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Which ghost of MMA still haunts you? This poll is closed. |
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| Nick Diaz |
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1 | 3.57% |
| Chuck Liddell |
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5 | 17.86% |
| Matt Serra |
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| Matt Serra |
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2 | 7.14% |
| Matt Serra |
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| Oh no you said his name three times |
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8 | 28.57% |
| Run |
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1 | 3.57% |
| RUN |
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11 | 39.29% |
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I was surprised when the photos of juiced up Conor were coming out that even Joe Rogan was saying "he looks like his piss would melt the cup if he were to get drug tested" - does anyone know who the commentator is that USADA mentioned in their statement?
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Oct 12, 2023 17:13
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blue footed boobie posted:I’ve always been under the impression that all UFC does for weight cuts is to maybe answer the phone when a fighter calls to say they hosed it up and can’t fight. Also I don’t know a lot about the performance institutes but it seems like they’re pretty vanilla gyms that are usually empty? they’ve been taking a much more active role in monitoring weights and providing advice. they provide all the meals and specific weight cutting instruction of any fighter wants it, and even with high level guys who can afford their own specialists, they are still checking in at least daily to monitor everything. they want to avoid incidents like Khabib hitting his head on the tub again, get earlier notice if a fighter is on track to miss so they can readjust things if necessary, and they want to educate fighters and camps and disseminate knowledge and prevent some of the more Josh Fabia-level grifters from ruining fights. With the PIs, again fighters can get year round food for free and performance and actual MMA training with all of their specialists. The UFC likes having guys in Vegas for all their in house shows and for possible replacements for the rest of their cards, so free coaching and food and supplements and performance monitoring and coaching and pre-specialist medical advice they just give for free. which makes the independent contractor grift all the more stupid and insulting, given how much control they can exert over a fighter’s whole life if he chooses to make the wise economic decision of going deep into the ecosystem of a PI. but you can also see how this is all set up to just start giving fighters things that are either straight PEDs once they control it or borderline PEDs or whatever. they’ll probably just juice up a guy with stem cells and HGH and TRT from a friendly doctor in the name or “athlete recovery and excellence”, wait a few months so that he can pass a commission test, and let em fight. i don’t think they’ll ever get into straight fixing fights like Pride did, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up giving certain “medical advice and performance optimization” to some fighters and less of that to other fighters. who’s gonna stop em. they’re just following (doctor’s) orders
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Oct 12, 2023 17:50
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Is a tub the only L Khabib will never get back? Wasn’t that Barao?
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Oct 12, 2023 17:53
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:they’ve been taking a much more active role in monitoring weights and providing advice. they provide all the meals and specific weight cutting instruction of any fighter wants it, and even with high level guys who can afford their own specialists, they are still checking in at least daily to monitor everything. they want to avoid incidents like Khabib hitting his head on the tub again, get earlier notice if a fighter is on track to miss so they can readjust things if necessary, and they want to educate fighters and camps and disseminate knowledge and prevent some of the more Josh Fabia-level grifters from ruining fights. So the free food is only fresh stuff on site? No stipend/shipped stuff for the journeyman training in BFE?
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Oct 12, 2023 18:19
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Khabib was defeated by tiramisu. And whatever body parts exploded. Knees, maybe? Kidneys?
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Oct 12, 2023 18:19
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Imagine how amazing it would be if Chandler knocks Conor out, pays for USADA to come to the cage, takes the test during his winners interview and it comes back clean
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Oct 12, 2023 18:21
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mewse posted:I was surprised when the photos of juiced up Conor were coming out that even Joe Rogan was saying "he looks like his piss would melt the cup if he were to get drug tested"  
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Oct 12, 2023 18:28
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I wonder if Conor will learn that fighting juiced isn't as much fun when everyone else is also fighting juiced.
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Oct 12, 2023 18:47
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wasnt it t-ferg that ate quail eggs and died or was that someone else
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Oct 12, 2023 19:56
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kimbo305 posted:So the free food is only fresh stuff on site? No stipend/shipped stuff for the journeyman training in BFE? I'm not sure. I believe so. I think they might have been partnering with Factor or one of those other premade food delivery companies, so maybe they offered it outside of the PI, but I can't remember.
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Oct 12, 2023 20:18
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In case anyone was wondering 
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Oct 12, 2023 20:20
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quote:>> The high lav <<
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Oct 12, 2023 20:37
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Joey McChrist posted:wasnt it t-ferg that ate quail eggs and died or was that someone else Diego Sanchez lost because he ate steak tartare and raw quail eggs
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Oct 12, 2023 20:57
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Can’t risk anyone seeing his tiny bits at the urinal
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Oct 12, 2023 21:06
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1glitch0 posted:I wonder if Conor will learn that fighting juiced isn't as much fun when everyone else is also fighting juiced. 
