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Xaris posted:the al-saqr curse will strike again... b careful isnt the curse that the side I'm against loses?
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gradenko_2000 posted:there's nothing to make excuses for. Israel sending settlers into occupied territory is a political, ideological act, designed to make the illegal settlements legal by fait acompli. That these people have to be shot in order to get them to leave, and for their shooting to then be used to delegitimize the liberation of the land is the entire point of putting them there. I'm not referring to that. I agree with this. What I'm referring to is how any armed conflict is going to involve brutality. These supposed allies will latch onto these incidents, helpfully focused exclusively in the media, and lose sight of the larger struggle taking place. Never mind the day to day violence that sparked this struggle. These allies must have a chaste movement and so they drop all support the moment the struggle becomes too real. It's very reminiscent of Parenti's comments about left anti-communists.
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Xaris posted:the al-saqr curse will strike again... b careful getting probed or getting banned for being right?
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Bad news for the prospects of a unity government in Israel - The various candidates for a unity government are setting terms and conditions for their participation in a unity government. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-urges-emergency-unity-government-with-gantz-ben-gvir-sets-condition/ Smotrich urges emergency unity government with Gantz; Ben Gvir sets condition 31min ago Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich calls on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and senior opposition figure MK Benny Gantz, a former IDF chief of staff and defense minister, to immediately form an emergency government to manage the war. The statement comes after a televised address by Gantz last night, in which he said he had told the prime minister on Saturday that he would be willing to join the government “with the intention of establishing a war cabinet that will direct the battlefront against Gaza and other fronts.” “Unity and cohesion are the imperative of the hour in order to defeat our enemies,” Smotrich says in a statement. “Never mind [negotiation] teams, and never mind negotiations.” Opposition Yisrael Beytenu party chief Avigdor Liberman also said Sunday he would join the current government. But he conditioned his support on Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, and IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi publicly announcing that the government intends to “eliminate the Hamas terror organization and all its terrorist leaders” and will not suffice with anything less. National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir, Netanyahu’s second senior far-right partner, echoes Liberman’s conditions, saying in a statement this morning that he will agree to a unity government only if its “stated goal is the total defeat of Hamas and the shattering of its military and political might.”
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Looking forward to the thousand year probation of the IDF as a whole.
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PhilippAchtel posted:I'm not referring to that. I agree with this. Good news for PhilipAchtel's understanding of the liberal mindset - The liberal mindset is indeed that "The current violent retaliation of the oppressed out-group retroactively vindicates the past violence inflicted by the in-group oppressors that provoked the out-group's current violence, and further justifies the future violence to be inflicted by the in-group oppressors in retaliation for the out-group's current violence."
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fizzy posted:Bad news for the prospects of a unity government in Israel - The various candidates for a unity government are setting terms and conditions for their participation in a unity government. Lmao I was expecting the left wing parties to use this as an opportunity to demand concessions on the way thr conflict is being handled, but I'm a dumb loving idiot for thinking that. Of course the concessions are to the even further right wing.
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Well heres hoping Iran isn't involved https://twitter.com/AJArabic/status/1711277816875208800
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so did they work this thing out yet or what
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Bad news for Palestinian forces in Sderot - Troops of the Paratroopers Brigade, including senior officers, are working to clear the southern city of Sderot of suspected Palestinians who infiltrated into Israel over the past two days. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-paratroopers-engaging-with-terrorists-in-sderot-in-bid-to-clear-city/ IDF says paratroopers engaging with 28min ago The Israel Defense Forces says troops of the Paratroopers Brigade, including senior officers, are working to clear the southern city of Sderot of suspected Palestinian “The Paratroopers Brigade is engaged in persistent fighting, during which the commanders and fighters of the brigade are carrying out searches in the towns and thwarting The IDF says the commander of the brigade, Col. Ami Biton, his deputy, the head of the brigade’s training base, and many other forces are searching Sderot and “purging the city of gunmen.”
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Good news for Commander of the IDF Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld - The Israel Defense Forces publishes a photo of the commander of the IDF Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld, directing the fighting against Hamas https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-releases-pic-of-gaza-division-commander-dispelling-rumor-he-was-killed/ IDF releases pic of Gaza Division commander, dispelling rumor he was captured by Hamas By EMANUEL FABIAN 27min ago The Israel Defense Forces publishes a photo of the commander of the IDF Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld, directing the fighting against Hamas The image comes to dispel unsubstantiated rumors on social media that the head of the Gaza Division had been captured during Hamas’s attack on Saturday morning. Hamas had raided the division’s base, the Re’im Camp, killing soldiers and capturing others. The IDF regained control of the base several hours later.
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Lpzie posted:im inside gaza right now, a lil stiff and tired from the long ride, but overall feeling spry. How was the rave though?
