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Young Freud posted:Hopefully he remains absent from the Senate for a few days. This is from 2016 or so.
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davecrazy posted:Well that sure is a take. Their schtick relies heavily on clickbaity social media that often misleads readers, either by stripping out the relevant context or massively overselling the story ("Bombshell new filing in Trump case!")... deputizing the dumbest of the #resist crowd to share and boost the post, either without reading it or lacking the capacity to understand it, all to keep the donation and clout coming in. In this case, it's both! (video of the remarks) Trump's comments about Bibi letting him down were specifically and explicitly regarding the Soleimani assassination, but "Old man in obvious decline grumbles about events from 46 months ago, back when he was still relevant" doesn't juice the metrics. So they lie to their followers and this thread gets poo poo up.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1712225690173493268 He’s been waiting years for the chance to jam things up for Scalise.
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Skippy McPants posted:So, just speaking theoretically here because I'm sure it's extremely unlikely, but what happens if the majority party is unable to elect a speaker? Are there any procedural fallbacks if they're literally unable to get their poo poo together for weeks or longer? The Speaker isn't elected by the majority party, but rather by the House as a whole. That's exactly why the GOP are having such a problem here: they're insisting on trying to elect a speaker with zero Dem votes, but their majority is so thin that they have to get nearly all GOP reps behind a single candidate in order to do that. There's no real fallback if the House is unable to elect a Speaker. If they can't elect one, they have to keep trying until they do manage to elect one. That can get pretty bad - in 1855, it took a whopping 133 ballots over a period of more than two months before they finally settled on a Speaker. The only real escape hatch is that the House sets its own rules for the Speaker election, so if it looks like a different set of rules might be able to produce an actual winner, a majority vote of the whole House can change those rules. In the biggest historical Speaker deadlocks, the House eventually temporarily changed the rules to elect the Speaker by plurality vote instead of majority, so whoever got the most votes would become Speaker even if they didn't have a full majority.
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Paracaidas posted:The brothers running Meidas are unabashed grifters, eager to threaten lawsuits against journalists who report on inconvenient facts, like that Brett is being paid as a consultant by the consultants to the PAC they set up (mimicking the Trump PAC grift of paying 'vendors' to pay Trump family members and campaign officials), or that the PAC's bank account shot up ~$200k between the end of 2020 and January 25th, 2021... unspent money donors foolishly thought was going to be spent to help win the Georgia runoffs, on account of being told it'd be spent to help win the Georgia runoffs. Excellent post.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Does the Speaker election need a majority of the votes or just a plurality Majority, unless a majority votes that they don't need a majority.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Does the Speaker election need a majority of the votes or just a plurality A majority. If it were a plurality we would have Speaker Jefferies (or more realistically one of the House factions would fall in line and not hand the minority party one of the biggest Ws in history). But it's a house rule how it's decided. So a majority of the house could vote to change it to a plurality. But that's unlikely. First you'd need the Democrats to vote for it. You might get that because it could lead to Speaker Jefferies but that's pretty unlikely so they'd probably rather keep the onus on the Republicans to figure their poo poo out. Then you'd need a few Republicans to vote for it. The "Freedom Caucus" could do it as a "shoot the hostage" situation where they vote for the change and say "Our guy or you get stuck with Jefferies." Alternatively, the moderate Republicans could do it if they think it would cause the holdouts to give up and vote Scalise or whoever to avoid Jefferies. I'm not sure either side is sure enough the other would fold to do that.
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Discendo Vox posted:Log off twitter already I recently got into it with my brother and wife, who over the last couple of years have clearly become some kind of *pilled that I can’t quite identify. Their mix of despair, cynicism and absolute conviction is maddening, and it breaks my heart to see the people I love become so unglued.
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Why is it that every picture I see of this man looks like he's orgasming.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Does the Speaker election need a majority of the votes or just a plurality Doesn’t it only count actual votes, not potential votes? So if Dems really wanted to end the stalemate, ten or fifteen could vote present and let a Republican win without the freedom caucus votes.
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smackfu posted:Doesn’t it only count actual votes, not potential votes? So if Dems really wanted to end the stalemate, ten or fifteen could vote present and let a Republican win without the freedom caucus votes. Sure, but why do so if the Republicans are just going to do a bunch of "impeach biden" style bullshit once in power
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Why is it that every picture I see of this man looks like he's orgasming. Imagine being in love with the sound of your own voice but with Trump's level of ego and narcissism.
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It is 100% in the Democrats' interest to not help the Republicans escape the burning diarrhea pit that they have created for themselves, even from the reasonable standpoint of "we would like even a semi-functional government at this point." Speaker Jeffries is absolutely not a desirable outcome both politically and most of all practically, because trying to control these shitheads from a minority position, when they can't even do it from a majority position, simply isn't going to work.
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Sarcastro posted:I." Speaker Jeffries is absolutely not a desirable outcome both politically and most of all practically, because trying to control these shitheads from a minority position, when they can't even do it from a majority position, simply isn't going to work. A theoretical speaker Jeffries situation would essentially involve the five sanest Republicans switching and becoming the five most annoying Democrats. They'd be annoying but Manchin annoying not Gaetz annoying.
