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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1711404032768594207 hey. hey now. the chicxulub meteor's level of destruction is an aspirational goal for today's republican party. don't poo poo-talk it
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I'm hoping McCarthy winds up with the speakership again mostly because it would be extremely funny
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I wouldn't say no to another round of marathon voting for Speaker. That was some quality entertainment.
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I hope the house elects a speaker and then removes them the same day. The funniest option would be
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mccarthy ends back up as speaker of the house, after bargaining away to matt gaetz the option to give him a mighty kick in the balls whenever the mood comes over him. mccarthy is very smug about his political acumen
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James Garfield posted:I hope the house elects a speaker and then removes them the same day. The funniest option would be Every morning, they elect a new speaker. Every evening, they move to vacate.
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I'm a total dumbass about this, but are there laws that regulate a judge recusing themselves? It seems like that would be incredibly difficult to define, and all recusals I've heard have been voluntary to be all "Ceasars wife" about things.
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I ate a probation for posting the Hamas attack headline and article. It was in giant bold type on every American news outlet I look at and certainly seems USCE adjacent at a minimum. It seems to be generating a lot of discussion here but I don't want another time out. So... Is there another thread that we should be discussing this issue that's more appropriate? BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Oct 10, 2023 |
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Oct 10, 2023 00:17
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Agents are GO! posted:Every morning, they elect a new speaker. Every evening, they move to vacate. The Republican speaker election is simply a real life embodiment of Vault 11 from FONV.
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BiggerBoat posted:I ate a probation for posting the Hamas attack headline and article. Yes, there is an I/P thread in this very sub. It’s a general I/P thread and not specific to current events but it’s where the posting is.
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Silly Burrito posted:Absolute stupid power corrupts absolutely
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https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1711533159735607547?s=46&t=A_iY-gupVf13dcIJPetZhQ That’s two off the board for Scalise or Jordan. Doubt they’re the only two. I really don’t see how they elect a speaker from here.
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Agents are GO! posted:Every morning, they elect a new speaker. Every evening, they move to vacate. Every law student, history major, and kid needing to take the AP American history test in the next five years just cursed your name and they don’t know why.
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is there any research on whether absolutely horrifying stuff that is also kind of inside baseball move the needle on the voter's intentions at all? like, sure this is all a staggering display of incompetence and the continuation of the long running breakdown of our modern political system, but does anyone actually notice? the government hasn't even shut down yet
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You guys really need a rule that if the speakers chair is vacant for more than X days or if Supply fails then the President is empowered to call an election.
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Oracle posted:Every law student, history major, and kid needing to take the AP American history test in the next five years just cursed your name and they don’t know why. McCarthy, McHenry, McCarthy, the next name on McCarthy's list, McCarthy, the third name on McCarthy's list, Gaetz (just so the house can move to vacate him 415-20), McCarthy, Skillings. Did I get it right?
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Oracle posted:Every law student, history major, and kid needing to take the AP American history test in the next five years just cursed your name and they don’t know why. The year of the four speakers.
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Nervous posted:McCarthy, McHenry, McCarthy, the next name on McCarthy's list, McCarthy, the third name on McCarthy's list, Gaetz (just so the house can move to vacate him 415-20), McCarthy, Skillings. Did I get it right? Pelosi for 15 minutes (so she can give herself her office back)
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If McCarthy was smart he would've preemptively resigned being Speaker when Gaetz started signalling and pull a Mao/Achilles and then just go radio silent/no comment until the Republicans come back to him hat in hands after flailing around for a few rounds unable to elect a new speaker; only agreeing to be speaker if given full confidence. No matter how long it takes. That's the only way to win this sort of brinkmanship in my opinion if "regular" horse trading wasn't going to suffice to give a secure enough speakership.
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Raenir Salazar posted:If McCarthy was smart Yes, well.
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Sarcastro posted:Yes, well. yeah, there are few things as bi-partisan in DC as "Kevin McCarthy is a gd moron"
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It only need six anti-Trumpers, right?
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deoju posted:I'm a total dumbass about this, but are there laws that regulate a judge recusing themselves? It seems like that would be incredibly difficult to define, and all recusals I've heard have been voluntary to be all "Ceasars wife" about things. Several years back, the then conservative majority adopted a rule that said recusal would be at the discretion of the justices themselves. This was done so then Chief Justice Patience Roggensack would not have to recuse herself from a case involving a real estate group (have I mentioned the rule itself was suggested by the real estate group?). 
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Raenir Salazar posted:If McCarthy was smart he would've preemptively resigned being Speaker when Gaetz started signalling and pull a Mao/Achilles and then just go radio silent/no comment until the Republicans come back to him hat in hands after flailing around for a few rounds unable to elect a new speaker; only agreeing to be speaker if given full confidence. No matter how long it takes. That's the only way to win this sort of brinkmanship in my opinion if "regular" horse trading wasn't going to suffice to give a secure enough speakership. This is also known as the Tsar Ivan IV maneuver, and requires a whole lot more spine/psychopathy than McCarthy has shown himself capable of carrying off.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:mccarthy ends back up as speaker of the house, after bargaining away to matt gaetz the option to give him a mighty kick in the balls whenever the mood comes over him. mccarthy is very smug about his political acumen Every time it happens, a tearful McCarthy gives a presser complaining that the Democrats didn't physically stop Matt Gaetz from kicking him in the balls.
