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bentacos
Oct 9, 2012
The final fantasy characters are all there, just off screen, laughing and keyblading.

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ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

Willo567 posted:

isn't this based off an italian donald duck comic? even as a kid i thought this poo poo was weird

Yes, it comes from the Italian 'continuity' of Disney comics. Paperinik was conceived as a riff on popular exploitation comic book anti-heroes of the 1960s like Diabolik, Satanik and Kriminal.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Once on Disney Infinity they had finally decided that they were gonna greenlight A DUCK CHARACTER to make a toy of and put in the game, etc. We were excited, and people had been pushing for various Ducks like Darkwing or Scrooge or sure, Donald, or whatever, but then we were told "BUT Europe gets to pick which duck. Europe loving LOVES THE DUCKS. If we release the wrong Duck in America, no one will care, but if we release the wrong Duck in Europe, oh man, everyone will be PISSED".

I'm pretty sure EuroDisney just picked Donald in the end.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

ErrEff posted:

Yes, it comes from the Italian 'continuity' of Disney comics. Paperinik was conceived as a riff on popular exploitation comic book anti-heroes of the 1960s like Diabolik, Satanik and Kriminal.


They also rocked. Like they were legit good stories that I got real mad when they got cancelled.

Speaking of, real shame what happened with Harebraine Schemes. And to think they wanted to follow up on the succesful Battletech :(

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

ImpAtom posted:

I mean the second KH game had Chicken loving Little.

It's really funny that Chicken Little is in Kingdom Hearts 2 but it wouldn't have been considered an obscure film at the time, it was the newest movie featured in the game and was basically the beginning of Disney's push for CGI films. This isn't really disagreeing with the greater point that there hasn't really been a change in how the Disney material is approached, though.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



This is always funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjcPItRt1Zw

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Lipstick Apathy

mutata posted:

Once on Disney Infinity they had finally decided that they were gonna greenlight A DUCK CHARACTER to make a toy of and put in the game, etc. We were excited, and people had been pushing for various Ducks like Darkwing or Scrooge or sure, Donald, or whatever, but then we were told "BUT Europe gets to pick which duck. Europe loving LOVES THE DUCKS. If we release the wrong Duck in America, no one will care, but if we release the wrong Duck in Europe, oh man, everyone will be PISSED".

I'm pretty sure EuroDisney just picked Donald in the end.

They probably were just like "why was this so hard?"

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

mycot posted:

It's really funny that Chicken Little is in Kingdom Hearts 2 but it wouldn't have been considered an obscure film at the time, it was the newest movie featured in the game and was basically the beginning of Disney's push for CGI films. This isn't really disagreeing with the greater point that there hasn't really been a change in how the Disney material is approached, though.

No, that is what I meant. Chicken Little was in KH2 because Disney wanted to push one of their big new films. It's kind of how it has always been handled

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I miss when disney wasnt so commercial...

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

ImpAtom posted:

No, that is what I meant. Chicken Little was in KH2 because Disney wanted to push one of their big new films. It's kind of how it has always been handled

Ah I see what you meant now.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Willo567 posted:

isn't this based off an italian donald duck comic? even as a kid i thought this poo poo was weird

I guess you were a bitch rear end kid. Duck comics for lyfe

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

ErrEff posted:

Yes, it comes from the Italian 'continuity' of Disney comics. Paperinik was conceived as a riff on popular exploitation comic book anti-heroes of the 1960s like Diabolik, Satanik and Kriminal.

Interesting!

It’s called Iron Duck in Danish. Turns up occasionally in comics here.

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Fruits of the sea posted:

Interesting!

It’s called Iron Duck in Danish. Turns up occasionally in comics here.

The Norwegian version is "Phantonald" ("Fantonald" in Norwegian), probably because the mask gave him a resemblance to Lee Falk's The Phantom whose comics were really popular here.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3

No Wave posted:

I miss when disney wasnt so commercial...

You miss the 1950's?

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

The old duck comics are great but I admit to having a hard time enjoying Scrooge McDuck stuff these days.

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib

Fruits of the sea posted:

Interesting!

It’s called Iron Duck in Danish. Turns up occasionally in comics here.


AG3 posted:

The Norwegian version is "Phantonald" ("Fantonald" in Norwegian), probably because the mask gave him a resemblance to Lee Falk's The Phantom whose comics were really popular here.

Magic Cape (Taikaviitta) in Finnish. No idea why.

