DiscountDildos posted:

Direct link to the video in case anyone else thought "uhhh... surely this is fake right lol uhhhh lmao right?" like i did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8t8sHnTng

Death By The Blues posted:

Just absolute garbage people

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712458867446305139

Death By The Blues posted:

Just absolute garbage people

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712458867446305139

biceps crimes posted:

people at work were talking about the “beheaded babies” and kind of rolling their eyes about it and saying it seemed sensationalized. these are fairly normie libs

I think the media is trying to induce post 9/11 consensus but there’s way more dissension and skepticism now? I’m in an entirely different place in life than I was back in 9/11, but post 9/11 is a shockingly high bar to meet. idk if this is there yet, though it has shades of it

Fellatio del Toro posted:

https://i.imgur.com/aQJeA69.mp4

Homeless Friend posted:

(newsman voice) hamas is holding more than 100 hostages [panning over walled in city of 2 million, where nobody can leave, being indiscriminately bombed]

DancingShade posted:

40 jelly babies eaten.

quote:

Netanyahu made his comments at a joint press conference in Tel Aviv alongside U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon. "What we're seeing here with Hamas is another instance of Islamist extremism, violent extremism that has no resolvable grievance," Netanyahu said. "Hamas is like ISIS, Hamas is like al Qaeda, Hamas is like Hezbollah, Hamas is like Boko Haram."

Death By The Blues posted:

The big thing is how many of those Shiite miltias from Iraq, Lebanon and Syria will actually join the war once Israel invades Gaza. If that happens then yea Israel will probably find some excuse to bomb Iran.

Red and Black posted:

Really going to enjoy being called a tankie by people defending Israel as they role their tanks into Gaza

Death By The Blues posted:

The big thing is how many of those Shiite miltias from Iraq, Lebanon and Syria will actually join the war once Israel invades Gaza. If that happens then yea Israel will probably find some excuse to bomb Iran. Also, Gaza is being bomb non stop today in particular the north, one residential/apartment building has been completely levelled with at least 30 dead.

RC Cola posted:

I was 11 and had no real opinions when 9/11 happened. I'm here now though and I'm lucky enough to have some coworkers and friends and family who are fully pro Palestine. My mom was telling me some stuff thread has posted before I could get to her. But yeah it's loving scary right now

Phigs posted:

Fun thing is the very claim that Hamas murdered babies AT ALL is the very same claim that they were beheaded.

Poppers posted:

I have photographic sauce that will lead to the complete destruction of Israel. That sauce is juiced. And the juice is fully wet.

gradenko_2000 posted:

yup. they walked back the beheading part, so all the Israel boosters go "but 40 babies were still murdered, just not through beheading" and it then becomes doubtful that even "40 babies were murdered" is true because how the gently caress are there 40 babies in a town of 400 and they're like, all in one place, and then the Hamas fighters took time out of their operation to do it?

gradenko_2000 posted:

how the gently caress are there 40 babies in a town of 400

Death By The Blues posted:

yea good on Naomi loving Klein supporting her settler friends here they are right now opening fire on another Palestinian village

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712396702022275498

Said I wouldn't be back but gently caress bending to the poo poo stain complacent white westerner fascists. Garbage people

Also, in good news Sderot is being "temporarily" abandoned

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1712394876778594646

Israel is denying water and electricity to Palestinian prisoners in jails

https://twitter.com/AJABreaking/status/1712394621634916788

Gazas healthcare system has begun to collapse

https://twitter.com/AlarabyTV/status/1712399014375616608

Mr Hootington posted:

Ok maybe it wasn't 40 beheaded babies, but we have dead infants. Now will you let us genocide in peace?
https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1712458069366440239?t=ssHAlEoIz38kkcwp2p4kFg&s=19

Death By The Blues posted:

Just absolute garbage people

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712458867446305139

BUUNNI posted:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1712228876158394775

