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fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/1711356155606245853?s=20

are americans in general gonna care as much about american citizens dying in israel? like they are all p much dual nationals right or like that UK citizen that was an IDF soldier?

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:26

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# ? May 24, 2024 21:43

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

Frosted Flake posted:

I have a book about that somewhere. They have a lot of expensive Russian equipment, Russian doctrine and striking power on paper but have dispersed their military to mostly fight the Islamic rebels the Algerian intelligence services� also created and supported?

Whatever the Algerian Army is, its political and state dimension outshadows pure military function, which makes it very hard to say. Whole villages were massacred within earshot of army garrisons during the civil war and the troops didn�t leave barracks.

fair enough

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:27

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

if hezbollah is committing to this, israel has a real problem on their hands.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:27

uninterrupted: Jun 20, 2011

HallelujahLee posted:

are they still talking about the rave and ignoring everything else

don't forget claims of rape who's sole bit of evidence is "all Muslims are swarthy rapists"

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:29

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Rectal Death Adept posted:

I don't know much about the conflict but wouldn't the weird amount of IDF commanders getting captured from their* homes or killed in the surprise attack be because they were getting the choicest stolen properties as they moved the line of warcrimes forward?

If you exterminate a family from a large estate they've inhabited for over a century it's probably going to go to someone with connections. Repeat on 1,000 families and a lot of this free* real estate near the border probably went to the big important commanders that got owned.

I guess they could have constructed penthouse apartments over the mass graves that the commanders can inhabit for a shorter commute to the warcrimes as well.

I mentioned this before but in a conscript/reserve military the only people at work on the weekend are the Duty Officer and Duty NCO.

If you stormed Petawawa or Kingston today (🇨🇦🦃) you would capture a bunch of captains, majors and warrant officers, and nobody else.

e: During the Cold War each side tried to get as much intelligence as possible on the manning of their counterparts during holidays. If people were being recalled from vacation, it was a big deal. Israel, apparently, after Yom Kippur, had maximum manning on the high holidays but I guess they've slackened since then.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 13:33 on Oct 9, 2023

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:29

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

uninterrupted posted:

don't forget claims of rape who's sole bit of evidence is "all Muslims are swarthy rapists"

yeah people were mentioning it earlier it doesnt surprise me but its still vile and disgusting all the same

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:29

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Aljazeera now reporting gunfire exchange on the western part of the lebanese border. Israeli helicopters are now flying in that direction

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:29

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Israel is now fighting a multi-front conflict.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:30

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

If Hezbollah actually comes into this Israel is loving doomed inshallah

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:31

Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

fits my needs posted:

https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/1711356155606245853?s=20

are americans in general gonna care as much about american citizens dying in israel? like they are all p much dual nationals right or like that UK citizen that was an IDF soldier?

did they die at the festival? if not then no lol

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:33

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Israeli channel 13 announcing that the infiltrators from lebanon have blown a section of the border fence and there is now gun fighting happening

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:35

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Al-Saqr posted:

If Hezbollah actually comes into this Israel is loving doomed inshallah

They can't afford to lose the support of Peter Daou and Mia Khalifa by dragging Lebanon into a war unprovoked.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:35

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Reuters: How Hamas duped Israel as it planned devastating attack

quote:

Oct 9 (Reuters) - A careful campaign of deception ensured Israel was caught off guard when the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched its devastating attack, enabling a force using bulldozers, hang gliders and motorbikes to take on the Middle East's most powerful army.

Saturday's assault, the worst breach in Israel's defences since Arab armies waged war in 1973, followed two years of subterfuge by Hamas that involved keeping its military plans under wraps and convincing Israel it did not want a fight. While Israel was led to believe it was containing a war-weary Hamas by providing economic incentives to Gazan workers, the group's fighters were being trained and drilled, often in plain sight, a source close to Hamas said. This source provided many of the details for the account of the attack and its buildup that has been pieced together by Reuters. Three sources within Israel's security establishment, who like others asked not to be identified, also contributed to this account.

"Hamas gave Israel the impression that it was not ready for a fight," said the source close to Hamas, describing plans for the most startling assault since the Yom Kippur War 50 years ago when Egypt and Syria surprised Israel and made it fight for its survival. "Hamas used an unprecedented intelligence tactic to mislead Israel over the last months, by giving a public impression that it was not willing to go into a fight or confrontation with Israel while preparing for this massive operation," the source said.

Israel concedes it was caught off guard by an attack timed to coincide with the Jewish Sabbath and a religious holiday. Hamas fighters stormed into Israeli towns, killing 700 Israelis and abducting dozens. Israel has killed more than 400 Palestinians in its retaliation on Gaza since then.

"This is our 9/11," said Major Nir Dinar, spokesperson for the Israeli Defence Forces. "They got us."

