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Cassette Moodcore posted:gently caress the Israeli government, free Palestine, it annoys the hell out of me people in America blindly support Israel even calling it all "terrorism" is a deliberate negation of Palestine. it can't be a war, or an invasion because that would be admitting that Palestine is real
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Hammerstein posted:And he's right. After the Yom Kippur war they had to painstakingly recreate the myth of the invincible IDF, by huffing their own farts. In 2006 that myth got more cracks and over the last days Hamas shattered that illusion, together with the chimera of all-seeing, all-knowing Mossad. for a supposedly defeated military they sure are doing a lot of bombings
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:let me tell you how seriously they take that duty palestinians thought the world would give a gently caress when they marched towards the walls in peace only to get murdered by IDF snipers like they were game animals in the thousands. as it turns out the world western libs/leftists just want the palestinians to gently caress off and die in silence
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Typo posted:for a supposedly defeated military they sure are doing a lot of bombings idk how you'd classify carpet bombing civilians as a win. is the las vegas shooter the biggest winner you know?
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Typo posted:for a supposedly defeated military they sure are doing a lot of bombings The Germans reduced Stalingrad to rubble. I guess that was them winning?
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you expect the usual frothing madness from Likud types. the sensible liberal zionists explaining that the policy of containing gaza has failed, and so it will be necessary to physically remove every gazan, that is a development I would have figured needed another day or so to crop up
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Typo posted:for a supposedly defeated military they sure are doing a lot of bombings Defeated in the sense of that their aura of total superiority was broken. Now they will mobilize and commit some of the worst atrocities since Babi Yar.
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Cassette Moodcore posted:gently caress the Israeli government, free Palestine, it annoys the hell out of me people in America blindly support Israel It makes no sense. 100% of the countries we support are transactional, we give x to get y. Except Israel. We've proven we can install friendly Islamic leaders, what the gently caress is the purpose in supporting Israel now?
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Grem posted:It makes no sense. 100% of the countries we support are transactional, we give x to get y. Except Israel. We've proven we can install friendly Islamic leaders, what the gently caress is the purpose in supporting Israel now? To evangelicals, bringing about the promised apocalypse.
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Al! posted:idk how you'd classify carpet bombing civilians as a win. is the las vegas shooter the biggest winner you know? he has a rely high kdr thats for sure
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Apparently a gathering of journalists in Gaza where targeted by an airstrike with three confirmed dead. The update in the morning is going to be horrific, Israel has been bombing non stop. https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1711537538718896440 https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1711533213728838080
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how bad is it in Gaza? edit: because I just got up and it seems real bad
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crepeface posted:how bad is it in Gaza? its been really really bad for decades
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Norman Finkelstein will solve this just wait
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Al! posted:hey frosted flake do they make any ammunition where the primer and powder are separated and ignited by striking the middle from the side? lol yeah, mercury fulminate, like on rimfire ammunition. Al! posted:i guess im asking is, could it be classified as a rim-fire warehouse? drat it lol I knew your question was too specific. I should recognize a fellow primary explosives aficionado. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 01:53 on Oct 10, 2023 |
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Malleum posted:you shouldnt sleep on the d&d thread, theres an honest to god hasbra reg that bought an account this morning to defend israels e-honor lmao it's nice to know this dump is still relevant enough to waste the shekels on 
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Good news for Israel - The United Arab Emirates has reportedly warned the Assad regime in Syria not to enter the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/uae-said-to-warn-assad-against-joining-hamas-conflict-against-israel/ UAE said to warn Assad against joining Hamas conflict against Israel Today, 3:26 am The United Arab Emirates has reportedly warned the Assad regime in Syria not to enter the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas. Abu Dhabi has also warned Damascus not to allow any attacks against Israel from its soil, the Axios news site reports, citing two sources briefed on the matter. The diplomacy is part of a US-led effort to prevent Hezbollah and other parties from joining the ongoing war.
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crepeface posted:how bad is it in Gaza? it seems to be somewhere between moderate civillian terror and total sterilization of the gaza strip i'm hoping it's not as bad as some people ITT are making it out to be personally, but yeah it seems really really bad Engorged Pedipalps has issued a correction as of 01:58 on Oct 10, 2023 |
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GI Joe jobs posted:Norman Finkelstein will solve this just wait Have Roger Waters or Brian Eno spoken since this all kicked off?
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Atrocious Joe posted:They're all Franks anyway if they wanted to be called franks they should have kept speaking frankish Typo posted:bernadotte was the best king eeh
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:it seems to be somewhere between mild civillian terror and total sterilization of the gaza strip Operation total sterilization is in action they just aren't calling it that directly. Wow betide any who disrespect the techno dance concerts.
