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Wingnut Ninja posted:HYT for an E-5 is 16 years, so it's entirely possible on active duty. Dunno what the recent advancement rates are for IT, though if a NAM is worth one point hopefully a NM is worth at least a couple. Some of my absolute favorite SNCOs to work under were red-striper E-6s and E-7s. Kinda like mustang officers, they just had a way less lovely vibe. (There were exceptions, of course. Not a hard and fast rule.)
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You get gold after 12 years regardless of NJP now. Usual snowflakes and participation trophies etc. (I was a gold first for like 3 months)
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Wingnut Ninja posted:HYT for an E-5 is 16 years, so it's entirely possible on active duty. Dunno what the recent advancement rates are for IT, though if a NAM is worth one point hopefully a NM is worth at least a couple. Thanks for the info regarding HYT. And no, he was insinuating that you should make chief before the 12 year point. I have no clue if he ever made it. He was kind of a lovely sailor so I assume he made senior chief.
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lightpole posted:In Honolulu for 2 days on the 11th, 25th and 8th if anyone is around and needs a drink. shoot me a dm. I'll be around
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Oct 9, 2023 19:12
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Godholio posted:Hale Koa's beach bar makes a well-priced and drat fine mai tai. quite literally one of the worst spots to grab a drink. cheap rear end booze is cheap for a reason. I'll kick in the extra few bucks to not drink plastic bottle liquor.
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McNally posted:I did a lot of research and have concluded that the Hale Koa has the best mai tai in Hawaii Rum fire Duke's Moku kitchen Hale Koa uses basement liquor. bottom shelf is a full floor above it.
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/MilitaryTimes/status/1710845479842414885?t=-9jufGTnuX2itIMOMO97cw&s=19 bro how the gently caress are you going to be a gold loving IT2?!!?! I made IT1 twice in 10 years.
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About the dude being a gold IT2. The only thing I can think of is that he cross-rated over and is not doing so great for test knowledge in an IWC rate. When I was active about a decade ago, we had a crossrate from the Seabees who was a good dude, great at Navy stuff, but struggled with IS work compared to peers. Thankfully we were Staff and were about to get him CAPed to IS2 and then he made IS1 eventually. If I needed Navy stuff done or interacting with ship's company that weren't Ops folks, he was my guy; if I needed intel analysis or a powerpoint done, I had another IS3/IS2 to do that.
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Nick Soapdish posted:About the dude being a gold IT2. The only thing I can think of is that he cross-rated over and is not doing so great for test knowledge in an IWC rate. When I was active about a decade ago, we had a crossrate from the Seabees who was a good dude, great at Navy stuff, but struggled with IS work compared to peers. Thankfully we were Staff and were about to get him CAPed to IS2 and then he made IS1 eventually. If I needed Navy stuff done or interacting with ship's company that weren't Ops folks, he was my guy; if I needed intel analysis or a powerpoint done, I had another IS3/IS2 to do that. literally both times I made IT1 I had nothing but my 3.6 PMA straight up 3.0 P evals, only had 4 award points. no time in rate. made it first time up both times up. If you cant make IT1 you should not be an IT period. It's like 30+% to IT1. So every 6 months the top 30% rolls off. If you cant eventually be in that top 30% rerate BM.
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Nick Soapdish posted:About the dude being a gold IT2. The only thing I can think of is that he cross-rated over and is not doing so great for test knowledge in an IWC rate. When I was active about a decade ago, we had a crossrate from the Seabees who was a good dude, great at Navy stuff, but struggled with IS work compared to peers. Thankfully we were Staff and were about to get him CAPed to IS2 and then he made IS1 eventually. If I needed Navy stuff done or interacting with ship's company that weren't Ops folks, he was my guy; if I needed intel analysis or a powerpoint done, I had another IS3/IS2 to do that. Gonna agree with this take.
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Let people do what they're good at, try to help them get better at the poo poo they're not good at... Doesn't seem like rocket science?