"They surprised us and they came fast from many spots - both from the air and the ground and the sea."

Osama Hamdan, the Hamas representative in Lebanon, told Reuters the attack showed Palestinians had the will to achieve their goals "regardless of Israel's military power and capabilities."

In one of the most striking elements of their preparations, Hamas constructed a mock Israeli settlement in Gaza where they practiced a military landing and trained to storm it, the source close to Hamas said, adding they even made videos of the manoeuvres. "Israel surely saw them but they were convinced that Hamas wasn't keen on getting into a confrontation," the source said. Meanwhile, Hamas sought to convince Israel it cared more about ensuring that workers in Gaza, a narrow strip of land with more than two million residents, had access to jobs across the border and had no interest in starting a new war.

"Hamas was able to build a whole image that it was not ready for a military adventure against Israel," the source said.

Since a 2021 war with Hamas, Israel has sought to provide a basic level of economic stability in Gaza by offering incentives including thousands of permits so Gazans can work in Israel or the West Bank, where salaries in construction, agriculture or service jobs can be 10 times the level of pay in Gaza. "We believed that the fact that they were coming in to work and bringing money into Gaza would create a certain level of calm. We were wrong," another Israeli army spokesperson said.

An Israeli security source acknowledged Israel's security services were duped by Hamas. "They caused us to think they wanted money," the source said. "And all the time they were involved in exercises/drills until they ran riot." As part of its subterfuge in the past two years, Hamas refrained from military operations against Israel, even as another Gaza-based Islamist armed group known as Islamic Jihad launched a series of its own assaults or rocket attacks.

The restraint shown by Hamas drew public criticism from some supporters, again aimed at building an impression that Hamas had economic concerns not a new war on its mind, the source said. In the West Bank, controlled by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and his Fatah group, there were those who mocked Hamas for going quiet. In one Fatah statement published in June 2022, the group accused Hamas leaders of fleeing to Arab capitals to live in "luxurious hotels and villas" leaving their people to poverty in Gaza.

A second Israeli security source said there was a period when Israel believed the movement's leader in Gaza, Yahya Al-Sinwar, was preoccupied with managing Gaza "rather than killing Jews". At the same time, Israel turned its focus away from Hamas as it pushed for a deal to normalise relations with Saudi Arabia, he added.

Israel has long prided itself on its ability to infiltrate and monitor Islamist groups. As a consequence, the source close to Hamas said, a crucial part of the plan was to avoid leaks.

Many Hamas leaders were unaware of the plans and, while training, the 1,000 fighters deployed in the assault had no inkling of the exact purpose of the exercises, the source added. When the day came, the operation was divided into four parts, the Hamas source said, describing the various elements.

The first move was a barrage of 3,000 rockets fired from Gaza that coincided with incursions by fighters who flew hang gliders, or motorised paragliders, over the border, the source said. Israel has previously said 2,500 rockets were fired at first. Once the fighters on hang-gliders were on the ground, they secured the terrain so an elite commando unit could storm the fortified electronic and cement wall built by Israel to prevent infiltration. The fighters used explosives to breach the barriers and then sped across on motorbikes. Bulldozers widened the gaps and more fighters entered in four-wheel drives, scenes that witnesses described.

A commando unit attacked the Israeli army's southern Gaza headquarters and jammed its communications, preventing personnel from calling commanders or each other, the source said.

The final part involved moving hostages to Gaza, mostly achieved early in the attack, the source close to Hamas said.

In one well-publicised hostage taking, fighters abducted party-goers fleeing a rave near the kibbutz of Re'im near Gaza. Social media footage showed dozens of people running through fields and on a road as gunshots were heard. "How could this party happen this close (to Gaza)?" the Israeli security source said. The Israeli security source said Israeli troops were below full strength in the south near Gaza because some had been redeployed to the West Bank to protect Israeli settlers following a surge of violence between them and Palestinian militants. "They (Hamas) exploited that," the source said.

Dennis Ross, a former Middle East negotiator who is now at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said Israel had been distracted by violence in the West Bank, leading to a "thin, under-prepared presence in the south."

"Hamas probably succeeded beyond their expectation. Now they will have to deal with an Israel determined to decimate them," he said.

Retired General Yaakov Amidror, a former national security adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told reporters on Sunday the assault represented "a huge failure of the intelligence system and the military apparatus in the south." Amidror, chairman of the National Security Council from April 2011-November 2013 and now senior fellow with the Jerusalem Institute for Strategy and Security, said some of Israel's allies had been saying that Hamas had acquired "more responsibility".

"We stupidly began to believe that it was true," he said. "So, we made a mistake. We are not going to make this mistake again and we will destroy Hamas, slowly but surely."

