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Zoeb posted:I got fired from my first accounting internship after a month from dumb mistakes. I felt like a fool. Maybe the next one will work out better. I really liked that job too. I am going to graduate soon. I just want a job where I can sit down while working. I believe you can make it 19 o'clock posted:Sleep helps. Fresh eyes work wonders. Thanks for the comfort mate  I just feeling down and need to try harder and reach out.
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Annointed posted:I just feeling down and need to try harder and reach out. Take it from a woefully unemployed and disenchanted accountant who is sheepishly looking at getting back into the field: you’re doing fine. You’re still so new that I wouldn’t have any expectations that you would master closing all of your assigned accounts yet. I go into triage mode when faced with a bunch of work. Which accounts are most important and which ones can be back burner’d. That’s all manager stuff which is what I can’t glean from your posts, though. If I had a new staff in their first accounting role I would likely be doing the account close myself. My main focus for them at first would be just having them do the mundane day to day account maintenance until they were really comfy with how it all works. That’s just my experience and philosophy, though. Most of all just don’t be too hard on yourself.
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Oct 10, 2023 04:41
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Tried to finish what I could. Couldn't get a clean close. Now have to do accrual.
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Oct 12, 2023 00:55
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Got a bit of a scare today. Things are going well at work, but someone in AP got fired today after a year. Even though its a different department, it does scare me a little.
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Oct 12, 2023 00:57
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Covok posted:Got a bit of a scare today. Things are going well at work, but someone in AP got fired today after a year. Even though its a different department, it does scare me a little. I worry of getting fired too.
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Oct 12, 2023 02:09
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Annointed posted:I worry of getting fired too. Worry not; that is the path to ruin. An infinite amount of carefree idiots have coasted through lucrative careers - worrying only leads to stress, and stress leads to substance abuse and heart disease. Or something. I'm not really sure if that's wisdom or not, tbh. What I will say is that I had a Director once that repeated this phrase like a mantra: "On to the next one." I think he might have been on to something; it works great for back-to-back meetings, quitting jobs, and recovering from disastrous Tinder dates. In my opinion, if you're not making mistakes, then you're not learning anything. Embrace the mistakes as the catalyst for personal growth, and sell the gently caress out of what you learned from each one. As long as you don't keep making the same one over and over again, you're doing alright. In my experience, it can take up to 6 months to master a closing process; from there, you'll spend the next 8-12 months coming up with ways to improve it, and then any time after that contemplating self-harm just so you can avoid having to go through the motions of the improved and efficient processes that you yourself have created. In other words, you will soon free yourself from such worries, and eventually imprison yourself in new and horrifically unexciting ways. Then you'll leave for another company and the cycle will start anew 
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Oct 12, 2023 04:09
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I spent the last day or two fixing up a file for my old boss because I decided to check my work email on the Monday of a long weekend. Like, "I can't believe you forgot <X>, <Y>, <Z> in your file. <Client> gave us their summaries!" I was able to smoothen most of it over with him Tuesday morning because it turned out that no, the client didn't give this stuff (sole proprietorship, first year as a corporation). I missed some stuff but the client now had a separate bank account for her information and gave us a lot of other stuff and didn't actually give us a summary. Still, that was rough. The new partner I'm working for is out of the country so I was supposed to have a staff meeting, but I rushed to finish this and I realized that I should finally have a staff meeting this week because he told me to do one with the new office.
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Oct 12, 2023 18:08
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As a firm partner who cannot find accountants of any xp level to hire: The jobs are out there friends!! You'll find your spot!!! KEEP GOING
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Oct 12, 2023 19:51
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How Out of over a dozen invoices i self checked Only 2 were good to send God loving dammit why can't i just do right today do my work run and put this all behind me
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Oct 12, 2023 23:22
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Getting in a spiral of self doubt is actually the easiest path to constant gently caress ups. When I was at my worst my first year my senior told me ‘yo, chill, we aren’t saving lives here’ and that unfucked my mind a good deal So today I say the same to you
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Oct 12, 2023 23:28
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Annointed posted:How Honestly dude I was a crappy staff accountant and a mixed bag as a senior. Attention to detail? No that poo poo is not for me. When I was creating models or doing super complex things, awesome, but filling out and triple checking an invoice? gently caress that. Now I’m a CFO and it’s much better. There are people who love getting the numbers just right or doing manual entry. Do your best, do your time and move on to the next job, accounting is very broad and once you get some experience you’ll find a job you like and are good at.