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Bad news for Hamas - Egypt has been snitching on Hamas to Israel. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egyptian-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/ Egyptian intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of ‘something big’ By AP 24 min ago An Egyptian intelligence official says Egypt, which often serves as a mediator between Israel and Hamas, had spoken repeatedly with the Israelis about “something big,” without elaborating. He says Israeli officials were focused on the West Bank and played down the threat from Gaza. Netanyahu’s government is made up of supporters of Jewish West Bank settlers who have demanded a security crackdown in the face of a rising tide of violence there over the last 18 months. “We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” says the official, who speaks on condition of anonymity because he isn’t authorized to discuss the content of sensitive intelligence discussions with the media.
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Death By The Blues posted:Well heres hoping Iran isn't involved Twitter translate has real problems with Arabic. Maybe it's the hashtags messing it up?
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The first day of the attack may have been the deadliest day for the IDF in all of its history. Even in the Yom Kippur war, the IDF averaged 150 dead per day.
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fizzy posted:Good news for PhilipAchtel's understanding of the liberal mindset - The liberal mindset is indeed that "The current violent retaliation of the oppressed out-group retroactively vindicates the past violence inflicted by the in-group oppressors that provoked the out-group's current violence, and further justifies the future violence to be inflicted by the in-group oppressors in retaliation for the out-group's current violence." 
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All arab dictator governments are Israeli whores so I'm glad Hamas doesnt count on them for anything. Arabs as a whole are under Israeli proxy occupation of military and monarchial fascists.
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Opposition leader Liberalman demands Netanyahu go even harder
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Bad news for fans of lackadaisical peace - The Israeli army says its paratroopers are “in a stubborn fighting,” as security forces carry out searches in the Sderot area. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-live-news-gaza-under-non-stop-bombardment Israeli paratroopers in ‘stubborn fighting’ in Sderot 1m ago (07:19 GMT) The Israeli army says its paratroopers are “in a stubborn fighting,” as security forces carry out searches in the Sderot area. A statement on X said that Israeli forces continued working to thwart Hamas fighters.
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genericnick posted:How was the rave though?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Opposition leader Liberalman demands Netanyahu go even harder
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Al! posted:ultralights seem like fun and games until you realize that the only thing keeping your testicles from the pavement 300 feet below you are a nylon sheet, a big box fan, and some bike parts 
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The deadliest day for the IDF so far
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Al-Saqr posted:Aljazeera is now reporting that Hamas has bagged even more IDF POWS today are you sure you're not reading kremlin propaganda?
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CODChimera posted:are you sure you're not reading kremlin propaganda? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgdxKgxJyuw
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fizzy posted:Good news for PhilipAchtel's understanding of the liberal mindset - The liberal mindset is indeed that "The current violent retaliation of the oppressed out-group retroactively vindicates the past violence inflicted by the in-group oppressors that provoked the out-group's current violence, and further justifies the future violence to be inflicted by the in-group oppressors in retaliation for the out-group's current violence." I think of my family as being pretty centrist, and they are on a lot of stuff, so I felt some regret after sending a screed that included a strongly worded stance on the conflict just because I don't really like provoking controversy with kin. I was kind of heartened when my brother replied, with a bunch of supporting facts, that he was as usual saddened but in no way surprised by what was going on and also that the tactics Hamas is using are the only/best tools they have available to advance their cause exactly because everything has been chiseled away and marginalized for so long, so, "what did Israel expect?", described Israel as "another brutal authoritarian regime" He also said that he more or less stopped talking about this stuff with anyone ~20 years ago after one too many cases of criticism of Israel being branded antisemitic which is incorrect and extremely unhelpful in having any kind of dialog  I was a little surprised to get this response (and agreement by way of silence from my dad, as is his way); it makes me wonder how many center-line dem voters there are out there who would, if it were entirely up to them, stop propping up Israel. I'm sure there's actual polling on this which I'd probably find depressing. edit: https://www.axios.com/2023/03/16/democrats-sympathize-more-palestinians-israelis-gallup I wonder what this poll looks like a month from now; I feel like a lot of these people are exactly the #freePalestine types who are now saying "no wait not like this"
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Bad news for the community of Be'eri in southern Israel - The community of Be'eri in southern Israel was "very badly hit" during an attack by Islamist militant group Hamas. https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/index.html Be'eri community near Gaza border "very badly hit," IDF says From CNN’s Richard Allen Greene and Sophie Jeong 1 hr 9 min ago The community of Be'eri in southern Israel was "very badly hit" during an attack by Islamist militant group Hamas, an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson said Monday. "We thought we would need more rooms [to house the evacuees]. We didn't need all the rooms,” Lt. Col. Richard Hecht said during a briefing. Israeli troops are still fighting in the kibbutz, though most Hamas militants there have been killed, Hecht added. Be'eri lies just three miles (5 kilometers) from Gaza's eastern border. Videos obtained and geolocated by CNN show that at least four civilians were killed while in Hamas custody, just feet from where armed militants had been escorting them in Be'eri.
