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ApplesandOranges posted:I feel like the Apollo villains just aren't very good. The Phoenix side has probably lower lows but I think the average villain quality is better than the Apollo side of things. In fairness the apollo side of things is basically kristoph twice and two dogshit villains
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TheKingofSprings posted:In fairness the apollo side of things is basically kristoph twice and two dogshit villains At least case 3’s villain was a giant dickhead 
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Oct 9, 2023 15:23
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I thought the villains of the third case for both GAA games were absolutely stellar. How the gently caress can you argue with the Assman
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Oct 9, 2023 15:31
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GAA2-3 introduced the Assman, the clockwork boy, the sassy waxy witch and the solitary coroner all at once, dunno how you could argue it is anything but peak in terms of characters. e: also, Toby
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Oct 9, 2023 15:40
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Waffleman_ posted:No it's not! Hey you know this new character? Well, you never actually knew them at all, they were actually this person the whole time who is even LESS of a character than the person you thought they were! Yea completely forgot how poo poo and disappointing that climax was
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Oct 9, 2023 16:51
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the_american_dream posted:Yea completely forgot how poo poo and disappointing that climax was Even knowing ahead of time is still sucks Cause I was actually ended up liking Bobby before the reveal.
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Oct 9, 2023 17:18
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It's also the dumbest twist because he doesn't actually do anything other than be the idiot detective in the time before the final case. There's no foreshadowing or setting up pins for the final gambit, just "oh yeah Bobby was a lie." The only reason you don't see it coming is because it makes zero sense; twists are supposed to recontextualize things! 
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Oct 9, 2023 17:25
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As someone who loves all the Axe Attorney games, even the bad ones,Dongicus posted:dual destinies is the worst by far. writing, music, art style. it stinks!
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Oct 9, 2023 19:48
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i am excited to play the other two apollo justice games for the first time and i am sure i will not be disappointed in them <3
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Oct 9, 2023 19:49
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Runa posted:As someone who loves all the Axe Attorney games, even the bad ones, But how does it compare to the professor hammer games?
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Oct 9, 2023 20:19
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Axe Attorney would be a very different game 
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Oct 9, 2023 20:58
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Oct 9, 2023 21:37
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DD is on the bottom for me, if only because its central theme of The Dark Age of The Law feels like it was handled already by apollo justice, which atleast can back it up more with its interest in noir stylings. so i was bored throughout most of it. dont care much for SoJ either. it's a shame the mainline yamazaki games are just kind of bummers because AAI2 is a homerun
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Oct 11, 2023 12:49
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FutureFriend posted:DD is on the bottom for me, if only because its central theme of The Dark Age of The Law feels like it was handled already by apollo justice, which atleast can back it up more with its interest in noir stylings. so i was bored throughout most of it. dont care much for SoJ either. Shame that whole jury system never took off and we have to continue to rely on a senile old man.  Summing up the big ending of 4-4. I really should finish DD, though, if only to just be done with it.
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Oct 11, 2023 13:01
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FutureFriend posted:DD is on the bottom for me, if only because its central theme of The Dark Age of The Law feels like it was handled already by apollo justice, which atleast can back it up more with its interest in noir stylings. so i was bored throughout most of it. dont care much for SoJ either. AJ actually did something with it and did so without having to shout "THE DARK AGE OF LAW" every chapter. Like every victory in AJ is brought about by some fuckery by Phoenix or Trucy and as much as 4-3 sucks it does raise a good question "what if there is no decisive evidence?" It could have done more with it considering Apollo's mentor and I think it would have helped Klavier standout more as the Legitimate Honest Prosecutor.
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Oct 11, 2023 14:49
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Anyone bought up Investigations 1 as a candidate for worst? Honestly that was pretty dull most of the time with the only memorable part being the excessively stubborn final villain. Granted my actual worst one is PLvPW for having the most jaw droppingly stupid twist though it's not he worst twist by Layton standards
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Oct 11, 2023 15:47
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The Ace Attorney series if Japan had kept using jury trials instead of giving up on them
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Oct 11, 2023 15:56
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Morphogenic96 posted:Anyone bought up Investigations 1 as a candidate for worst? Honestly that was pretty dull most of the time with the only memorable part being the excessively stubborn final villain. It's case 3 also has a funny opener, but yeah it is kinda dull. For the next Ace Attorney do we want Ace Attorney 7, Investigations 3, or Great Ace Attorney 3?
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Oct 11, 2023 17:22
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It's definitely time for AA7. Come on Capcom let's go already.
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Oct 11, 2023 17:47
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Ace Attorney Investigations 3: Klavier Gavin
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Oct 11, 2023 18:20
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Yeah, no, Takumi is far overdue to come back to the main series
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Oct 11, 2023 18:24
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Literally anything is overdue for the main series
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Oct 11, 2023 18:36
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I'm not sure what they could do with the main series; they're already dealing with some pretty bad cast bloat, but there aren't really any open threads left for the existing characters. But I trust whatever they come up with 
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Oct 11, 2023 19:00
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uhh we dont know anything about athenas dad
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Oct 11, 2023 19:08
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Do another soft reboot but actually commit to it
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Oct 11, 2023 19:10
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There’s still the matter of figuring out who the phantom’s employer was, but other than that…  Time for another timeskip?
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Oct 11, 2023 19:12
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i want investigations but for them to go back to the original idea they had for investigations where you are ema skye...
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Regalingualius posted:There’s still the matter of figuring out who the phantom’s employer was, but other than that… No, let's not touch that ever again, it's stupid
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Oct 11, 2023 19:14
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The coolest twist in Spirit of Justice was the reveal that Phoenix is not the main character, and the finale was a two-parter of Apollo kickin his rear end in Japanifornia, and then Phoenix graciously stepping aside and just watching as Apollo dismantled an authoritarian regime in Khu'rain. Just do a soft reboot, have the old cast be background characters at most, and let the new main cast actually drive the plot. I'd much rather have an entirely new attorney who actually gets to be a main character than them trying to slot in a case for Athena and Apollo and two or more for old Nick.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:22
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They’ve done Present Day Phoenix Wright, they’ve done Past Phoenix Wright, the next game will have to star Future Phoenix Wright in space. Not really any alternatives.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:24
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But every game has taken place in the future....
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Oct 11, 2023 19:26
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Do more ace attorney crossover games. Ace attorney investigates Pokémon crime. Ace attorney investigates the kidnapping of Princess Peach.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:28
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Maybe we can solve courtroom mysteries that aren't murders 
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Oct 11, 2023 19:29
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Electric Phantasm posted:Maybe we can solve courtroom mysteries that aren't murders Only if they at least double the hamminess and arguing over totally inane poo poo to compensate for the lower stakes
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Oct 11, 2023 19:35
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Electric Phantasm posted:Maybe we can solve courtroom mysteries that aren't murders Ace Attorney: Civil Practice Larry is the defendant in all the cases.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:40
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Fangz posted:Do more ace attorney crossover games. This one just came out and was bad
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:The coolest twist in Spirit of Justice was the reveal that Phoenix is not the main character, and the finale was a two-parter of Apollo kickin his rear end in Japanifornia, and then Phoenix graciously stepping aside and just watching as Apollo dismantled an authoritarian regime in Khu'rain. This owned a lot and outweighed most of SoJ's flaws imo
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Oct 11, 2023 20:02
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Everything Apollo in SoJ felt perfect IMO
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Electric Phantasm posted:Maybe we can solve courtroom mysteries that aren't murders Ace Attorney: Property Line Disputes.
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Wasn't that just the last case of AAI?
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