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:it seems to be somewhere between mild civillian terror and total sterilization of the gaza strip dude they cut off their water supply
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:To evangelicals, bringing about the promised apocalypse. I always see this brought out and it seems like a post hoc rationalization, like how US neocons worked to twist US Catholicism to support what the US was already up to in Latin America. I mention this because when real-deal American Evangelicals first went to the Middle East, their focus was on the Arabs, not the Jews. Artillery of Heaven: American Missionaries and the Failed Conversion of the Middle East (Why yes, I did first read this book years ago because of the title) The complex relationship between America and the Arab world goes back further than most people realize. In Artillery of Heaven, Ussama Makdisi presents a foundational American encounter with the Arab world that occurred in the nineteenth century, shortly after the arrival of the first American Protestant missionaries in the Middle East. He tells the dramatic tale of the conversion and death of As'ad Shidyaq, the earliest Arab convert to American Protestantism. The struggle over this man's body and soul—and over how his story might be told—changed the actors and cultures on both sides. In the unfamiliar, multireligious landscape of the Middle East, American missionaries at first conflated Arabs with Native Americans and American culture with an uncompromising evangelical Christianity. In turn, their Christian and Muslim opponents in the Ottoman Empire condemned the missionaries as malevolent intruders. Yet during the ensuing confrontation within and across cultures an unanticipated spirit of toleration was born that cannot be credited to either Americans or Arabs alone. Makdisi provides a genuinely transnational narrative for this new, liberal awakening in the Middle East, and the challenges that beset it. By exploring missed opportunities for cultural understanding, by retrieving unused historical evidence, and by juxtaposing for the first time Arab perspectives and archives with American ones, this book counters a notion of an inevitable clash of civilizations and thus reshapes our view of the history of America in the Arab world.
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Al! posted:dude they cut off their water supply And food. They can just bomb anything with a roof then wait.
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Al! posted:dude they cut off their water supply yeah dude i know the reality is probably close to as bad as it can be and it's loving me up so i'm trying to hope they're not just incinerating the entire strip block by block
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:it seems to be somewhere between mild civillian terror and total sterilization of the gaza strip Engorged Pedipalps posted:it seems to be somewhere between moderate civillian terror and total sterilization of the gaza strip 
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Bad news for the popular support rating of the current Israeli government - The ironclad social contract that Israeli citizens would serve in the military and live along enemy borders, and in exchange the army would defend them, was shattered Saturday when hundreds of Hamas https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-one-to-talk-to-israelis-feel-abandoned-by-trusted-army-after-terror-assault/ ‘No one to talk to’: Israelis feel abandoned by trusted army after terror assault By AP and TOI STAFF Today, 2:21 am It was, they thought, an ironclad social contract. Israeli citizens would serve in the military and live along enemy borders. In exchange, the army would defend them. That contract was shattered Saturday when hundreds of Hamas terrorists breached Israel’s defenses from the Gaza Strip, pouring in by air, land, and sea on a murderous rampage that would leave hundreds dead. The infiltration caught Israel’s storied high-tech army completely unaware and stunned a country that prides itself on military prowess. Further shocking Israelis was how long it took the military to respond. As thousands in southern Israel suddenly found themselves besieged, their cries for help went unanswered for hours. Holed up inside homes and safe rooms as terrorists sprayed bullets, torched homes, and hurled grenades, they turned in desperation to social media, to journalists, and to friends, beseeching the army to save them. The weekend attacks and the military’s response brought an unsettling new sense of vulnerability and abandonment. Thousands of families had no idea whether loved ones were alive or had been taken as captives to Gaza. At the height of the violence, there was no one to turn to for guidance or information. Contact centers were eventually set up, but the focus was on soliciting information from families rather than offering it. Six members of Jonathan Silver’s family are missing, and he approached authorities for help. At least three relatives are captive in Gaza, he said, and the others are assumed to be there, too. He saw a video of a cousin and two children taken hostage from their kibbutz, Nir Oz. But the family has received no information, Silver said. “We tried to reach everybody – the homeland command, police, friends, acquaintances, people on the kibbutz,” he said. And for hours, “there was no one to talk to.” He’s particularly concerned for his aunt, who has Parkinson’s disease and needs her medication. He’s frustrated, but he also said now is not the time to criticize too deeply. “I have a lot of questions and a lot to say. The day of reckoning will come,” he said, but “now I prefer to stand beside the army.” In Israel, military service is compulsory for most Jewish men and women. In the eyes of many citizens, it is the glue that keeps the country together in a region widely hostile to its presence, and it’s recognized worldwide for its technological advances and intelligence-gathering capabilities. That it could be taken so completely by surprise by a terrorist group is something Israelis are hard-pressed to fathom. For Merav Leshem Gonen, a feeling of helplessness gripped her when her daughter called in a panic from a music festival that was attacked. “Mommy, we were bombed. They shot at us. The car was shot, we cannot drive, everybody here is hurt,” Gonen recounted her daughter saying. “She was talking to me and said, ‘Mommy, help us, we don’t know what to do.’ And I’m saying, ‘We love you, and it’s OK. We are trying to find a way to take you out of there. We are sending people,'” Gonen told a news conference outside Tel Aviv. “And I know I’m lying because we don’t have answers, and we didn’t have any answers. Nobody had.” Journalist Amir Tibon had good fortune that many others didn’t: While the army struggled to regroup, his 62-year-old father, a retired general, entered the breach. Noam Tibon headed from his home in Tel Aviv to Nahal Oz, a kibbutz where his son, his wife, and their two young daughters were hunkering in a safe room. On the way, he connected with another retired general and a group of commandos. After firefights with terrorists along the way, the elder Tibon extricated his son and family. More than a dozen others at Nahal Oz did not survive. “The terms of the contract between us and the state had always been clear: We protect the border, and the state protects us,” Amir Tibon wrote in an article retelling the rescue for his newspaper, Haaretz. “We fulfilled our share of the deal heroically. For all too many of our beloved friends and neighbors, on this black day of Saturday, October 7, the state of Israel did not fulfill its share.” Maayan Zin said she learned that her two daughters had been abducted when a relative sent her photos from a Telegram group appearing to show them sitting on mattresses in captivity. She’s among dozens of distraught families who say there’s been a lack of support from Israeli authorities about their loved ones held in Gaza. “There is no information. No one has contacted me since yesterday. Not the army, not the government, not the police,” she said. At first, she couldn’t believe what she saw in the images. “I thought it was Photoshopped,” she said. But videos she found online confirmed her worst fears. Dafna, 15, and Ella, 8, were shown weeping and terrified. Their father, her ex-husband, was seen being taken across the border into Gaza, his leg bleeding heavily. “Just bring my daughters home,” Zin pleaded. “Bring everybody home.”
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:yeah dude i know the situation is bad but they will be stopped, Palestine will win
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Atrocious Joe posted:hope he stays there ????
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fizzy posted:Bad news for the popular support rating of the current Israeli government - The ironclad social contract that Israeli citizens would serve in the military and live along enemy borders, and in exchange the army would defend them, was shattered Saturday when hundreds of Hamas Clearly Hamas doesn't know what they're doing and has doomed their own cause tho (which until this very moment was doing so good and everyone was happy with it)
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webcams for christ posted:Europe ends at the Pyrenees 
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Bad news for Israeli reserve soldiers - Reserve soldiers from all over the country complained on social media Sunday that they were not properly equipped by the military for anticipated large-scale operations. https://www.timesofisrael.com/reserve-soldiers-complain-that-equipment-is-lacking-or-substandard/ Reserve soldiers complain that equipment is lacking or substandard By SUE SURKES and JESSICA STEINBERG Today, 9:02 am Reserve soldiers from all over the country complained on social media Sunday that they were not properly equipped by the military for anticipated large-scale operations, with many seeking to privately purchase the required gear. Israel on Saturday began drafting tens of thousands of reservists after the Hamas But as reservists began reporting to their units near Gaza, in the West Bank, and at the northern border, complaints started coming in about a lack of equipment, with many fighters focusing on the need for ceramic plates for their protective vests. The plates help to prevent projectiles such as bullets from penetrating the vest. On Monday morning, IDF spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari denied there were shortages and said the issue was simply a logistical one. “There is no shortage of equipment in the IDF. It takes time to move some of the equipment, but there is no shortage,” Hagari said. Nevertheless, many sought to privately secure the equipment they need. On Sunday, army suppliers Marom Dolphin in Alon Tavor, northern Israel, was buzzing, as teenage volunteers filled boxes with army gear for delivery, and soldiers, or their friends and relatives, jostled to buy vests with soft or hard body armor plates. By the evening, the highest level of hard (ceramic) body plate had run out, with the office promising to bring more from the factory on Monday, they reported. Online, a reservist from the elite Engineering Corps unit Yahalom wrote, “We were given vests, but while