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tatankatonk posted:The deadliest day for the IDF so far maybe they'll see gunthers warnings and not enter Gaza?
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Bad news for the vaunted prowess of the Israeli Defence Force - Israel is still not in full control of its territory along the border with Gaza. https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/index.html IDF says Israel is not in full control along the Gaza border as troops go "door to door" From CNN’s Yong Xiong 2 hr 20 min ago Israel is not in full control of its territory along the border with Gaza, an Israel Defense Forces (IDF) spokesperson told CNN on Sunday. “We are still hunting down the last terrorist inside Israeli territory," Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus said. “Our troops are going door to door and house to house, looking for, and in many cases, engaging with last terrorists inside Israel.” Conricus said there are still openings in the border, but they have been “temporarily patched up and guarded.” The IDF's assessment is that most of the remaining militants likely “crossed into Israel first, and then simply were not able to get back and were stuck in Israeli terrain and are now probably choosing to go out fighting and are trying to kill Israeli civilians or engaging with the Israeli troops," Conricus said. The IDF's goal now is to rid Hamas of its "military capabilities to fight and to harm Israeli civilians, and also achieve the situation where Hamas no longer has the ability to govern the Gaza Strip," he said. “Tomorrow morning, they will see a lot of their military infrastructure destroyed. And I think that there will be significant losses for Hamas," he said.
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Bad news for the popular support rating of the Israeli government - Families of some Israelis feared to have been taken hostage by Hamas militants on Sunday urged the government to provide answers about their loved ones. https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-attack-10-09-23/index.html Families of missing Israelis ask government for answers From CNN's Mitchell McCluskey 2 hr 57 min ago Families of some Israelis feared to have been taken hostage by Hamas militants on Sunday urged the government to provide answers about their loved ones. In a news conference broadcast by Israel's Channel 12, father Uri David said he had been on the phone with his two daughters for half an hour before they were believed to have been captured. "I heard heavy breathing and then no more answers to my phone. I want the whole world to see what I’m going through," David said. A mother at the news conference in the city of Ramat Gan, Meirav Leshem Gonen, said she was on the phone with her daughter as gunmen shot at the car she was in. Gonen said her daughter had begged for help as the militants approached. Gonen heard more shots fired — then the call ended. David and Gonen said they do not know the status of their children. Hostages taken: Hamas militants claimed Sunday to be holding more than 100 hostages in Gaza, including high-ranking Israeli army officers. Israeli authorities have said that dozens of hostages are being held in Gaza, but have not confirmed a precise number.
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Israeli Commander:- "my division was wiped out but it's all good I finally reassembled it it a couple hours later, wait whats that buzzing sound i hear overhead?"
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Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:just know that outside the barbarous west and hindutva replyguys most of the world's peoples support palestine, and even if it feels hopeless wherever you're from there are definitely other people like you, take solace that you definitely aren't alone the vast majority of the world's people don't care either way about Israel/Palestine (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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paul_soccer12 posted:Settlers are completely indispensable to the Israeli project of Palestinian dispossession. They're practically the tip of the spear I wouldn't call them legit military targets in the style of say a tank or whatnot but yeah characterizing them as civilians is simply not true, they are violating international law and are criminals. Settlers co-operate with the military to kill Palestinians. Obviously people are going to go "killing civilians bad" but Hamas isn't the ones who put them there, are they? You can't have this illegal occupation force, who are armed and backed by the army, state forces and whatnot and act like they are equivalent to some yahoo I might point to on the street.
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paul_soccer12 posted:As far as I know, we have basically 0 evidence they have succeeded in any significant military context, outside of catching the IDF with their pants literally down at one installation. It's only been one day, they are wildly outmatched in tech, they almost certainly aren't trained with any equipment they captured. I can't say I know what Hamas is specifically hoping to achieve, but they probably have very bad odds of holding territory for long, and I'm not convinced they DO have strong strategic leadership there's a pretty strong chance this operation is the result of war by commitee and internal hamas politics rather than well thought out, long term, strategic objectives which is pretty much how the vast majority of wars are started
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remember when a pack of rabid animal settlers waited for a palestinian family to go to the funeral of their son who was shot by the IDF so that they can run unsude and claim it for themselves and then shoot at the family who were coming back to their home from the funeral? wow what a group of innocent civilians
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Typo posted:the vast majority of the world's people don't care either way about Israel/Palestine Who care.
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