IDF has gone insane

4d3d3d posted:

Volunteering to go beat off dead settlers and collect their semen
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1712379114122887350

quote:

It’s 1:30 on October 11th, Steve “David Duke without the baggage” Scalise is about to become Speaker of the House and I couldn’t give a rat’s rear end as to what happens because, whatever wicked poo poo it is, it ain’t going to be about me because at least that’s politically unwise right now. I’m refreshing the Haaretz live updates page waiting for the invasion of the slowly starving residents of Gaza in my name without my consent which will most certainly make any outward display of my heritage even less wise than normal. I’m researching all the possible primary opponents to sitting DSA congresspeople for donation. I’m having serious discussions with The Wife about moving to Israel (if it’s still standing), which requires moving to family I rejected because of their stance on Netanyahu and Palestine, because I watched a segment of American society dissipate with gleeful alacrity before my eyes.

quote:

"Iran warmongering freaks me out more than just about any other Republican stupidity. Even tons of leftists think it'd be "another Iraq". Invading and occupying Iran would not be anything like Iraq. It'd be waaaaaaaaay worse. For a quite a few (mostly mountain-related) reasons:

"Let's look at who we'd be fighting. First of all Iraq had less than half the population of current day Iran. A ~third~ of which were Kurds who were pretty much defacto independent and hostile to Saddam and Sunni militant groups alike. The vast majority of those left were Shiites who don't join Sunni Islamist orgs and weren't exactly keen on Saddam either. So the pool of people that were potentially recruitable by post-Saddam militant groups probably consisted of 5 million people tops. Iran, on the other hand, pretty much have the Balochs, a few million Kurds, and nobody else in the "would never join up with militants in a statistically significant way" camp. So you're looking at a recruiting pool of, oh, lets say 60 million people. Who on average have a much, much stronger sense of national identity than Iraqis do. Iran isn't some arbitrary chunk of land that's been haggled over and passed around like a Thanksgiving side dish between half a dozen empires for the past 800 years. Even the most "pro-western" Iranians are not going to be chill with being invaded. Also likely to be way better armed.

"Now lets look at the environments we'd be fighting in. Iraq at one point had a significant amount of forest and swamps that might have been useful to hide out in. Less so at the time we invaded. Outside of Kurdistan, who were cheering us on, Iraq is as flat as a pancake. Pretty much all Sunni Arab civilization in the country is clustered around a handful of rivers. Between these rivers are exposed flatlands. There's no hiding out in the wilderness here. The core cities are Shiite. It's honestly about as ideal a situation you could ask for to fight against a Sunni insurgency.

"Whereas Iraq had one giant population cluster that pretty much everything radiated out from, Iran's population is spread out over quite a few regions. Keep in mind Tehran alone is significantly more populous than Baghdad, and quite a few of Iran's other cities are pretty big in their own right. With rural supporting populations to match, which don't conveniently follow a small number of rivers like they do in Iraq.

"Oh and lets talk about topography now, starting with the Tehran area. Well well well, look at all those mountains! Boy howdy what a fun place to fight a massive insurrection in.

"And whats that on the other side of the Alborz? Why its the jungles of Hyrcania! Some of the most dense forests in the world. This lovely combination of landscapes is an insurgents wetdream and has made for some fun history.

"Medieval accounts of struggles to bring the region to heel typically describe what we would today call guerrilla warfare, in a time period where that wasn't much of a thing. Arab commanders marched armies in and their mace-crushed skulls were thrown back out. Fun.

"Okay, so Tehran is a nightmare, what about that Esfahan place, surely it's not as bad? Conceded, its landscape isn't as hostile as the Alborz. But, oh wait, it's mountains. Good luck moving troops through them without getting them all gunned down by the defending forces.

"The Zagros range is only as bad as most of Afghanistan. How about Tabriz? Nope, more freaking mountains.

"How bout Kermanshah? How about some mountains?