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Oct 12, 2023 21:18
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Shumagorath posted:Can’t risk anyone seeing his tiny bits at the urinal I do wonder if anyone explained to Conor that you can do coke in the bathroom and then leave the bathroom
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Oct 12, 2023 21:25
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you're under assumption that conor ever stops doing coke long enough to leave the bathroom
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Oct 12, 2023 21:43
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but what if... i bring the party into the shitter so i can simply keep doing coke the entire night? oh ho, delightfully devilish conor
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Oct 12, 2023 21:43
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Come back Vitor! It is once again the time of the Old Dinosaur Lion to rise
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Oct 12, 2023 22:52
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Come back Vitor! It is once again the time of the Old Dinosaur Lion to rise He is the dinosaur fighting the lion.. but he is also the lion
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Oct 12, 2023 23:39
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UFC doing a press conference talking about USADA. https://x.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1712593661672702043?s=20 Raimondi is also tweeting but isn't doing a thread https://twitter.com/marcraimondi Long short is USADA is bad, they did horrible things to Conor, UFC might sue them
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Oct 12, 2023 23:42
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The UFC is partnering with Drug Free Sport International for their new drug testing program, and also, USADA has to retract their statement about Conor McGregor and issue an apology within the next 75 minutes or the UFC is going to sue them.
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Oct 12, 2023 23:42
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anyone have non-X format
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Oct 12, 2023 23:42
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mewse posted:He is the dinosaur fighting the lion.. but he is also the lion inside of you are two vitors..
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Oct 12, 2023 23:43
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mewse posted:anyone have non-X format Aaron Bronsteter's tweets UFC Executive Vice President and Chief Business Officer Hunter Campbell and UFC Senior Vice President of Athlete Health & Performance Jeff Novitzky are speaking with the media regarding the UFC's partnership with USADA concluding at the end of 2023. Campbell says that the UFC have sent a legal letter to USADA that will be issued to media soon BREAKING: The UFC will be partnering with Drug Free Sport International in the future Campbell says that what USADA have done to Conor McGregor is disgusting and that they may be legally liable for it. Campbell says that USADA CEO Travis Tygart "lost his mind" on the phone call that they had on Monday after he was told that the UFC were going in a different direction. Campbell says that testing will continue through the end of the year and that in the new year, they will launch a new program. Campbell says that the way USADA have treated McGregor is different from how they have treated any other athlete in the past. Campbell says that they plan on having an anti-doping program that will be even better than what they had with USADA. Novitzky says that he is very happy with how the program has gone and that they have had less than a 1% positivity rate. He says that the UFC have learned that USADA is not the only player in the space and that they have the means to make the next program stronger and better. Novitzky says that he will never be involved in a program that isn't the gold, and now platinum, standard. Novitzky says that he has dedicated his life to anti-doping, even at the risk of his family. Calls USADA's narrative yesterday "garbage" and "trash" He says that it has done damage to the emphasis that the UFC have put on anti-doping. Novitzky says that the athlete experience under USADA has not been popular due to the burden that it has put on them. He says that the UFC's internal team has been hard at work to give the athletes better technology when it comes to whereabouts reporting. The UFC will be continuing the milestone recognition program. Novitzky says that they will continue to have the most transparent anti-doping program in pro sports. Novitzky says that Drug Free Sports International will be tasked with sample collection, as they have been for the NBA, NFL, NHL, WNBA, NASCAR and many other pro sports leagues. Novitzky says that Drug Free Sports International is a perfect fit with the UFC because of how experienced they are with sample collection. Novitzky says that Dr. Dan Eichner, who runs the SMRTL lab, which has the highest accreditation in anti-doping, will run the UFC's laboratory analysis and the science. Per Eichner's recommendation, they will have the best EPO testing, use a leeching device called TASSO+, which does not require needles and blood draws. They will increase blood testing using this new method. Novitzky says that they will have the most comprehensive prohibited list. They will implement oral fluid testing to be stored long-term to compare in case using stimulants proves to be an issue. Novitzky says that they will be using advanced growth hormone detection as well. They will continue to look at biological passports with additional enhancements. Calls it "smarter, more efficient, more effective technology and more convenient for the athletes" Campbell counters what Tygart had told him about the UFC not having truly independent testing, says that this will add even more independence under this new program. Campbell says that he received a call from California State Athletic Commission Andy Foster after USADA issued their press release that he was happy that the UFC would no longer be working with USADA because they have been difficult for his commission to deal with. Novitzky says that the independent administrator running the UFC's next anti-doping program is George Piro. George Piro was a special agent in charge at the FBI's Miami Field Office, was the Team Leader of the Saddam Hussein Interrogation Team in 2004 (per Wikipedia) Novitzky says that the independent administrator running the UFC's next anti-doping program is George Piro. George Piro was a special agent in charge at the FBI's Miami Field Office, was