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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


OwlFancier posted:

I feel like trying to run backwards up the stairs with a steadicam rig would be quite difficult even today.

About 15 years ago I got a Steadicam Merlin and it was a fucken huge piece of poo poo. I used up building my own gyro stabilizsation system using big old heavy Hard Drives spun at full speed mounted in different axis'.
Similar to a Kenyon Gyro:

https://motion-impossible.com/product/6x6-kenyon-gyro/

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Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy
I wanted a Steadicam until I met the Steadicam Operators club at my university. They would spend hours on end, every week, running around campus with their rigs for practice. Their video was buttery smooth and they could do obscene things with those huge rigs, but that's more commitment to a single bit than I've ever had.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

I wanted a Steadicam until I met the Steadicam Operators club at my university. They would spend hours on end, every week, running around campus with their rigs for practice. Their video was buttery smooth and they could do obscene things with those huge rigs, but that's more commitment to a single bit than I've ever had.

I just want a gimbal for my skating and biking footage, or does everyone use action cams with some sort of accelerometer fed digital smoothing for that now?

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

Grassy Knowles posted:

I just want a gimbal for my skating and biking footage, or does everyone use action cams with some sort of accelerometer fed digital smoothing for that now?

When I did real estate videos I used a DJI Osmo hand gimbal with a spare cell phone (it needs the phone's accelerometer) to great effect. I'd often start my videos on an electric skateboard (for that smooth front door zoom shot) and the gimbal could handle me stopping it and stepping off without hitching. It made some noise, but that wasn't important to me as I never used the audio.

They don't make it anymore but they make a 2 handed version which.... seems less useful. No way to drive an electric skateboard that way at least. But hand gimbals are good if you're comfortable holding them. We also had a knockoff that worked similarly but I don't know the brand.

E: I should mention that the Osmo app both controls the device and records for you and can do things like track an object or person as well. Not useful for me (I'd set the angle relative to the handle and lock side-to-side movement out) but potentially cool and also good for skating and biking.

Shit Fuckasaurus has a new favorite as of 15:08 on Oct 7, 2023

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Grassy Knowles posted:

I just want a gimbal for my skating and biking footage, or does everyone use action cams with some sort of accelerometer fed digital smoothing for that now?

GoPros are magic. I couldn't believe how smooth the footage from my mountain bike was.

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbuol0AJ24A

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

I wanted a Steadicam until I met the Steadicam Operators club at my university. They would spend hours on end, every week, running around campus with their rigs for practice. Their video was buttery smooth and they could do obscene things with those huge rigs, but that's more commitment to a single bit than I've ever had.

That Eurovision dude getting rolled in on a hoverboard, jumping off to a ramp running, sweeping around the artist, must be their ultimate hero

e:
VVVV That's the one, yeah :v:

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spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

F4rt5 posted:

That Eurovision dude getting rolled in on a hoverboard, jumping off to a ramp running, sweeping around the artist, must be their ultimate hero

This one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f3mUs7rS1I

spookygonk has a new favorite as of 12:03 on Oct 9, 2023

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

F4rt5 posted:

That Eurovision dude getting rolled in on a hoverboard, jumping off to a ramp running, sweeping around the artist, must be their ultimate hero

They practiced moving onto/off of moving platforms, climbing stairs, and circling with a religious fervor, so yeah that guy should be Steadicam Jesus for comboing all three.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster


Holy poo poo :monocle:

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
I’m more impressed by the focus puller, Christ.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.
Saw this beaut at a local thrift shop:


Part of me wanted to get it just because of those glorious chunky buttons, real dials, and wood veneer. But I didn't...because $50 for an old Betamax player is absurd.

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy
It's sad when people think Beta players have value, because they look up the prices of maintained and hand-restored units and fail to grok that the price is the labor. An unmaintained and unrestored player is basically novelty value alone. That specific unit says X-2 on the front because it's one of the first long play Beta players (2 hours on one cassette!) and as such has the oldest and least robust heads that do that. It's a pretty piece of art and obviously historical but even restored it's not a particularly good or notable player. It doesn't even have the optional clock!

loving gorgeous though, thanks for posting it.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

My parents had a top loading Sony Betamax during the 80s. I don't know if it was due to Australia having a small market, but Beta was still widely supported at video rental stores up to the mid 90s

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Flipperwaldt posted:

I hope one day it'll be ok to just say they were probably a lot like us without the nuisance of people insisting we need definitive proof of that. Nothing will ever add up to that, but we can acknowledge that we have a fair number of indications by now, maybe. They were people.

