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Ardennes posted:Biden himself is an empty vessel that just takes orders and reads what is given to him. It's is his advisors that are complete lunatics. that's precisely what i mean.
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Zodium posted:yep. just keep asking people which of the Three Options they support. Insisting on option 4: return to status quo lol and also lmao
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Orange Devil posted:Insisting on option 4: return to status quo lol and also lmao The Libs who still remember their basic humanity are insisting on Option 5: Remove Benjamin Netanyahu and all his cronies from the Israeli government and bing bang boom problem solved. Of course, this completely ignores the problem that Bibi and Friends are in power precisely because they're the kind of assholes we want in charge of Israel, but Libs by their worldview are incapable of understanding this.
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Centrist Committee posted:j6 was a big deal in that it should indicate that the system is flying apart, but we’re all hypernormalized to such a degree that we can’t really process the impending destruction of the contending classes. The question was the system "flying apart" because Trump tried a "coup" or that there was an element in DC that was sickened by his association with the Russians and turned one of his rallies against him? My argument is that January 6th wasn't a coup by Trump but a "gag order" against him. It was a way to isolate him and cut him off from the media, and have narrative to force "only one alternative" that has led us here today. Right now, there is a carrier headed to a warzone with a unclear mission. It may be there to posture...but at the same time I am having a harder and harder time seeing that more violence isn't going to occur outside of Gaza and if the US Navy suddenly gets involved it is going to have a lot of spill over.
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paul_soccer12 posted:https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1712354990168187190?t=kgSM60pt9p_VBVxRTOhg4A&s=19 more palestinian imperialism 
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Al-Saqr posted:just a heads up, for all of the hate readers quoting me in SAD, i stand by everything i have said in this thread without remorse or regret, i will always say my piece and stand up against apartheid nazism, and if you disagree feel free to talk to me on this discussion i will politely have a discussion a out it with you and own you in the marketplace of ideas, its truly sad that you are too cowardly to do so and need to run to the principal because your fee fees got hurt, and you dont have any moral backbone or spine when the chips of humanity and decency against the forces of fascism and white colonialism are on the ground, but i never expected any less of people like you. im not gonna go into SAD to make my case or defend myself, i dont need to. here i stand, here are my thoughts, i can do no other. Free palestine, DTI. Free Al-Saqr, DTI, and gently caress the pissy wreckers in SAD
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paul_soccer12 posted:https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1712354990168187190?t=kgSM60pt9p_VBVxRTOhg4A&s=19 Are babies settlers though, that's the real question
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Orange Devil posted:Insisting on option 4: return to status quo lol and also lmao had one guy insist on adding world war 3 as option 4 lol
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1stGear posted:NIXON (muttering): lol
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The current blood lust does have me spooked but it can't top 9/11 until they force flags on everyone.
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Ardennes posted:The question was the system "flying apart" because Trump tried a "coup" or that there was an element in DC that was sickened by his association with the Russians and turned one of his rallies against him? flying apart in that it directly contradicts the myth of stable, peaceful american democracy; so, take your pick as for the carriers, I think we all know what’s going to have to happen to them before we collectively begin to process that ww3 has already started, america is the 4th reich, the wretched of the earth will win, and america as we understand it will end. I think we cspammers assumed this would be off the coast of china, a few years from now. I think we’ve internalized the market logic of “not this quarter, not my problem.” but, hamas had other ideas and I think we’re struggling to process that it might happen a lot sooner than expected, in the mediterranean
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1stGear posted:NIXON (muttering): hot pants?
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/somegizmo/status/1712324353814077570?t=5-YTN1PKShrVMpOegICnPQ&s=19 man did that show really make it overseas? lol err posted:Is Israel just waiting to bomb more stuff before going in? I guess they could be setting up logistics and supply lines and poo poo. They could also be waiting for the Egyptian corridor so the genocide looks more ethical. bunch of active duty mid level officers just got got. they're dotting i's and crossing t's i say swears online has issued a correction as of 08:01 on Oct 12, 2023 |
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Is Israel just waiting to bomb more stuff before going in? I guess they could be setting up logistics and supply lines and poo poo. They could also be waiting for the Egyptian corridor so the genocide looks more ethical.
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Coming into it late and I don't want to post video, but did anyone see that Israel "gave the green light" to the Red Crescent (Red Cross) to go into Gaza and help people, and then they loving targeted and kill one of the paramedics? Not surprising, but add another one to the pile. Here's a tweet without the video: https://twitter.com/PalestineRCS/status/1712078330789241332 War crimes, who cares?!
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err posted:Is Israel just waiting to bomb more stuff before going in? I guess they could be setting up logistics and supply lines and poo poo. They could also be waiting for the Egyptian corridor so the genocide looks more ethical. i hope they don't actually want to go in.. I think there's probably enough people screaming in their ear about how that could be a massive blunder.. that being said the delays could likely be explained by Israel being in the process of mobilizing these supposed 300,000 reservists.
