either way, don't touch it.

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!

Mozi posted:

I think the better play is to get treated if you get bitten by a wild animal that could carry rabies without waiting to see if you feel symptoms.

From what I've seen in countries that have rabies, a single case of a wild animal bite from something that can carry it means the public health people get involved and the bitten person needs to go to the hospital. In practice, it might not work out that way all the time, but that's the general plan.

Hispanic! At The Disco
Dec 25, 2011


Dick Burglar posted:

Bats are cool, but man they've been dealt a pretty raw deal. White nose syndrome is annihilating their populations over much of North America, and climate change is only going to allow it to spread farther.

So yeah if you find a sick bat it's probably not rabid, it's probably dying of a fungal infection. Either way, don't touch it.

Y'know, they could have given the syndrome a name that doesn't make the bats sound like coke addicts.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Hispanic! At The Disco posted:

Y'know, they could have given the syndrome a name that doesn't make the bats sound like coke addicts.

We don't want to help the bats after they stole our tv and sold it to us

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010






By popular demand posted:

well a gallon of food oil is nearly 31,000 calories which is much more efficient.

I feel like LA Beast has done this.

Edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttC7KbE_uDo

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006
wow, I hope homie stocked up on maxi pads first

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

MSPain posted:

wow, I hope homie stocked up on maxi pads first

Still not as bad of a toilet experience as the sugar free gummy bears

Borscht
Jun 4, 2011
Hope he’s not on septic

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

Das Boo posted:

I really like bats. :(

Austin is one of the nicer cities in Texas for a lot of reasons, but one of them is they have caves full of bats down there and they eat up all the mosquitoes. You can walk around outside in the summertime evenings and just... not get bit. It's wild.

RatHat posted:

Still not as bad of a toilet experience as the sugar free gummy bears

Oh, if only it was on the toilet... In some other video he talks about making this one, and he said as he was sitting at his desk editing the footage he felt the oil just start running down his leg as it slipped out his rear end :gonk:

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

RatHat posted:

Still not as bad of a toilet experience as the sugar free gummy bears

Takes No Damage posted:

Oh, if only it was on the toilet... In some other video he talks about making this one, and he said as he was sitting at his desk editing the footage he felt the oil just start running down his leg as it slipped out his rear end :gonk:

Not just any gummy bears. A 5 pound pack of the legendarily infamous original recipe Hariibo sugar free gummy bears which have been likened to an improvised explosive device for your intestinal tract. Just eating 8-15 of those things in "take as many as you want" public bowls of candy has allegedly laid up an army office in the past to the point of them assuming it was some sort of flu outbreak, bringing in medics that had to run IV's from the extreme "fluid loss", and temporarily shutting down for the rest of the day.

Poor bastard was in so much pain after eating 5 pounds he just dead sprinted to the toilet at one point and forgot to stop filming. Sounded like someone dropped a cluster bomb into the toilet too.


Found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMjgaa5j_LE :nws: obviously if you want to watch a grown man almost immediately regret his life choices along with the panicked realization of oncoming agony of the inevitable result at the end after he fails to vomit it up. He does mention it's worse than the three liter tank of olive oil though.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Oct 8, 2023

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Probably massively overblown anecdotes but every noncaloric sugar substitute does that, this is how the body disposes of what it can't use.

Most sweeteners should be consumed at minute quantity, you could probably get your dihorrea going if just chew sugarless gum all day.

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

By popular demand posted:

Probably massively overblown anecdotes but every noncaloric sugar substitute does that, this is how the body disposes of what it can't use.

Most sweeteners should be consumed at minute quantity, you could probably get your dihorrea going if just chew sugarless gum all day.

To be fair, it helps to keep in mind that the original Haribo recipe was basically nothing but maltitol. Some mad genius at the company had the idea to put a ton of it into each gummy bear way over what you're supposed to have in it to try and sweeten the bears up. Then the company blithely sold multi pound bags of these things not knowing about what was wrong with the recipe until reports came in that just 10 or so gummy bears were straight up dehydrating people from the effects it has on the gut alongside crippling them from the weekend long induced making GBS threads sprees and gas pain maltitol causes in high doses due to them essentially selling a high powered laxative in multi-pound bag form.

Haribo changed the recipe and apologized pretty quickly before eventually ceasing sales of their sugar free gummy bears altogether once it came out what sort of traumatic experiences their sugar free gummy bears were producing but holy poo poo did it make for some hilarious stories for the time it lasted.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 8, 2023

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Weekend Long making GBS threads Spree is the title of the new Clowncore album.

Also as the people marketing Olestra chips learned: people never consume anything at 'recommended servings'. All you get is the knowledge that you gave consumers the runs.