the Team Leader of the Saddam Hussein Interrogation Team in 2004 (per Wikipedia) Novitzky says that Piro will make EVERY decision in the program and that the authority will be his and his alone. Novitzky says that he will be surrounded by many expects, including the aforementioned Dr. Eichner. Novitzky says that despite the "garbage narrative" that USADA put out, that the proof will be in the pudding that the UFC's new anti-doping program will be superior to the one with USADA. Novitzky says that USADA's press release has confused the fighters and managers and that it is counter-intuitive to their claims that they are looking out for the athletes. Start talking about Conor now Campbell says that USADA's response to the McGregor situation has proven that they run like a dictatorship. He says that they have tried to impose their will on the UFC and that McGregor, as an independent contractor, isn't the type of athlete that they are used to dealing with. Campbell says that he assured Tygart that McGregor wasn't fighting in December after McGregor proclaimed that he was. Campbell says that there was NEVER going to be an exception made for McGregor where he wouldn't be in the program for six months prior to competing. Campbell believes that USADA have used McGregor as a vehicle to advance a false narrative and calls it "incredibly unethical". Campbell says that he believes the press release that USADA sent yesterday was rooted in "ego and fear" Campbell says that when he spoke to Tygart on Monday, he was extremely calm, whi Campbell says that Dana White always demands the best when it comes to all aspects of the UFC and that was top of mind when they went to develop the best possible anti-doping program going forward.le Tygart became unhinged. Calls Tygart an individual who's "dealing with a lot of sh*t" Campbell says that Dana White always demands the best when it comes to all aspects of the UFC and that was top of mind when they went to develop the best possible anti-doping program going forward Campbell says that they put up millions dollars for USADA to enhance the anti-doping technology. Novitzky says that they haven't seen "jack sh*t" when it comes to technological advances. He says they spent $1.8 million to make things easier on the athletes and nothing was done. Campbell says that he doesn't know where USADA will go from here when it comes to professional sports and it is clear why so many sports leagues have gone with Drug Free Sport International. Campbell urges media to reach out to the athletic commissions to ask about their experiences with USADA. Campbell says that he sat through hearings that he felt were unethical. Digital Jedi fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Oct 12, 2023 23:48
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mewse posted:anyone have non-X format https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/10...testing-partner
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Oct 12, 2023 23:51
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Poor Conor.
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AndyElusive posted:Poor Conor. It’s despicable what heroes like him and Jon Jones have had to endure.
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Oct 13, 2023 00:01
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usada "run like a dictatorship?" how else should they run? hand in glove with the ufc? they're supposed to be wholly separate, lol
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Oct 13, 2023 00:17
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Eat This Glob posted:usada "run like a dictatorship?" how else should they run? hand in glove with the ufc? they're supposed to be wholly separate, lol
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Oct 13, 2023 00:34
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USADA was always bad, actually. e] can't believe how USADA has disrespected this guy who did so much drugs his head doubled in size.
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Oct 13, 2023 01:34
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:USADA was always bad, actually. Now they're going with the people who test the NFL which is famously clean and has zero people doping.
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Oct 13, 2023 01:35
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:USADA was always bad, actually. This, sincerely.
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Oct 13, 2023 01:59
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hopefully the new testing company will react like a stealth game npc when jon jones is hiding under the ring at the gym and will just say 'hmm, musta been rats' before giving up and leaving
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Oct 13, 2023 02:16
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Digital Jedi posted:
Yeah.... 1.8M is getting you exactly nowhere in the medical app space.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:22
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quote:The relationship between USADA and UFC became untenable given the statements made by UFC leaders and others questioning USADA’s principled stance that McGregor not be allowed to fight without being in the testing pool for at least six months. One UFC commentator echoed this, recently declaring that USADA should not oversee the UFC program since we held firm to the six-month rule involving McGregor, and since we do not allow fighters without an approved medical basis to use performance-enhancing drugs like experimental, unapproved peptides or testosterone for healing or injuries simply to get back in the Octagon. was watching that Hunter/Novitzky press conference and wanted to look up the actualy statement and lmao that Joe Rogan's constant obsession with huge jacked steroid dudes and new medical treatments got into it.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:39
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Digital Jedi posted:He says that the UFC have learned that USADA is not the only player in the space and that they have the means to make the next program stronger and better. It’ll be like USADA, but on steroids.
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Oct 13, 2023 02:44
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kimbo305 posted:It’ll be like USADA, but on steroids. 
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Oct 13, 2023 02:45
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kimbo305 posted:It’ll be like USADA, but on steroids.
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kimbo305 posted:It’ll be like USADA, but on steroids.
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