"Uh....Shiraz? How bout Even. More. Mountains.

"Okay so you keep looking at this topographic map of Iran and you notice that this Ahvaz place isn't in the Zagros range and is in some nice flat-STOP! You remember all those marshes Iraq used to have? Well they're pretty messed up here too, but they still exist.

"The poor souls who get sent here can get their very own Vietnam experience marching through the oil polluted mudflats of Khuzestan! Which for the past while have also gone through a massive drought that's raised a poo poo ton of dust storms, while not actually making the ground any less mudflatty.

"Alright. What about that Mashhad place way up in the Northeast? It's Iran's second biggest city and the mountains seem less dense and and and-

"No.

"There's no relevant area where the terrain isn't hostile as hell to an occupying force and the locals would even grudgingly tolerate our presence the way the Shiite areas of Iraq did. We'd probably lose more people in the initial government toppling than in the entire War on Terror to this point. It'd be impossible to hold without massive Vietnam level death-tolls, and even then I'm not actually sure we could. Due to having a million different fronts it'd be mind mindbogglingly expensive, to the point that it might actually cause the US to go the way of the French Fourth Republic.

"Don't loving invade Iran. It's not worth it."

Phigs posted:

Fun thing is the very claim that Hamas murdered babies AT ALL is the very same claim that they were beheaded. I'm sure Hamas' offensive has caused the death of babies (part of why war is poo poo!), but babies dying in the course of an attack is a very different story from 40 babies being beheaded. And you can't just go, oh turns out they weren't beheaded but who cares how they died, because that still carries the idea that they were executed, just without beheading. There is no evidence of any of it though! Because specifically the beheading is the focus of discussion, the implied execution part of the lie goes unanswered.

But in fact, because it was claimed and verification refused it says to me that it specifically didn't happen. I am less likely to believe Hamas murdered babies than I was without the claim. Killed? Sure. But murdered? No I'm not believing that without solid proof.

And even then it doesn't matter! Because 40 babies executed is a totally hosed up thing for that specific group of people to do. The Hamas offensive overall was obviously focused on military targets so it would obviously have been an outlier, something perpetrated by a small group within the attack at that one location. If it wasn't then we would be hearing about baby executions going on all over the place. And even then 1000 Hamas soldiers are not 2 million Palestinian civilians, so any retribution should still only fall on Hamas themselves.

40 beheaded babies is not some innocent isolated claim. It's a lie perpetuated for the purpose of convincing people that Palestinians are violent savages who need to be wiped out. You can't just go oh turns out this one part was made up but... No 'buts', its an evil loving lie made to justify genocide and anyone trying to salvage any part of it is either ignorant or complicit.

moths posted:

A hosed up thing about banning Al-Saqr is this:

Silencing pro-Palestinian voices under the guise of propriety and decorum is just one tool of the genocide being employed right now, in real time.

Obviously a forums ban is on a smaller scale, but this is a drop from the same poisoned well.

That act, this microcosm of de-personing, is more offensive to the soul than anything depicted in a cartoon.

A wartime cartoon is unsavory, but silencing speech for the oppressed is itself a tool of oppression.

It's upsetting to see it played out again here, of all places.

i am harry posted:

nazi behavior

Toph Bei Fong posted:

La Louve Rouge posted:

they asked her to pay $1500 to pull cum out of a corpse...the indignity of charging someone for that :O

4d3d3d posted:

There's an old Israeli saying, "You want the cum, you gotta pay the sum"

sleep with the vicious posted:

I'm ignorant on modern regional politics compared to many in this thread - is there any possibility of egypt, Jordan, or iran stepping in to help Gaza or are we fully dependent on israel giving up? The doom is breaking me here

Typo posted:

lol

Death By The Blues posted:

Just absolute garbage people

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1712458867446305139

Nonsense posted:

Invading Iran would bring untold misery to the Iranian people, and it would absolutely crush the US Army