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It seems to me that McCarthy is suddenly floating his name for a come back, because he was too loving stupid to realize nobody else can win the vote until the race to replace him started. Which, in an odd moment of serendipity is almost the move a smart person would have made. Except he threw a tantrum when he should have just magnanimously "stepped aside" to let everyone else see there was nobody else both dumb enough to run and capable of winning. The funny thing is Scalise seems to have actually thought he could win.
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McCarthy may believe, or have believed, that the position was so toxic that once he stepped out, things would spiral so poorly that he'd be able to negotiate reentry on more favorable terms.
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Melomane Mallet posted:Several years back, the then conservative majority adopted a rule that said recusal would be at the discretion of the justices themselves. This was done so then Chief Justice Patience Roggensack would not have to recuse herself from a case involving a real estate group (have I mentioned the rule itself was suggested by the real estate group?). Hey now, conservative hypocrisy sucks but there's no need to come up with goofy fake rude insult-names for them, what are you even trying to imply by distorting their name like that from (checks notes) what the gently caress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patience_D._Roggensack
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ElegantFugue posted:Hey now, conservative hypocrisy sucks but there's no need to come up with goofy fake rude insult-names for them, what are you even trying to imply by distorting their name like that from (checks notes) what the gently caress Sounds like a name from One Piece
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Discendo Vox posted:McCarthy may believe, or have believed, that the position was so toxic that once he stepped out, things would spiral so poorly that he'd be able to negotiate reentry on more favorable terms. While I think it's very likely that the new rule remove the ability for Gaetz to gently caress everything up on his own, I don't buy that he actually thought he was coming back.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:mccarthy ends back up as speaker of the house, after bargaining away to matt gaetz the option to give him a mighty kick in the balls whenever the mood comes over him. mccarthy is very smug about his political acumen A hundred years from now, gas-pedaling the Speaker's dick and balls every morning will be seen as an august tradition of the venerable House, its origins shrouded in time
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Failed Imagineer posted:A hundred years from now, gas-pedaling the Speaker's dick and balls every morning will be seen as an august tradition of the venerable House, its origins shrouded in time what happens if the speaker of the house does not possess male genitalia?
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Natty Ninefingers posted:what happens if the speaker of the house does not possess male genitalia? In that unlikely event, a dick and balls will be provided to the successful applicant.
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Failed Imagineer posted:In that unlikely event, a dick and balls will be provided to the successful applicant. If they haven't already claimed it themselves. 
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Failed Imagineer posted:A hundred years from now, gas-pedaling the Speaker's dick and balls every morning will be seen as an august tradition of the venerable House, its origins shrouded in time What about gentle backdoor negotiations? (I'm so glad gas pedaling has entered the lexicon.)
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Agents are GO! posted:What about gentle backdoor negotiations? Certainly, but all processes going through the backdoor may be subject to filibustering
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Gyges posted:It seems to me that McCarthy is suddenly floating his name for a come back, because he was too loving stupid to realize nobody else can win the vote until the race to replace him started. Which, in an odd moment of serendipity is almost the move a smart person would have made. Except he threw a tantrum when he should have just magnanimously "stepped aside" to let everyone else see there was nobody else both dumb enough to run and capable of winning. Eh, I think it was actually a clever move. Scalise and Jordan probably wouldn't be falling apart nearly as badly if McCarthy had been in the race from the start, since they and the media both would have been able to put their primary focus on McCarthy. By pretending to back out, he left them without an easy target to agree on, and ensured their descent into maximum clownshow bullshit. Now that they've sufficiently embarrassed themselves in front of everyone, he can come back in and start reminding people that Scalise and Jordan don't have to be the only options.
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Republican caucus meeting today to try and get a firm gauge of support for each candidate and get the caucus to pick a Speaker with one round of voting. Doesn't look like it is currently possible for anyone to get a majority, but they aren't sure how many people are posturing for negotiating purposes and how many people will follow through on their promise to only ever vote for one candidate. Party leaders aren't confident that they will resolve it this week, but we will have a clearer picture by the end of today. McCarthy continues to say he is absolutely not a candidate and not asking anyone to support him, but says he would accept the Speakership again if the caucus unified and asked him. Jim Jordan appears to have the most support, but he still only has about 20% of the required votes from people publicly supporting him. Most of the caucus is not announcing their preferences publicly. https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1711721825338613894 quote:The Republicans vying to be the next House speaker will make their case to GOP lawmakers Tuesday, the first formal step to settle a race triggered a week ago after an internal revolt ousted Speaker Kevin McCarthy and left the House leaderless. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 10, 2023 |
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