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codo27 posted:My wife watched for I dont know how long the other evening as some rooster teeth chuds watched a live street feed from outside some florida bar and played bingo from it. And advertised merch for it. I hate them all. how many levels of watching are we on here
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Flint_Paper posted:I want to start making youtube videos of follies with my Thumbnails only matter for on-platform discovery, off-platform they're much less important. Also to be honest, in your first year thumbs basically do not matter at all unless you're coming in with a plan and a marketing budget. Obviously make and publish videos, but know that YouTube throttles new accounts in two ways. First, new accounts are punished for not having enough videos total. This is a thing, and it's unclear whether it's a curve or a stair pattern with breakpoints, but you need to have ~10 videos before they start to push you and ~20 before those brakes seem to really come off (the brakes will continue to slowly release for a long time but past twentyish it's not worth caring too much) Second, YouTube rewards a regular publication schedule heavily. You can see this by looking at a creator with a variable publish schedule, generally their videos that are published as part of a weekly, biweekly, or monthly schedule perform much better than videos with long gaps before and after, because YouTube is obsessed with the new and the regularly published. As a new account, you don't have a history and therefore can't have a cadence, and it works like a fighting game combo where each consecutive video that adheres to the schedule is pushed harder than the last until you break. There's a definite rising tide effect for people who publish regularly sometimes, but the best buck/bang ratio is in prolonging the combo. Because of this, the number of YouTube-driven exposures for your videos in the first year will amount to basically static unless you are wildly successful (this is rare, even for the plan & budget folks). Because thumbnails drive on-platform discovery, that means your thumbs won't matter. Also as your skill improves you will go back and re-do those thumbnails (it's worth it to get your back catalog views and therefore average views up, which matters) so any time you spend fretting over it before your channel has an identity is just wasted time. People have been making a shitload of hay about video length recently because longer videos get more ad breaks. This is a trap. You are not monetized and won't be for awhile, so make the length of videos you want to. YouTube does not care about video length much if at all from anything I've seen, and may actually have recently started rewarding channels for having videos of a variety of lengths. YouTube seems to try to reward organic production and organic growth more as of late with varying degrees of success, so seriously, the best thing you can possibly do is film and edit some videos to the best of your ability then put them out. Don't care about frequency, don't care about length, just make something that someone would want to watch. If your back catalog views start growing or you start getting subs from seemingly nowhere, then the algo has you in it's sights and you can consider thinking about optimization. If you want to beeline for monetization (Partner status) or once you start to gain traction I recommend planning a number of low-effort videos you can do anytime, then settle on a posting schedule. Ideally you would always have two weeks worth of these types of videos already shot and at least skeletally edited (so 2 if you're weekly, 4 if you're twice a week) so you can cover for being sick or a longer-than-anticipated production schedule with under an hour of finishing edits and an upload. This can accelerate the race to partner status significantly, but you need to make sure the frequency you choose is something you can sustain for awhile, at least a couple months, so shoot low. Adjusting to a more frequent schedule has little effect, but adjusting down is often painful. E: I'm happy to answer questions but this is likely a bad venue for it and I'm not nearly competent enough (as a YouTube editor, SA poster, or human person) to host an A/T thread. If anyone has a better idea for where to do this so I stop derailing the diaspora thread lmk. Shit Fuckasaurus has a new favorite as of 14:07 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:[watching a 2 hour video where the creators have fun discussing their creative process in writing fake creepy stories] hmm I think we should wish for an asteroid to kill humanity i should watch that followup, yeah
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PYF algorithm urban legends
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the youtube algorithm is hondo's greatest work
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Helpful youtube thoughts. Thank you, poo poo Fuckasaurus, this is genuinely helpful and appreciated
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Zetsubou-san posted:PYF algorithm urban legends he invented the internet
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:they seem to reach bizarre conclusions that don't pan out like including an Among Us guy or a toilet or plants in the thumbnail
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syntaxfunction posted:What I'm saying is people are the problem, and we really need to restart humanity to correct the values being fed into things. Does anyone know the reset button? Like soft reset tho, not hard reset. Let's not go insane. It's in a briefcase one of the guys following the President around all day has.