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:36

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

Hammerstein posted:

This is nothing compared to what is going on in my country, where the flag of Israel has been hoisted on the chancellery.

Not surprising though, when it comes to genocide my garbage country added a couple of chapters to the manual. Some of them so bad that it made even the Germans blush. The right wing around here loves Israel now, cause Bibi&friends are free to do what our Nazis can only dream about.

Lmao gently caress

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:37

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Al-Saqr posted:

Israeli channel 13 announcing that the infiltrators from lebanon have blown a section of the border fence and there is now gun fighting happening

plot twist, its the Taliban, they've been driving for 50 hours nonstop getting waved through every national border and now its party time babey

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:37

Rigged Death Trap: Feb 13, 2012; BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Youll find theat theyd have the unconditional support of Peter 'crack ping' Daou and mia khalifa

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:37

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

Cookie Cutter posted:

plot twist, its the Taliban, they've been driving for 50 hours nonstop getting waved through every national border and now its party time babey

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:38

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Lol at all the racist israelis in that article making GBS threads their pants and thinking Hamas couldnt actually plan and execute a brilliant strategy on purpose.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:39

ScootsMcSkirt: Oct 29, 2013

israel needs that george floyd dj guy now more than ever

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:40

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Al-Saqr posted:

Lol at all the racist israelis in that article making GBS threads their pants and thinking Hamas couldnt actually plan and execute a brilliant strategy on purpose.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:40

Tiler Kiwi: Feb 26, 2011

hamas sponsored retaliatory rave

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:41

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

theres at least one person who got shot to death at the music festival who was also at burning man lol

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:41

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

israel needs that george floyd dj guy now more than ever

shoutout to his family

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:42

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Al! posted:

theres at least one person who got shot to death at the music festival who was also at burning man lol

easily

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:42

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Al-Saqr posted:

Lol at all the racist israelis in that article making GBS threads their pants and thinking Hamas couldnt actually plan and execute a brilliant strategy on purpose.

The Israelis were confident the Egyptian Army could never cross the canal or Syria enter the Lebanon War.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt4H-JR4uuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avNSqA8q3DE

Their racial superiority stuff is so embedded that it's a honest to God liability.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:43

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/RozRothstein/status/1711331785953689672?s=20

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:43

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

Bono just thinks every music festival is about U2

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:46

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/RozRothstein/status/1711331785953689672?s=20

the one irish guy i wish the loyalists had got

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:47

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

Al! posted:

the one irish guy i wish the loyalists had got

haha

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:47

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

or was bono a unionist from the beginning???

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:48

keep punching joe: Jan 22, 2006; Die Satan!

Al! posted:

or was bono a unionist from the beginning???

Just a wanker.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:48

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

Zodium posted:

the expressed viewpoint is just whatever fits the real reason. same reason they're laser-focused on the rape of nova now. it's a matter of narrowing your vision until the information fits the real objective.

That's an elegant way of putting it.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:49

WoodrowSkillson: Feb 24, 2005; *Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Al-Saqr posted:

Israeli channel 13 announcing that the infiltrators from lebanon have blown a section of the border fence and there is now gun fighting happening

I hope this leads to change, this is going to get nasty as gently caress and Israel is already playing dirty. good luck to everyone but israel

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:50

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

NSC confirmed the 9 Americans reported killed were from the rave

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:51

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Oglethorpe posted:

i dont know hasan abi that well but that's a feel good clip

He's a highly progressive streamer with a massive audience that does a lot to influence the minds of younger folk. So boy do internet leftists hate him.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:51

mags: May 30, 2008; I am a congenital optimist.

keep punching joe posted:

Dunno about that Americans got pretty wild around about September 2001 and would say all sorts of evil poo poo all the time, on the TV, in newspapers, on these very forums.

my dad didn�t want me to wear my chemical brothers shirt because he said the font looked �arabic�

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:51

mags: May 30, 2008; I am a congenital optimist.

Buttchocks posted:

500 people got shot at an American music festival and everyone forgot about it a week later.

firearms are the leading cause of death of American children :911:

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:52

WoodrowSkillson: Feb 24, 2005; *Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Zerg Mans posted:

He's a highly progressive streamer with a massive audience that does a lot to influence the minds of younger folk. So boy do internet leftists hate him.

yeah every time i see a clip of him posted here and people getting mad its because i guess he is not 100% perfect in his views and makes a bunch of money from his twitch stream, but compared to nearly every other talking head filling kid's brains with nonsense i cannot for the life of me care one iota about hasan.

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:53

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Zodium posted:

every settler:

https://twitter.com/TheSyedHaq/status/1710559244360008074

This is like a Gogeta of horrible east coast person, greasy Italian body and haredi zionist head

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# ? May 24, 2024 21:43

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

What an awful thing to say about that walrus

# ? Oct 9, 2023 13:54

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