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Oct 12, 2023 23:28
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One thing I am struggling with is that I don't have a car and use public transportation here in Chicago and I will meet with a firm at a job fair and that is a deal breaker for them or they are based way out in the suburbs with no transit access. I went to a job fair today and the firm said that there used to be bus service in front of their office but no longer but they would not consider making the role remote. I wouldn't be able to get a car until I got a job but even then I am not sure if I would want one because there is no place to park it in my neighborhood and Chicago is aggressive in tickets in order to raise revenue. Chicago's government doesn't seem to want people to have cars.
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Oct 12, 2023 23:28
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Zoeb posted:One thing I am struggling with is that I don't have a car and use public transportation here in Chicago and I will meet with a firm at a job fair and that is a deal breaker for them or they are based way out in the suburbs with no transit access. I went to a job fair today and the firm said that there used to be bus service in front of their office but no longer but they would not consider making the role remote. I wouldn't be able to get a car until I got a job but even then I am not sure if I would want one because there is no place to park it in my neighborhood and Chicago is aggressive in tickets in order to raise revenue. Chicago's government doesn't seem to want people to have cars. I also worked audit in Chicago and you absolutely need a car. All the housing and the firms are in downtown, but basically all of the clients are out in the suburbs. Sucks but that’s just how the city works. I left because I was so goddam sick of the hour plus commute every day
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Oct 12, 2023 23:32
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Annointed posted:How Like Good Citizen said, try not to get into a spiral . It's hard but you need to try to relax. Focus on one thing at a time. That's honestly my motto, one thing at a time, I can't do everything at once and if I try mistakes happen. So every tax season as my desk descends into a pit of folders I just try to pick one thing I can finish and then go on to the next and so on and so forth.
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Oct 12, 2023 23:41
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Good Citizen posted:I also worked audit in Chicago and you absolutely need a car. All the housing and the firms are in downtown, but basically all of the clients are out in the suburbs. Sucks but that’s just how the city works. I left because I was so goddam sick of the hour plus commute every day I don't know what I am going to do then. I was thinking of just not doing audit and doing tax or being a staff accountant instead.
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Oct 12, 2023 23:51
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Thanks for the kind words everyone. I received a discuplinary hearing over me not pulling my weight. They seem towant to help me succeed. I just hate how I cannot seem to find the right words to explain myself. Annointed fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Oct 13, 2023 00:42
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Annointed posted:Thanks for the kind words everyone. I received a discuplinary hearing over me not pulling my weight. This is probably not what you want to hear since I know you struggled getting this job, and some people may disagree with me, but it’s probably time to start submitting apps again. Even for employers who see themselves as having good intentions it’s real hard to get back into their positive graces after having that conversation/reprimand. And for employers without good intentions they’re just a way to cover your rear end against wrongful termination suits. Also it sounds like they suck if they’re this critical of such a new staff Obviously don’t quit while job searching
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Oct 13, 2023 01:22
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Good Citizen posted:Also it sounds like they suck if they’re this critical of such a new staff its a little crazy imho that they would be doing a disciplinary meeting so early on.
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Oct 13, 2023 01:29
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Wait wait maybe it wasn't disciplinary just the controller taking me to their office and explaining what is going on and what they can do to help. They did make me sign a paper as proof I did get this meeting Just gently caress feels like everything in my head is going wrong.
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Annointed posted:Wait wait maybe it wasn't disciplinary just the controller taking me to their office and explaining what is going on and what they can do to help. They did make me sign a paper as proof I did get this meeting If you signed something it’s a formal reprimand
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Good Citizen posted:If you signed something it’s a formal reprimand Well I'm hosed then I guess 
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Oct 13, 2023 03:32
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How long have you been there? I just feel bad that you are in a lovely situation so early on. Seriously just stay positive and don’t let any of it get to you. Easier said than done, of course, but it sounds like they aren’t giving you a fair learning curve is my first instinct.
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Oct 13, 2023 04:13
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19 o'clock posted:How long have you been there? I just feel bad that you are in a lovely situation so early on. 4 weeks. hosed up September Closing.
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Oct 13, 2023 04:20
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I don't understand the point of "discipline" or "coaching" like it's a middle school. Either this person has potential to be a valuable part of the team and you train them up where they're deficient, or I guess it's just a step toward letting them go. As if accounting grads grow on trees these days. A person mentioned earlier that they got fired from an internship. That is insane; interns are supposed to be learning, any productivity they create is incidental. What the gently caress is wrong with the industry these days?