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First major "victim" of increased IRS enforcement. This is part of the "look back" program for the largest tax filers that was part of the IRA funding, but not the other major program from the IRA that involves more audits going forward. That one isn't supposed to be fully online until 2025-2026. The IRS went through the 500 largest corporate tax filers and 1,500 largest individual filers that they suspected of underpaying, but didn't have the resources to contest or audit before. Microsoft says they will contest the claim and appeal. They say that they complied with all tax laws and their deductions and reporting were legal under the tax law at the time. According to Microsoft, they can definitively prove that they paid at least $10 billion of the $29 billion the IRS is asking for and the other $19 billion were not really owed under current law at the time. The $29 billion alleged by the IRS is from a review of their returns from 2004 through 2013. https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1712218406848504120 quote:IRS says Microsoft owes an additional $29 billion in back taxes Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Oct 12, 2023 |
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House Dems have no incentive to intervene or do anything beyond voting Jeffries. Their ideal outcome is a coalition of moderate Republicans come to them with a deal for a power sharing agreement. Their second most ideal outcome is the House remains in chaos and drags the GOP's name through the mud. Slipping in a Dem Speaker makes them the focus of the news, as they subvert the will of the American people to install a radical leftist from a minority party.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Why is it that every picture I see of this man looks like he's orgasming. I mean, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0WSYbTvx0w
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https://twitter.com/MicaSoellnerDC/status/1712464703979479317 Jordan's people are also going through Scalise's financials, accusing him of further swampery with his wining and dining  It's great they're going to tear their party apart.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Why is it that every picture I see of this man looks like he's orgasming. You know how Arnold feels about the pump? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DMZ_ownSiM That's how Don feels about doing financial crimes
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Cimber posted:I'm confused, i thought the lobbiests would be paying for the meals to try to get him to vote the way they want, not the other way around. Yeah, many people on twitter noted the same. People don't know how stuff works so you can just lie to them and they'll believe it because of their priors. I'm sure Jim Jordan has similar expenditures, or would if anyone could stand to sit at a table with him for more than 15 minutes. The GOP comms strategy is largely to just describe the way things are but in a scary or mocking voice so it seems uniquely bad instead of routine and ubiquitous.
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Cimber posted:I'm confused, i thought the lobbiests would be paying for the meals to try to get him to vote the way they want, not the other way around. No no no, they aren't bribing him with meals. They're contributing to his political campaign, and the good Rep and his friends need to be able to eat, don't they? So they just use those campaign funds to pay for the meal.
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Sarcastro posted:It is 100% in the Democrats' interest to not help the Republicans escape the burning diarrhea pit that they have created for themselves, even from the reasonable standpoint of "we would like even a semi-functional government at this point." Speaker Jeffries is absolutely not a desirable outcome both politically and most of all practically, because trying to control these shitheads from a minority position, when they can't even do it from a majority position, simply isn't going to work. Right, but the Democrats do seem aware that having a Republican speaker isn't actually a semi-functional government.
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zoux posted:Yeah, many people on twitter noted the same. People don't know how stuff works so you can just lie to them and they'll believe it because of their priors. I'm sure Jim Jordan has similar expenditures, or would if anyone could stand to sit at a table with him for more than 15 minutes. Its going to rule if this works and it ruins dining out in DC for Republican representatives just like living in DC was ruined by iirc Santorum negatively campaigning against the guy he beat in a Republican Primary. A bunch of millionaires having daily images of them bringing sack lunches and microwave meals on their trips to "the swamp".
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/MicaSoellnerDC/status/1712464703979479317 "Steve Scalise is part of the Swamp" says a guy endorsing someone who's been in office longer than him. (Jordan's been in since 2007, one year more than Scalise)  Then again this seems like the right amount of thinking ability for Chip Roy, who used to be Ted Cruz's chief of staff.
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Gerund posted:Its going to rule if this works and it ruins dining out in DC for Republican representatives just like living in DC was ruined by iirc Santorum negatively campaigning against the guy he beat in a Republican Primary. It's not, because no one cares, not even the voters. Or that is to say, they already "care" a bunch but keep voting for the same parties and politicians, the swamp rhetoric doesn't represent real concerns, it's fake. https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1712500782375784654 Dude is polling at 5% in the primary, I assume he's keeping his seat only as leverage to get a better plea deal. Or he's nuts. Here's another NJ Dem that needs to be gone: https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1712275542383472673
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FlamingLiberal posted:Gottheimer has been one of the worst Dems in the House for a long time. Unfortunately it seems like he has a degree of actual power so I don't see him going anywhere. We really need to stop giving disproportionate amounts of power to congresspeople from New Jersey.
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zoux posted:It's not, because no one cares, not even the voters. Or that is to say, they already "care" a bunch but keep voting for the same parties and politicians, the swamp rhetoric doesn't represent real concerns, it's fake. Its a serious moral failing that needs to be investigated and dealt with when the other guy does it, but its the way things get done when my guy does it.
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Large dollar amounts at DC restaurants from campaigns are usually from fundraising dinners; there's not really any sign of corruption involved and it's going to be common for any high-profile member of Congress. It's frankly a weird thing to hit him over.
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Discendo Vox posted:Large dollar amounts at DC restaurants from campaigns are usually from fundraising dinners; there's not really any sign of corruption involved and it's going to be common for any high-profile member of Congress. It's frankly a weird thing to hit him over. I mean not that they’d agree, but the entire foundation of campaign fundraising is corruption to most outsiders who aren’t invested in the legitimacy of the system. It’s a system of buying influence through money. Big PACs and donors know specifically what they hope to get. That all of it has been grandfathered into legality by both parties doesn’t make it not that; it just means you can’t call it that in certain contexts, most importantly contexts where the kayfabe must be upheld. It’s all corruption, though. Nobody with any meaningful power wants publicly funded elections because it would gently caress up the game. Same with most other election reforms; the grift works as it’s supposed to right now.
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https://twitter.com/MicaSoellnerDC/status/1712505885791043667 McGriddles is overselling it, just a simple Egg McMuffin shows you are both fiscally responsible and have elegant good taste.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/MicaSoellnerDC/status/1712505885791043667 You’ve got Trump’s vote.
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