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:so 2 if you're weekly, 4 if you're twice a week What if you're on pace to publish three whole videos per year? When do I get my RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS money?? My vote is but we do have a very slow YouTube thread that I completely forgot about and should go back to because I got feedback and completely blanked on replying to it
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All of this stuff about how to game the algorithm reads like that Kafka short story about the dog pissing to control when the food comes
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Trabant posted:What if you're on pace to publish three whole videos per year? When do I get my RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS money?? That's the hbomberguy model, and the answer is YouTube gets salty and you start a Patreon. I'll bump the YouTube thread I suppose. E: thread bumped. Shit Fuckasaurus has a new favorite as of 16:36 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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Another thing Mr. Beast has that other creators don't is beta access to the youtube thumbnail A/B testing system: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771045/youtube-test-and-compare-a-b-testing-thumbnails-feature Which can't come soon enough as I struggle with this a lot for my videos. Sardonik has a new favorite as of 15:55 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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Sardonik posted:Another thing Mr. Beast has that other creators don't is beta access to the youtube thumbnail A/B testing system: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771045/youtube-test-and-compare-a-b-testing-thumbnails-feature well seems like giving him this access is already going to improve youtube thumbnails globally https://twitter.com/MrBeast/status/1699459457002918138 https://twitter.com/MrBeast/status/1699504653971472394
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That YouTube stuff is depressing in a way I can't even articulate. Leaping through vague hoops in a hope that you will impress an algorithm enough to show you to more people. And you can't stop, otherwise itll take it all away. So keep dancing Monkey. Quick, pull a silly face, it likes that.
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Vsauce was on some podcast a few months back with some other youtubers. And I find his stuff really interesting, so I watched some of the podcast but all they talked about was how YouTube wants creators to publish a bunch of shorts and they recommend you a lot more if you do, so you have to make a bunch of shorts and then you make a separate channel for long videos because having them both on the same channel throws off the average views of each video and YouTube will algorithm you differently based on average view time blah blah blah blah blah and I wish that he could have just talked about the real world instead of the game of getting YouTube views.
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Roblo posted:That YouTube stuff is depressing in a way I can't even articulate. Leaping through vague hoops in a hope that you will impress an algorithm enough to show you to more people. We're just performing arcane rituals to placate a mad god.
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https://twitter.com/HorrorHammer1/status/1711985983405863128?s=20
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Roblo posted:That YouTube stuff is depressing in a way I can't even articulate. Leaping through vague hoops in a hope that you will impress an algorithm enough to show you to more people. Comic books did something similar. Secret Wars was named that because 'war' in titles sold well. Putting a gorilla on the cover was also considered a guaranteed way to boost sales. (Much like pulp magazines, silver age comics frequently started with a cover and then did the story around it)
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Tunicate posted:Comic books did something similar. Secret Wars was named that because 'war' in titles sold well. Putting a gorilla on the cover was also considered a guaranteed way to boost sales. (Much like pulp magazines, silver age comics frequently started with a cover and then did the story around it) Comic book covers also did the very thing we're talking about with YouTube. Faces, especially in the foreground, of shock or terror reacting to something going on. Started from day 1 with superheroes.
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I mean, cave paintings are mostly of animals and people so I think as a species we just know what we like
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I'm so thankful we didn't have comic books in my socialist country when gen x grew up. Look at what those idiots have done to yours
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:I'm so thankful we didn't have comic books in my socialist country when gen x grew up. Look at what those idiots have done to yours The most goon take
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CharlestheHammer posted:The most goon take It's 100% true.
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steinrokkan posted:It's 100% true. I know that’s why I said it. Would also do good numbers on Twitter to that brain damaged crowd
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Our man have almost understood trolling
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there's a whole bunch of bluesky codes available if you wanna get your skeet on https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4041729&perpage=40&pagenumber=3&noseen=1
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uh what x.com or twitter.com/x yield the same
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it's over we're free
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lol nitter still works
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYS0ZZdsnA
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:Thumbnails only matter for on-platform discovery, off-platform they're much less important. Nodding my head thoughtfully as I read virality optimisation tips from poster poo poo Fuckasaurus
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The future of wealth is appeasing a mysterious mercurial robot so you can show garbage to unsupervised toddlers.
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arent almost all supa internet stars rich nepobaby failkids that use their
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PhazonLink posted:arent almost all supa internet stars rich nepobaby failkids that use their It's weird how people feel compelled to do this MrBeast / James Donaldson was a completely ordinary high school kid. Single mum who served in the military. So yes, he did live at home in those first few years, as he was a literal child. He took a look at the lay of the world, saw an opening that not many others did at that time, and figured out a way to break through, and put the hard work in to do it, entirely off his own bat. He didn't really have the talent, but he taught himself how to figure it out. As a teenager. He has lived happily ever since. To try and bring it vaguely back to topic of the best parts of the Great Content Diaspora, gently caress it, PYF youtube creators: (I've realised that this list is definitely skewed to what I share with the kids as opposed to watch myself, but it's all good stuff): Primitive Technology YBS Youngbloods Sailing La Vagabonde (moreso the old monohull days, but credit to 'em) VSauce Veritaseum Rick Glassman Mark Rober Channel 5 MapMen And of course the Vlog Brothers. Not so much their channel, more what they've created overall.
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Bucky Fullminster posted:To try and bring it vaguely back to topic of the best parts of the Great Content Diaspora, gently caress it, PYF youtube creators: There's a thread for that.
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Also didn't the Mr Beast derail with a mod saying "shut up about mr beast"
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More like Mr Derail
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CommonShore posted:Also didn't the Mr Beast derail with a mod saying "shut up about mr beast" This is a different derail, we're ABing it.
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