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Centrist Committee posted:flying apart in that it directly contradicts the myth of stable, peaceful american democracy; so, take your pick My vote is a slower grinding piece meal ww3 where there is no official declaration but everything just gets worse. Things are "not so bad right now" and we have a full fledged war in Ukraine, the situation in Gaza (and it looks like the region is a powder keg) but then you have other not insignificant fronts. Anyone remember West Africa? How about Armenia (which was what 2 weeks ago)? How about Kosovo? WW3 is poo poo just compounding on top of each other, there will be no declaration of war or vote in the Senate (and history books will debate it for a generation) but it is just going to be conflicts all over the world, seemingly disparate on the surface but all connected together. I really don't think nukes will be used, liberals are too bullshit to use nukes, they know they can't win through them. Israel isn't a fanatic state, it is a liberal one. If they are throw people under the bus to keep in power they will.
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I don't think you are going to get the majority of the US population to support troops on the ground in Israel or elsewhere in the middle east no matter what bullshit the media spins. People are tired of it all no matter how righteous the media try to make the cause. Isolationism has always been popular in the US, except when the US is attacked directly, and will remain so no matter how much both parties try to ignore it. However the opinion of normal people is irrelevant to dumping billions more into Israel, bombing people, intelligence fuckery, random mayhem via drones or cruise missiles, etc. To whatever degree the US can still do these things.
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i say swears online posted:man did that show really make it overseas? lol idk if my experience was typical for the Filipino middle-class but we had cable and I grew up watching it, along with shows like LA Law, Knots Landing, and Doogie Howser
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i think they're gonna make popup achievements for world leaders called the e-bel peace price and we'll get a free app to vote on which ones, connecting the world like never before 
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Zodium posted:had one guy insist on adding world war 3 as option 4 lol That was his preferred outcome?
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Al-Saqr is right, gently caress the mods. DTI. DTA
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Punished Turtle posted:Al-Saqr is right, gently caress the mods. DTI. DTA have to agree
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Punished Turtle posted:Al-Saqr is right, gently caress the mods. DTI. DTA Many people are saying this. Good, good people
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FuzzySlippers posted:I don't think you are going to get the majority of the US population to support troops on the ground in Israel or elsewhere in the middle east no matter what bullshit the media spins. People are tired of it all no matter how righteous the media try to make the cause. Isolationism has always been popular in the US, except when the US is attacked directly, and will remain so no matter how much both parties try to ignore it. Support for the war in Ukraine was already rapidly dropping, and Washington is still going on with it. Obviously, it is pretty stupid, but remember the US has been doubling and then trippling down on multiple conflicts and not letting go. The question becomes when it gets into a quagmire that eats it alive essentially. The US and Israel can't bomb and occupy the rest of the Middle East, and fear is really their only weapon here. It may be enough (we will see, history is happening in real time) but even if a portion of the Middle East rebels against them, it is going to get real ugly. It is an inflection point where we just have to see what is going to happen.
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FuzzySlippers posted:I don't think you are going to get the majority of the US population to support troops on the ground in Israel or elsewhere in the middle east no matter what bullshit the media spins. .... It really doesn't matter what "the majority of the US population support" though, as you admit. America isn't a democracy -- it's a plutocracy. it's not off the table by any means. If something happens with ___, US is certainly going to fly planes in at the least. i would say we'd first see US start flying planes in and bombing people directly before they send actual ground troops; however, that's just the canary. once that happens (and it's probably just a question of when), it's likely troops follow not long after.
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Orange Devil posted:That was his preferred outcome? accelerationism ftw I guess
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Xaris posted:It really doesn't matter what "the majority of the US population support" though, as you admit. America isn't a democracy -- it's a plutocracy. it's not off the table by any means. If something happens with ___, US is certainly going to fly planes in. To be clear, everything is in flux so who knows. That said, I don't think the US wants to get involved with Iran directly, but there are already American troops in Iraq and Syria. Basically, American troops on already on the ground, the question if the US is going to reinforce them outside of air power or not. Lebanon is a wild card as well. It is why it is a very July 1914 vibe at the moment.
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Ardennes posted:My vote is a slower grinding piece meal ww3 where there is no official declaration but everything just gets worse. agreed it’ll never be declared because liberals don’t understand the forces they’re embodying but I see things as rapidly coming to a head. afghanistan was maybe the last fever dream of a peaceful offramp left over from the obama-bernie era. the killing fields of ukraine are an increasingly absurd attempt to deny the obvious reality of peer conflict. west africa represents the beginning of the territorial breakup and is only going to exacerbate inflation pressures as more former resource colonies turn to china for a better deal. israel just brings everything to a head. there’s no “cooler heads prevail” option. I can’t envision a scenario where israel is allowed to ethnically cleanse or genocide gaza uncontested. idk through christ all things are possible but I don’t think greater pan arab nationalism will allow it without at least one state bowing to popular pressure. there’s no way a “regional war” will ignore those american aircraft carriers. the dipshit nazi democrats might not understand they already started ww3 but everyone in the middle east knows america is evil and must be destroyed. interesting point re: nukes. not sure if it is cope or not but I rather like the idea of everyone being too goddamn dumb to not realize they’re in a world war until they USN is resting at the bottom of the sea anyway d2i d2a free palestine
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FuzzySlippers posted:I don't think you are going to get the majority of the US population to support troops on the ground in Israel or elsewhere in the middle east no matter what bullshit the media spins. People are tired of it all no matter how righteous the media try to make the cause. Isolationism has always been popular in the US, except when the US is attacked directly, and will remain so no matter how much both parties try to ignore it.
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