Boo This Man
Mar 25, 2008

FishMcCool posted:

Isn't Disney also losing a lot of money with Disney+ because they couldn't accept some of the money from Netflix when they could (in their dreams) have all the money by doing it themselves?

Yes. Disney could have made money from Netflix if they expanded their previous partnership.

MadHat
Mar 31, 2011
Not an issue with Disney specifically basically every Media company saw Netflix and instead of saying we should get a bigger piece of that pie they all immediately tried to bake their own.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

ImpAtom posted:

The old duck comics are great but I admit to having a hard time enjoying Scrooge McDuck stuff these days.

The European comics have always portrayed Scrooge far more often as a straight up villain than the "made my money fair and square" Don Rosa bullshit. A lot of the times he can be reluctantly shamed or tries to hide his hidden generosity but he comes super close to just letting his family die in the name of money.

I remember reading in some forum that this was because the Italian comics (which were then later translated) were mostly staffed by socialist neo-realist writers as a side gig. I couldn't find anything confirming this but I WANT it to be true.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
One of Disney's big problems is also being obsessed with their own Branding to the point of paralysis, which combines very badly with the overmanaging of the big properties by suits who very obviously have no idea what they're doing. They're obsessed with trivial poo poo that doesn't matter but their meddling and negligence cripples the stuff that does. And not understanding the basics of media they try to meddle with doesn't help.

The whole lockdown on Mickey being allowed to do anything interesting to the point where he's a shorthand for a bland and boring 'wholesome' corporate mascot no one gives a poo poo about except the weirdest rusted-on fans is kinda case in point.

IIRC, the Kingdom Hearts games have had a weirdly mixed treatment by Disney, the Frozen and Tangled worlds being basically recreations of the movies because Disney refuses to let them add or change anything for their current cash cows, while the other stuff is basically 'sure, whatever, go nuts'.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

IIRC, the Kingdom Hearts games have had a weirdly mixed treatment by Disney, the Frozen and Tangled worlds being basically recreations of the movies because Disney refuses to let them add or change anything for their current cash cows, while the other stuff is basically 'sure, whatever, go nuts'.

I heard sort of the opposite. You can tell that in Kingdom Hearts 1 there was an actual effort to integrate Disney villains into the plot, to the point that they had their own little Legion of Doom with Maleficent as the head and OC Ansem as the ultimate villain. Then you get to Chain of Memories and KH2 and all of a sudden they dump a truck load of OCs in the form of Organization XIII and the various Xehanorts and all the Disney worlds and characters become an IP safari that the PCs visit and basically reenact movie setpieces. Maleficent and Pete are there doing some Heartless related nonsence because no one cares about them.

The big rumor I keep hearing (which I never found confirmation of but it 100% feels like the sort of thing Disney would do) is that Square radically changed direction after KH1 involved having to run pretty much every decision regarding the Disney characters through a long approvals process ("Jaffar wouldn't do this" "Hook would say that", etc) so they decided to just stick to the original properties and characterization as much as possible.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
The CMA has approved the Microsoft/Activision-Blizzard deal following MS offloading the cloud gaming rights to Ubisoft, meaning that there are no longer any obstacles to the deal being closed.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
microsoft HR cleaning their silencers and washing the insides out of their unmarked vans, getting things nice and ready for the ATVI management

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

BULBASAUR posted:

microsoft HR cleaning their silencers and washing the insides out of their unmarked vans, getting things nice and ready for the ATVI management
Hydrochloric acid and quicklime suddenly, rapidly selling out at every supplier in Washington state.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'd still kind of be surprised if Microsoft would actually go through with cleaning house in ABK, no matter how much it's clearly sorely needed. Microsoft isn't exactly famed for having a healthy and well managed corporate culture itself. Though they might make at least a good stab at getting rid of the problems while they have the chance.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Yeah except the room he's entering is one filled with millions and millions of dollars.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

DaveKap posted:

Yeah except the room he's entering is one filled with millions and millions of dollars.

hey, let me dream for a minute

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Ghost Leviathan posted:

One of Disney's big problems is also being obsessed with their own Branding to the point of paralysis, which combines very badly with the overmanaging of the big properties by suits who very obviously have no idea what they're doing. They're obsessed with trivial poo poo that doesn't matter but their meddling and negligence cripples the stuff that does. And not understanding the basics of media they try to meddle with doesn't help.