most of them are new, they’ve been in storage for decades and there is no room in them for ceramics or equipment that a fighter should be supplied with to go into combat.” Alon Peretz, 25, from Netanya on the central coast, wrote on WhatsApp, “Friends, I need urgent help. I must buy 100 ceramic vests and another 120 helmets.” Peretz, who was set to join his Border Police unit on Monday, works as a fundraiser for startup companies. He returned from vacation overseas on Saturday and, on hearing that soldiers needed equipment, helped set up a group called Civilian Fundraising. “We have teams of fighters without proper helmets, without vests,” he told The Times of Israel, citing the names of elite and regular infantry units that had submitted equipment requests. Some of the fighters were in the Gaza area, others on the border with Lebanon. The 12 men running Civilian Fundraising — six in Netanya and another six in nearby Herzliya — also include Maor Udi, a reserve airforce technician, who distributes supermarket food to homes for a living and has a background in logistics. “You can’t believe how quickly word is spreading,” he said. “We opened the first group at 9 p.m. last night and by 1 a.m. there were 600 people.” Since then, another four groups have been launched. “Some people want to help, others are on bases without equipment. I don’t know where the government is, where the army is. We’re trying to give the best help we can.” Amit, from a different WhatsApp group (he asked to withhold his surname), was raising money to buy vests and other equipment for reservists in a tank company that he commanded from the last Gaza War in 2014 until the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic, as a conscripted soldier and then as a career soldier. He is now recognized as disabled and is not called up for reserve duty. “We have around 50 fighters training and getting their tanks ready in the south, and they all need vests in case they need to leave their tanks,” he said. “Our first priority is to get ceramic vests for the tank commanders, those who put their heads outside the hatch and are therefore the most exposed.” The tank teams also needed flame-resistant Nomex gloves but these cannot be purchased in Israel, he said. Amit said he was trying to get hold of gloves from soldiers who had been released from military duty and no longer needed them. He was also turning for help to relatives and friends in the US and asking Israelis abroad who had been mobilized and were flying back to Israel to go to an army store and buy a couple of vests to put in their suitcases. “I don’t know if the problem is that they (the IDF) haven’t opened the storerooms yet” but he was getting constant messages for help, he said. Sam Cogan, 27, who is exempt from reserve duty because of an injury sustained during training for an explosives unit, heard from his army buddies on the Lebanon border that there was little food, no basic equipment, no flashlights to see at night, kneepads, goggles or hydration packs. It was also freezing cold. On Sunday, Cogan and his sister shopped for nonperishable food items such as dried sausages and instant noodles, along with flashlights, kneepads, and portable camping stoves to make hot water and coffee. Having spent NIS 20,000 (around $5,000), Cogan opened a GoFundMe page at 4 p.m. to raise $5,000. By 8 p.m., the account had $8,000. Cogan’s mother, Lainie Blum Cogan, remembered buying kneepads for the entire squad when her son was in active service. “Infantry soldiers are treated very poorly in terms of food and equipment,” she said. The issue of a lack of supplies for soldiers has been ongoing, despite optimistic pronouncements from politicians. In January 2019, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared during a surprise visit to a weapons depot at the Sirkin base in central Israel that the military was “ready for the day the order is given,” and prepared to deliver a “crushing attack.” The visit came in the wake of a report and subsequent statements from Maj. Gen. (res.) Yitzhak Brick, then the chief complaints officer at the Defense Ministry, about the poor standards of the army’s emergency storage units, among other things. Saying that his claims were based on conversations with commanders in the field rather than military top brass, Brick charged that the current situation in the IDF was “worse than it was at the time of the Yom Kippur War” in 1973, when Israel was famously caught off guard in a surprise attack by Egypt and Syria.
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fizzy posted:Bad news for the popular support rating of the current Israeli government - The ironclad social contract that[b] Israeli citizens would serve in the military and live along enemy borders, You know, they could have stayed far, far away from them... 
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Bad news for Israeli Lieutenant Colonel Alim Abdallah - Israeli Lieutenant Colonel Alim Abdallah was killed in clashes near Israel’s border with Lebanon. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-live-news-israel-orders-complete-siege-of-gaza-strip Israel names deputy commander killed in border clashes 1m ago (01:04 GMT) We have more on the Israeli deputy commander who was killed in clashes near Israel’s border with Lebanon. The Israeli military has identified the soldier as Lieutenant Colonel Alim Abdallah. “The Deputy Commander of the 300th Brigade, LTC Alim Abdallah – from the Druze village of Yanuh-Jat – was killed”, the Israeli military said in a post on X. https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1711530379222339816
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