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Annointed posted:4 weeks. hosed up September Closing. That is an insanely quick turnaround to get live responsibilities for month end closing. I got a full practice month and a handheld closing-in-tandem month before being set loose and my role is operational reporting and I came in with years of experience.
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Oct 13, 2023 04:46
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Yeah, sounds like incompetent management to me.
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Oct 13, 2023 04:48
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Annointed posted:4 weeks. hosed up September Closing. Gabriel Grub posted:Yeah, sounds like incompetent management to me. For real. The problem is squarely on them if they think a brand new staff level accountant is going to handle their first close with zero issues. As a new hire no less! You’re not crazy and you don’t suck, OP. The situation is unreasonable. Don’t let it get to you.
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Democratic Pirate posted:That is an insanely quick turnaround to get live responsibilities for month end closing. I got a full practice month and a handheld closing-in-tandem month before being set loose and my role is operational reporting and I came in with years of experience. This! I’m experienced and jobs I’m interviewing for are quoting me months of learning curve time. Any sane manager is going to create that space to learn.
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19 o'clock posted:For real. The problem is squarely on them if they think a brand new staff level accountant is going to handle their first close with zero issues. As a new hire no less! I agree but this dude has had trouble finding a job so it especially sucks
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Good Citizen posted:it especially sucks
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19 o'clock posted:For real. The problem is squarely on them if they think a brand new staff level accountant is going to handle their first close with zero issues. As a new hire no less! Yeah this sounds like a shithole. I would just look for a new role or look for tax/audit stuff if you don’t want to book journal entries.
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Good news mates. Was able to do a close with mostly done. Been taken off of my third property so only looking at two properties now instead of three. Everything scanned, signed and posted and paid with checks sent out. I hope this weekend helps me not lose my head.
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Good work and happy to hear it! I still think it's crazy they threw that much at you. Next close you'll be even more inured to the nonsense and be able to move through it easier. It all builds as you know. Let me talk to your boss so I can laugh in their face and shake them.
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Good news got through my queue for one property. It the other one that being a pain. Ngl mate i am hating how much my boss is constantly having me calc my completion rate of invoices. Yes i loving know that despite others helping me I am only finishing invoices every 8.7 min is not acceptable. No I don't like how I'm slowing down to try to figure out problems like incomplete invoices or not having a packing slip. They are fraying my nerves.
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Sometimes I regret being in public tax and then I see poo poo like that and think it could be worse
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What you've described sounds awful. ist posted:Please understand that the way your boss is managing you is extremely atypical and that you will have a much better experience working elsewhere. I'm not saying you should necessarily quit immediately without something lined up -- looks like it took you awhile to find that job and it may be a struggle to find another right away (especially if it's your only relevant work experience), but at least know that it will be better when you find a new place to work. This.
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ist posted:Please understand that the way your boss is managing you is extremely atypical and that you will have a much better experience working elsewhere. I'm not saying you should necessarily quit immediately without something lined up -- looks like it took you awhile to find that job and it may be a struggle to find another right away (especially if it's your only relevant work experience), but at least know that it will be better when you find a new place to work. Have you worked at nonprofits? Because no. Nonprofit accounting roles are extremely uneven. Some are great. Others are not.
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ist posted:Please understand that the way your boss is managing you is extremely atypical and that you will have a much better experience working elsewhere. I'm not saying you should necessarily quit immediately without something lined up -- looks like it took you awhile to find that job and it may be a struggle to find another right away (especially if it's your only relevant work experience), but at least know that it will be better when you find a new place to work. Strongly agree with this part of the post Not to say there aren’t little accounting fiefdoms run by shithead Controllers all over the industry, but it’s more the exception than the rule. Most people rightly realize that this is an apprenticeship profession and taking on a fresh staff is like adopting a new puppy and a big commitment of your time and understanding. And they know that because they remember being a dumb as hell staff themselves Really wishing you the best at either finding a new job or coping cause it sounds bad
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Good Citizen posted:Most people rightly realize that this is an apprenticeship profession and taking on a fresh staff is like adopting a new puppy and a big commitment of your time and understanding. And they know that because they remember being a dumb as hell staff themselves This was literally me when I graduated college and got my first job.
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