I think my favorite way to get this across to people was several years ago, I was on a project at a public site (i.e. with tourists just a few feet away across the ropes) and we excavated a pretty basic but neat scraping tool. What really struck me was how utterly impeccable the ergonomics of this thing were: between the natural contours of the stone and the work its creator had done to flake and grind down the tool, it fit perfectly into the hand, better than many modern tools. When I handed it to visitors for them to hold you could see them realizing how much work had gone into that thing.

Also I have a friend who did a lot of urban archaeology, so mostly privies, and one of the most common things he found down there were kids toys. People don't really change much!

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Yeah I get that. I found a flint scraping or cutting tool when I was eight or something and it still has some residue on it from the thing that was being cut presumably thousands of years ago and it's a crazy thought that some lab analysis could probably tell me exactly what it was.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Flipperwaldt posted:

Yeah I get that. I found a flint scraping or cutting tool when I was eight or something and it still has some residue on it from the thing that was being cut presumably thousands of years ago and it's a crazy thought that some lab analysis could probably tell me exactly what it was.

Prehistoric poop knife

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Quorum posted:

I think my favorite way to get this across to people was several years ago, I was on a project at a public site (i.e. with tourists just a few feet away across the ropes) and we excavated a pretty basic but neat scraping tool. What really struck me was how utterly impeccable the ergonomics of this thing were: between the natural contours of the stone and the work its creator had done to flake and grind down the tool, it fit perfectly into the hand, better than many modern tools. When I handed it to visitors for them to hold you could see them realizing how much work had gone into that thing.

My dick is very similar.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Armacham posted:

Prehistoric poop knife
Possibly!

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Desert Bus posted:

My dick is very similar.

Perfectly shaped for your hand and no other?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
An Ergonomic Boner is a possible username. Dunno that it's great

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
It's certainly ergonomic

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Armacham posted:

Prehistoric poop knife

Toe knife. Previous owner bled out from a botched toe.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Quorum posted:

I think my favorite way to get this across to people was several years ago, I was on a project at a public site (i.e. with tourists just a few feet away across the ropes) and we excavated a pretty basic but neat scraping tool. What really struck me was how utterly impeccable the ergonomics of this thing were: between the natural contours of the stone and the work its creator had done to flake and grind down the tool, it fit perfectly into the hand, better than many modern tools. When I handed it to visitors for them to hold you could see them realizing how much work had gone into that thing.

ISTR an anecdote about some bone tool remaining unidentified until it was shown to someone's buddy who was a leatherworker. And he was like, oh yeah, that's a burnisher, I have one just like it, the bone ones are the best. So this technology was perfected like 40k years ago and nobody has managed to improve on it since.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

My parents had a top loading Sony Betamax during the 80s. I don't know if it was due to Australia having a small market, but Beta was still widely supported at video rental stores up to the mid 90s

Yeah I remember my first exposure of Beta vs VHS and it revolves around me crying cos I couldn't watch Tron.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


That's a good enough explanation as to why Beta failed,
let the kids watch TRON Sony!:argh:

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

By popular demand posted:

That's a good enough explanation as to why Beta failed,
let the kids watch TRON Sony!:argh:

Better fake reason than the popular urban legend.

Beta didn't lose because porn went with VHS.

There was porn on Beta and VHS; Beta lost for a myriad of factors but in general the cost was too high for both the consumer (the Beta players and tapes) and producers (tapes, again, and the licensing fees to Sony.)

