Военная хроника posted:

What oddities accompany the Hamas attack on Israel: a Military Chronicle breakdown

Each circumstance is important both individually and as a set of questions to Israel's security system.

Strangeness #1 - Israel was unaware of the preparations for the attack.

Gaza is a narrow piece of land of (https://t.me/milchronicles/2699) 365 square kilometers. It was thought to be bugged and watched by the Israeli army and intelligence services up and down, but the attack revealed that this was not the case. Supposedly, Hamas had developed a system for coordination and communication that excluded electronic contact, and somehow the Palestinians managed to hide everything from Israel's intelligence agencies.

Oddity #2 - Israel failed to prevent the attack.

Shortly before the October 7 strike on the checkpoints and major cities, Hamas was bringing in MLRS, ground forces, paragliders and other equipment in an organized manner. The preparations and first steps went unnoticed, no preemptive strike was launched.

Oddity #3 - the alarms on the border did not go off.

The electronic systems on the border, in the construction and equipment of which Israel has invested billions of dollars, proved useless. Numerous cameras and sensors also failed to detect and stop the Palestinian attack, as did the combat patrols, which for some reason were simply not around. Palestinian drones were quietly able to hit automatic machine guns and sensor turrets, and Hamas assault teams quietly blew up the fence and crossed the border. No one is trying to attack them. Hundreds of IDF soldiers have been killed right in the camps, in barracks, and sleeping because of a failed alarm system.

Oddity #4 - Hamas tactics.

Contrary to popular belief, the Palestinians did not bypass IDF fortifications and bases. They aggressively stormed (https://t.me/milchronicles/2691) both checkpoints and bases where armored vehicles were located. However, Hamas did not use tanks - apparently due to the low skill level of the attackers or lack of necessity. It is still unclear where the sentries, the guards on duty and the covering forces were at that time.

Oddity #5 - the readiness of combat equipment.

The Israeli Merkava Mk.4 tank destroyed by a copter drop was hit in one of the most unprotected areas - from above. The Trophy active defense system was apparently disabled. In the footage of the tank destruction and the capture of the crew, it is clearly visible that the vehicle's gun is shrouded. This suggests that the crew did not prepare the vehicle for combat and counted only on intimidation, which is not only a gross violation of instructions, but also simply stupid in such an attack.

Oddity #6 - panic in border towns.

All localities, especially in a region like the Gaza Strip, should have plans in place in case the conflict escalates. But there was no organized warning or evacuation. The local security forces were so small and poorly armed that they were quickly eliminated by the Palestinians.

Oddity #7 - the difference in coordination between the IDF and Hamas.

Until about noon on Oct. 7, the Israeli government had little response to the fighting. It is Saturday morning, Shabbat in the country. Only at 2-15 p.m. did security forces begin to round up reservists and organize retaliatory raids. However, the death of Yonatan Steinberg, commander of the Nahal Infantry Brigade, indicates a hasty response by what forces they could at least somehow muster at once. It appears that Nahal's intervention in the fighting against Hamas was initiated by the brigade commander and was not the result of a direct order from the General Staff.

That said, the IDF will presumably begin a military operation inside neighborhoods in the Gaza Strip in the next two days. However, operations in open terrain and in residential areas are different. An attempt by Israeli ground troops to enter the Palestinian enclave would almost certainly be accompanied by a high death toll on both sides.

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fizzy posted:

“All this technology, all this stuff we have done to keep ourselves safe, the army, it meant nothing. This country is a joke.”

Asproigerosis posted:

How is a military being propped up by the rest of the world with the most advanced gear getting their poo poo pushed in so hard by rag tag rebels?

ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.

Asproigerosis posted:

How is a military being propped up by the rest of the world with the most advanced gear getting their poo poo pushed in so hard by rag tag rebels?

smarxist posted:

ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.

Xander77 posted:

Turns out that if you keep murdering people, they will place you in a concentrated area and limit your ability to move freely. Pretending that that different states of Palestinians of Gaza, the Western Bank and Israel happened in a vacuum is a complete misrepresentation of historic fact.

Scarabrae posted:

😂

also I can’t believe I have to cancel Mark Hamill now

fizzy posted:

Clarifying news for ughhhh - It is more clear than ever that liberals simply don't regard Palestinians as human.

speng31b posted:

please don't turn this into a d&d mock thread there are like 3 other threads for that

ughhhh posted:

I and a lot of people online were hoping people at burning man got ebola so I don't know what kind of sympathy d&d expected people to have over that stupid rave near Gaza.

Stereotype posted:

I think both groups should have to leave the area and it should be turned into a nature preserve. seems fair

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ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.

Al-Saqr posted:

StashAugustine posted:

Someone really needs to get Biden alone at just the right amount of senility and show him all the Belfast PLO murals

ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.

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He said he contacted the emergency contact line set up for Canadians in Israel but was redirected to the Canadian Embassy. Segall said he was told the embassy
was closed for Thanksgiving, and requests for travel information and emergencies wouldn't be answered until after the long weekend.

ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.

fizzy posted:

Bad news for Hamas - The UAE has come out in support of Israel.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

you should check out what our local burning man attendant said about all this:

Homeless Friend posted:

i knew it was coming which is why i initially changed to title to cspams unequivocal support of terrorism lol

smarxist posted:

free al saqr, actually, promote him to admin for the duration of the third intifada, thank you.

Fellatio del Toro posted:

my grandfather died at a concentration camp

oh wow thats terrible!

he fell out of the DJ booth

ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.

smarxist posted:

free al saqr, actually, promote him to admin for the duration of the third intifada, thank you.

smarxist posted:

https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1711166210484633735

fukken... based...

ughhhh posted:

Pretty sure d&d has spent more time talking about how awful it was that white girls in dreads got killed in a rave than any Palestinian that got bombed or murdered.