By popular demand fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Oct 8, 2023

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

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Gotta nuke something

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Kind of like that yeah, except the cloud should be more brown

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Archonex posted:

Found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMjgaa5j_LE :nws: obviously if you want to watch a grown man almost immediately regret his life choices along with the panicked realization of oncoming agony of the inevitable result at the end after he fails to vomit it up. He does mention it's worse than the three liter tank of olive oil though.

Is this the video where you can hear his paramedic housemate verbally yell out something in shock from the other room?

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Humphreys posted:

Is this the video where you can hear his paramedic housemate verbally yell out something in shock from the other room?

You know, normally i'd do my due diligence to check but I don't want to have to repeatedly watch a video of a grown man nearly making GBS threads himself before obliterating the interior of the bowl of his toilet on camera.

If it wasn't that one it might be the video where he chugged a multi liter container of olive oil in one sitting. Dude basically lubed up his entire intestinal tract with that one.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Oct 8, 2023

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Most people don't lube nearly that deep.

Grey Cat
Jun 3, 2023

:catdrugs:


By popular demand posted:

Most people don't lube nearly that deep.

What the hell, is it just me?

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002

by VideoGames
Hell Gem

By popular demand posted:

Probably massively overblown anecdotes but every noncaloric sugar substitute does that, this is how the body disposes of what it can't use.

Most sweeteners should be consumed at minute quantity, you could probably get your dihorrea going if just chew sugarless gum all day.

Uh this is exactly 100% misleading garbage. It’s just physics.

The body isn’t magically “disposing of what it can’t use”. It also isn’t applicable to all sugar substitutes.

It’s just a normal effect of sugar alcohols. They’re in the laxative category of osmotic laxatives. Just like you remember from 6th grade chemistry it’s just osmosis. Sugar alcohols just set up a big osmotic gradient in your colon and solvent chases solute.

The sugar alcohols can’t leave the colon so liquid(ultra filtered plasma) crosses your colon membranes to try and equalize the concentration gradient between your colon and blood stream.

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Cool

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Bum the Sad posted:

Uh this is exactly 100% misleading garbage. It’s just physics.

The body isn’t magically “disposing of what it can’t use”. It also isn’t applicable to all sugar substitutes.

It’s just a normal effect of sugar alcohols. They’re in the laxative category of osmotic laxatives. Just like you remember from 6th grade chemistry it’s just osmosis. Sugar alcohols just set up a big osmotic gradient in your colon and solvent chases solute.

The sugar alcohols can’t leave the colon so liquid(ultra filtered plasma) crosses your colon membranes to try and equalize the concentration gradient between your colon and blood stream.

Yeah, the body doesn't just magically crap out anything that can have an adverse effect on it. There's an entire process and even things that make you uncomfortable have a reason for why that is.

Forbes did an article on the gummy bears (though they rated the amount of maltitol in it a lot lower than what folks seem to think it had. Hard to tell since the recipe was discontinued though.) way back when that explains the effects of maltitol on the human body.

quote:

When the indigestible parts of maltitol make it to your intestines they draw water into the digestive tract by osmosis. All that water gets things, uh, moving. For instance, it gets you moving in the direction of the nearest bathroom.

That’s not all. Your body can’t fully digest maltitol. But research shows it gets broken down somewhat into molecules like acetate and butyrate. Those compounds are good food for the bacteria that thrive in our guts. Those bacteria like to make gas. Hence the bloating and the—hey, did somebody step on a duck?

Sugar alcohols like maltitol are actually prescribed by doctors to help people poop. They’re called osmotic laxatives. A 2002 study found that 40 grams of Lycasin for an adult is enough to do it. So how many gummy bears will give you the runs?

Haribo doesn’t say how much lycasin was in each bear, but it was the first listed ingredient, meaning the largest by weight.
Gummy bear recipes put the amount of sweetener at about one-third of the total weight. And a little googling tells me a gummy bear weighs around 3 grams. That comes to about 20 bears to get your guts bubbling. Anecdotally, people say about 15 sugarfree bears did the trick. For a kid it would be even fewer.

TL;DR: They accidentally made osmotic laxative gummies by upping the amount of maltitol in every gummy to unwise levels for casual consumption. Then they sold the tiny gummies in multi pound bags. Cue hilarity.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Oct 8, 2023

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Dec 12, 2003

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Oct 11, 2013
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Bum the Sad posted:

Uh this is exactly 100% misleading garbage. It’s just physics.

The body isn’t magically “disposing of what it can’t use”. It also isn’t applicable to all sugar substitutes.

It’s just a normal effect of sugar alcohols. They’re in the laxative category of osmotic laxatives. Just like you remember from 6th grade chemistry it’s just osmosis. Sugar alcohols just set up a big osmotic gradient in your colon and solvent chases solute.

The sugar alcohols can’t leave the colon so liquid(ultra filtered plasma) crosses your colon membranes to try and equalize the concentration gradient between your colon and blood stream.

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