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Wibla posted:Let people do what they're good at, try to help them get better at the poo poo they're not good at... Doesn't seem like rocket science? Unfortunately in my experience 60-80% of IT's are trash. Can barely follow the MRC's even if they do they have no comprehension of what they are actually doing. Constantly zeroized the SKL. Frequent security violations. The few good one's usually jump ship after 8-10 years when they know enough to get contract jobs. In my experiences my ITC's barely knew how to log into NMCI. I had one who was good at KMI, but he was a vault rat and couldn't tech to save his life, he couldn't chief either, but that's another discussion. The biggest issue is A and C schools basically now have a zero wash policy. They WILL push you through. Back in my day if you failed A+. you washed out of A school, if you failed Sec+ you washed out of C school and were basically reduced to being a radioman only as admin rights required Sec+ ( and still does for all other branches). Without a wash mechanism to weed out the tards we get stuck with a ton of IT2's who dont know poo poo from shoeshine due to the 100% advancement rate to E5.
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Wibla posted:Let people do what they're good at, try to help them get better at the poo poo they're not good at... Doesn't seem like rocket science? And yet it completely escapes so many SNCOs.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:And yet it completely escapes so many SNCOs. SNCO's are too busy eating cookies in the mess and sniffing their own jenkem to notice what the JE actually do. Unless of course its a thick E3 latina.
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Arione posted:Unfortunately in my experience 60-80% of IT's are trash. Can barely follow the MRC's even if they do they have no comprehension of what they are actually doing. I got to do an audit of IT div's 3M deck on the 22. 75% of their cards had a note like "we don't know how to do this" and then they just.... didn't do it.
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Arione posted:Rum fire Why would you want to mix good liquor with fruit juice? You drink good liquor neat and your use crap liquor with mixers.
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McNally posted:Why would you want to mix good liquor with fruit juice? You drink good liquor neat and your use crap liquor with mixers. My guy, you are drinking the wrong mai tais. In fact they probably arent even actual mai tais. There is absolutely zero fruit juice in a maitai, only 1 oz of citrus (lime) 2 ounces of 17-year-old J. Wray Nephew Jamaican Rum ( any aged gold rum will do, I prefer Zacapa XO or diplomatico blue) ½ ounce Holland De Kuyper Orange Curaçao (contreau is a better substitute) ½ ounce French Garnier Orgeat (almond syrup, sold as orgeat syrup in most higher end liquor stores usually by finest call or trader vic's DO NOT BUY TORANI ALMOND) ¼ ounce Rock Candy Syrup (made your own simple syrup, but use rock sugar instead of granulated) Juice from one whole lime
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Elviscat posted:I got to do an audit of IT div's 3M deck on the 22. color me shocked. now send the whole division to NJP
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Hale Koa has the best tasting mai tai on Oahu regardless of the price of its constituent ingredients, but if you wanna pay 3x the price for a worse mai tai at Duke's then go right ahead. (p.s. if there's no orgeat syrup in it it's just sparkling tropical cocktail)
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McNally posted:Why would you want to mix good liquor with fruit juice? You drink good liquor neat and your use crap liquor with mixers. That'd a damned bad take. Fruit juice can rescue bad booze, but good booze can elevate fresh fruit.
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McNally posted:Why would you want to mix good liquor with fruit juice? You drink good liquor neat and your use crap liquor with mixers. Youre a bad person and I hope you feel bad about this toxic masculinity. Don't tell me how to drink my liquor. I want some fresh strawberries blended in, maybe a little bit of lime juice, and I'm gonna enjoy the gently caress out of it.
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Yeah it’s ok some people just have bad tastes.
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lightpole posted:Youre a bad person and I hope you feel bad about this toxic masculinity. Don't tell me how to drink my liquor. I want some fresh strawberries blended in, maybe a little bit of lime juice, and I'm gonna enjoy the gently caress out of it. you must be a sub guy.....
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I'm a civilian in the merchant marine. Crab Dad and I started building relations in June so I figured I should continue the effort.
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lightpole posted:I'm a civilian in the merchant marine This is a Navy thread, pack your bags so we can RHIB you ashore.
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Arione posted:This is a Navy thread, pack your bags so we can RHIB you ashore. Except the crane on the LPD works around 25% of the time so it’ll be half a day before the rhib can get in the water.