The whole lockdown on Mickey being allowed to do anything interesting to the point where he's a shorthand for a bland and boring 'wholesome' corporate mascot no one gives a poo poo about except the weirdest rusted-on fans is kinda case in point.

IIRC, the Kingdom Hearts games have had a weirdly mixed treatment by Disney, the Frozen and Tangled worlds being basically recreations of the movies because Disney refuses to let them add or change anything for their current cash cows, while the other stuff is basically 'sure, whatever, go nuts'.

Have you seen a Mickey Mouse cartoon made in the past 10 years?

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib

AceOfFlames posted:

The European comics have always portrayed Scrooge far more often as a straight up villain than the "made my money fair and square" Don Rosa bullshit. A lot of the times he can be reluctantly shamed or tries to hide his hidden generosity but he comes super close to just letting his family die in the name of money.

I remember reading in some forum that this was because the Italian comics (which were then later translated) were mostly staffed by socialist neo-realist writers as a side gig. I couldn't find anything confirming this but I WANT it to be true.

Even Don Rosa has Scrooge go do some imperialism in Africa after getting rich.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

mutata posted:

Have you seen a Mickey Mouse cartoon made in the past 10 years?

Yes, and some of em are fun, but you never hear about em except as counterpoints. They're certainly not getting any major profile- heck, the new DuckTales show writers were down to include Mickey but Disney nixed any script involving him. (and they barely got away with references to him) And even then it seems too little, too late, no one alive really has nostalgia about anything to do with Mickey Mouse himself, outside maybe Disneyland-specific stuff or Kingdom Hearts.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.
the plot of so many european comics is Scrooge trying to avoid taxes

or Donald trying to find a new job because has a massive pile of debts and hordes of angry creditors

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.
as an adult i believe uncle scrooge should be hanged

CBD Corndog
Jun 21, 2009



The Kins posted:

The CMA has approved the Microsoft/Activision-Blizzard deal following MS offloading the cloud gaming rights to Ubisoft, meaning that there are no longer any obstacles to the deal being closed.

And it’s done

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/technology/microsoft-activision-blizzard-deal-closes.html

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Ghost Leviathan posted:

One of Disney's big problems is also being obsessed with their own Branding to the point of paralysis, which combines very badly with the overmanaging of the big properties by suits who very obviously have no idea what they're doing. They're obsessed with trivial poo poo that doesn't matter but their meddling and negligence cripples the stuff that does. And not understanding the basics of media they try to meddle with doesn't help.

The whole lockdown on Mickey being allowed to do anything interesting to the point where he's a shorthand for a bland and boring 'wholesome' corporate mascot no one gives a poo poo about except the weirdest rusted-on fans is kinda case in point.

Mickey Mouse is also a completely different character in Euro comics. Most of the stories involve him being a hard-boiled consulting detective and can get pretty dark at times.

Staltran posted:

Even Don Rosa has Scrooge go do some imperialism in Africa after getting rich.

Most of the events The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck are taken from old Barks stories, including that one. Rosa actually used to be controversial in the European duck community because he wrote a lot of adaptations and sequels based on Barks stories, and some Barks purists saw it as disrespectful.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


https://twitter.com/charlieintel/status/1712823032870215963

Now I imagine Phil Spencer slowly turning to face the screen. He then says "and you" with red glowing eyes and his right hand reaching through the screen.

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
I'm interested to see how they leverage all the mobile poo poo that king has. I wonder if they'll try to get back in the phone game with a combo phone / gamepass streaming device.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

goblin week posted:

the plot of so many european comics is Scrooge trying to avoid taxes

One of the dumbest plots I have ever seen on a Scrooge comic was him getting selected for the world's easiest game show and trying to tank on purpose because he only found out after getting picked that winning would make him go up a tax bracket and lose money as a result. Not only is this yet another instance of people not knowing how marginal tax works, the thought of the richest person in the world going up a tax bracket is absurd.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


External Organs posted:

I'm interested to see how they leverage all the mobile poo poo that king has. I wonder if they'll try to get back in the phone game with a combo phone / gamepass streaming device.

No they want to be the big third party gaming app store once iOS enables that stuff. Microsoft are apparently killing the Surface line since the head of that project recently left so no more phones.

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External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."

njsykora posted:

No they want to be the big third party gaming app store once iOS enables that stuff. Microsoft are apparently killing the Surface line since the head of that project recently left so no more phones.

Too bad. I'd love something that's more akin to a stream deck. But maybe the phone thing could work like that I guess.

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