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy
Also Beta wasn't higher quality in practice like the myth says. Technology Connections has an exhaustive video on the topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGVVAQVdEOs

In short, normal-speed beta is better than normal speed VHS hands down, but has a much shorter runtime. The first two sizes of tape could hold 60 or 90 minutes at this speed, which is obviously shorter than a lot of commercial films and much shorter than Standard Play VHS. To make up for this, Beta II speed was introduced, which is a half-speed mode that sacrifices quality for runtime. All but the highest end Beta tape stock was indistinguishable from SP VHS at this speed. Beta III was even slower, even lower quality, and had an even longer runtime but it was too little too late. By the time Beta III was introduced, most machines didn't even support Beta I for record or playback. Have a chart.



L-250 was the original tape and L-500 was the second. The numbers refer to linear feet of tape so they would have higher numbers on the package than the VHS tapes that listed their runtime in minutes.

Betacam (the beta used by Hollywood that dumb nerds like to talk about) is a different format in a different form factor and is completely incompatible with consumer Beta devices.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Beta was better than VHS because that's what I grew up with :colbert:

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I don't think I've ever seen Beta in person and I'm approaching 40. I've seen far more Laserdisc and even loving CED.

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

CEDs are weirdly common, I feel like I spot them more often than laserdiscs.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Explosionface posted:

I don't think I've ever seen Beta in person and I'm approaching 40. I've seen far more Laserdisc and even loving CED.

If you're not quite 40 yet then you're probably too young. I've only seen one or two and that was pre-1990. 43 going on 44 in a couple months

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Laserdiscs are great and there should be a thread about them. Idk what we would talk about there though. We just picked up Mars Attacks! on LD

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Wayne Knight posted:

Laserdiscs are great and there should be a thread about them. Idk what we would talk about there though. We just picked up Mars Attacks! on LD

I betcha Humphreys could carry the thread alone

holefoods
Jan 10, 2022

I’d love a laserdisc thread as well. I’ve never been too fond of posting on LDDb because there’s some real weirdos there.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

holefoods posted:

CEDs are weirdly common, I feel like I spot them more often than laserdiscs.

I wanna say that's probably (ironically) because it was such a failed format.

Laserdiscs were always premium and we're bought by middle class people who probably just trashed it or sold it in a yard sale when they got tired of it. But CEDs bombed so hard that they got all bought up by like, Columbia Clearing House/etc, to sell in bundles to budget conscious consumers. Who are also the type to hang onto things long after they're obsolete simply because they paid good money for them at some point in the past.

So then those boomers up and died and their hoarding explodes into every goodwill or thrift store in a twenty mile radius.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

ishikabibble posted:

I wanna say that's probably (ironically) because it was such a failed format.

Laserdiscs were always premium and we're bought by middle class people who probably just trashed it or sold it in a yard sale when they got tired of it. But CEDs bombed so hard that they got all bought up by like, Columbia Clearing House/etc, to sell in bundles to budget conscious consumers. Who are also the type to hang onto things long after they're obsolete simply because they paid good money for them at some point in the past.

So then those boomers up and died and their hoarding explodes into every goodwill or thrift store in a twenty mile radius.

I bought an LD player in 1992 and was in the Columbia House LD Club for about a year. I still have the player. but the last time I tried to use it, it would kick the disc back out or display a no disc error. Possibly a belt issue?

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


I feel required to mention that when I stumbled upon CEDs in a thrift shop I used to frequent (near all the vinyls, of course), that I bought Star Trek II for the novelty of it. No player, nor real desire to seek one out.

Doctor Bishop
Oct 22, 2013

To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits.

Explosionface posted:

I feel required to mention that when I stumbled upon CEDs in a thrift shop I used to frequent (near all the vinyls, of course), that I bought Star Trek II for the novelty of it. No player, nor real desire to seek one out.

Tbf even if you did find a player, the disc would probably play like poo poo with a bunch of skips and blips because CED just wasn't a very good format to begin with.

Almost seems a shame its failure completely stalled any serious attempts to bring VHD, JVC's improved version of the same tech, outside of Japan, but then you remember that the timeline where we have legal precedent to be able to record pretty much anything with VCRs is the better one.

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Mantle
May 15, 2004

Explosionface posted:

I feel required to mention that when I stumbled upon CEDs in a thrift shop I used to frequent (near all the vinyls, of course), that I bought Star Trek II for the novelty of it. No player, nor real desire to seek one out.

At least it's a movie you will want to watch when you finally get a player to test it.

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