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Hekk posted:Except the crane on the LPD works around 25% of the time so it’ll be half a day before the rhib can get in the water. I'm from the Zumwalt's, we just poo poo the boat out of back from our wet bay.
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Arione posted:Rum fire Duke's and Moku were also good. But I don't do $18 drinks often.
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What I remember from drinking at the Hale Koa bar is having a lot of fun, and getting an awful headache from all the sugar before I could catch a buzz.
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Arione posted:color me shocked. now send the whole division to NJP Only Nukes are trained to do things like "know that maintenance is not optional" on submarines, sorry. E: sorry to my coner compatriots, but I watched 2 nukes get masted, suspended busts and ½ months x 2 for a tagout violation that had no adverse effect on people or equipment, then watched 2 a-gangers get their's dismissed after blowing all of aft trim into the bilge because they didn't "have the right level of knowledge" when they guessed what position a valve was in and hung a tag on it. Elviscat fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Oct 9, 2023 |
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I've met very few good ITs but I think at this point it's easier for me to say I've met very few good Sailors in general. I don't know if it's c schools getting easier/worse, curriculum development, all the bullshit a Sailor has to do thats not his job, etc but everytime I'm onboard for a tech assist or an install I have to fix like 40 other things and give a weeks worth of training.
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PneumonicBook posted:I've met very few good ITs but I think at this point it's easier for me to say I've met very few good Sailors in general. I don't know if it's c schools getting easier/worse, curriculum development, all the bullshit a Sailor has to do thats not his job, etc but everytime I'm onboard for a tech assist or an install I have to fix like 40 other things and give a weeks worth of training. Yeah, plus the Navy focuses more on how well you slob a knob rather than if you know your job. To make matters worse IT's dont even do the entire A school curriculum any more. They get half of it (3 months) sent to the fleet, and then they go back to san diego or Pensacola for "part 2" like 6 months to a year later. and then its only 2 weeks.
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Arione posted:Yeah, plus the Navy focuses more on how well you slob a knob rather than if you know your job. To make matters worse IT's dont even do the entire A school curriculum any more. They get half of it (3 months) sent to the fleet, and then they go back to san diego or Pensacola for "part 2" like 6 months to a year later. and then its only 2 weeks. They tried to do that with FC's for a long time. They called it master/journeyman/apprentice and the idea was you'd get more technical training the longer you were in because the Navy was sick of losing FC/FCA's after one enlistment. It never happened though.
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Dukes has the best Brunch Kalapawai Deli has the best breakfast burrito Lanikai is the best beach with the best rotating volleyball crew. The 3am hot dog guy has retired and all hope is lost. Nashville's remains the lmao option Thus I have spoken and made such truths known
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Arione posted:I'm from the Zumwalt's, we just poo poo the boat out of back from our wet bay. I spent a day on the Zum back in 2018 and I distinctly remember running into a bunch of engineers of trying to solve the problem of water shortening out the electric motor for the wet bay door. lol
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Arione posted:My guy, you are drinking the wrong mai tais. In fact they probably arent even actual mai tais. There is absolutely zero fruit juice in a maitai, only 1 oz of citrus (lime) Rock candy syrup is typically just 3:1 simple syrup. I make mine with demerara sugar for a hint of molasses flavor. You can also make your own orgeat if you’re a psycopath; It’s just fresh-pressed almond milk made into a 2:1 simple syrup. (Adjust your syrup to account for the liquid you used to make the almond milk.) Also, strong recommend for Smith and Cross rum. Why yes I’m on a slippery slope, why do you ask?
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MrYenko posted:Rock candy syrup is typically just 3:1 simple syrup. I make mine with demerara sugar for a hint of molasses flavor. You can also make your own orgeat if you’re a psycopath; It’s just fresh-pressed almond milk made into a 2:1 simple syrup. (Adjust your syrup to account for the liquid you used to make the almond milk.) Sounds more like a sticky slope to me.
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M_Gargantua posted:
The one outside otooles or mooses because either is a travesty?
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Laranzu posted:The one outside otooles or mooses because either is a travesty? I thought Mooses burnt down/went under?
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