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a neat cape posted:That thing Elway refused to do 5 years ago. Which is fun because I don't think Payton wants to be around for a rebuild and Russ won't make one easy
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This thread is a land of contrasts. LiquidFriend posted:More or less I think that's why Payton is making 0 changes. Make it painfully obvious to the owners it's time to rebuild. Chris James 2 posted:Which is fun because I don't think Payton wants to be around for a rebuild and Russ won't make one easy Also, “rebuild” is not a plan. Rebuild how? Into what? On what time horizon? More importantly, my point is that we need to hear it from one of Penner/Payton/Paton.
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waffle enthusiast posted:This thread is a land of contrasts. Payton needs to define it and figure out who fits and does not and get rid of the players that don't. Judging they are 1-4 with that one win being a barely against a trashcan, they have a lot of throwing away to come. 2023 has quickly turned into an evaluation year.
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Rebuild means you lower your discount rate. You stop making expensive trades for veterans (and coaches), stop drafting or trading multiple picks to fill this year's needs, and accept that you aren't one or two moves away. The Broncos have spent the last 7 years thinking they were on the verge of the playoffs and just needed to find a stopgap quarterback or fire the coach or plug a hole in the line. All the while the foundation crumbled.
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https://x.com/Jacobs71/status/1711347559476699545?s=20 - Rice and Ross should start getting snaps over MVS and Skyy - Dru Tranquill has been a really great add to the defense
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Are we rating team receivers. Keenan Allen: owns Mike Williams:  Quentin Johnston: gets open but Justin doesn't trust him yet Josh Palmer: fine I guess Darius Davis: does something really cool once a game and should get more schemed up touches Guyton: still dead but may be back? Simi fehoko: some guy off the cowboys ps idk Weird group, Keenan rules at least
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Chiefs offensive line had zero penalties it's a loving miracle Also whoever told me Donovan Smith was garbage was a liar
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It's weird how MVS and Skyy Moore are the Chiefs 'starting' WRs, from a snap count perspective. They have combined for 16 rec/239 yds/1 TD through 5 games. I am pretty sure Tyreek Hill has beaten that in a single game, as 1 guy, not 2. Jamaar Chase just did yesterday as well. Of course MVS and Moore aren't as talented as 2 of the best WRs in the NFL, but these are Mahomes top 2 WR options. Why the hell are they out there running so many routes, always completely locked down by a DB, and usually dropping the ball. Jonnu Smith, the Falcons lovely TE2, has more receiving yards than these 2 scrubs combined. Josh Downs in Indy, someone I hadnt even heard of until a few seconds ago, has more receiving yards than MVS and Skyy combined. Mike Williams who broke his leg 2 weeks ago has more yards than these 2.
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I've been a Skyy defender more than most and I'm starting to think he offers virtually nothing. His only catches seem to come when the entire play design is for him to get schemed open. The second we traded down instead of taking George Pickens I immediately thought that's going to come back and sting us and we're already there. Who cares if Pickens in an rear end in a top hat he is a #1 WR in the making
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Oct 9, 2023 16:13
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Zay Flowers has almost a 100 more receiving yards this season than MVS/Skyy combined. Mahomes is throwing to an aging TE and some of the worst starting wideouts in the recent NFL memory.
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he's tiny, not fast, and can't get separation at all. His only value at the moment is on jet sweeps, which frankly Mecole Hardman was soooo much better at. Mecole CEH Skyy all picked in the first 60 picks. All 3 are completely incapable of being NFL players. Mecole at least has elite speed, I can't think of anything good the other 2 do. Veach has a skill player eval problem.
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Watson is the only guy catching passes every game. That one jumping catch Ross had blew my mind because I can’t even remember a time when we had a receiver who could make those types of catches. Too bad he dropped another later. I really think we should just start Ross and Rice and give them the reps and see what they can do. All of the waffling between different receivers doesn’t allow anyone to shine.
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Thinking more about it, the Pats and the Giants might have even worse WRs. Rice is still an unknown and through 5 games he is doing pretty good for a rookie in a Reid offense, who usually are completely invisible. Very similar production to Tyreek in his first season so far
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More Ross and Rice and less Skyy and MVS.
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Not a shot either of them are taking snaps away from MVS. Watch the film and you will see why.
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kiimo posted:Who cares if Pickens in an rear end in a top hat he is a #1 WR in the making Missed this—what’d he do?
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If by what did he do to become an rear end in a top hat: fight teammates, talk big poo poo, throws tantrums. He was suspended twice in college and those issues seem to be persisting in the NFL If by what did he do to become a #1 WR catch big rear end touchdowns
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why does mitch holthus sound like he's broadcasting from the 1950s? https://twitter.com/ChiefsThrowback/status/1711826129391321297 e: actually this sounds more '70s. also early chiefsaholic sighting. Doctor Teeth fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Oct 11, 2023 |
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Also the same game that Charles fumbled away at the 1. And the last time the Broncos won the matchup.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Also the same game that Charles fumbled away at the 1. And the last time the Broncos won the matchup. The last good year
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He may end up having a long and productive career, but I feel like it's been pretty obvious since his rookie year that its just not going to work for him here in Denver.
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waffle enthusiast posted:In todays edition of “least surprising news ever” What's surprising is that there's interest. Maybe it's Carolina.
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solarjetman posted:What's surprising is that there's interest. Maybe it's Carolina. Maybe not after that Steve Smith thing tonight
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Not really any fresh ways to describe how much this sucks but…jeez. Just another year of this. Utterly trapped in the cellar
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Pron on VHS posted:Chargers vs Chiefs gonna be good as hell I'm bracing for another soul crushing 3 point loss lol
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solarjetman posted:What's surprising is that there's interest. Maybe it's Carolina. Jeudy fetches what a day 2-3 pick?
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a neat cape posted:Maybe not after that Steve Smith thing tonight Yeah that meeting was probably before Smith's little rant but honestly it isn't that surprising. He's had similar interactions on Twitter with some former Broncos. At this point I'd be happy with a 6-7 swap for him.
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Pron on VHS posted:Week 5: Week 6: Rashee Rice Justin Watson Kadarius Toney Justyn Ross MVS Skyy Moore MVS hasn't done anything in weeks. Didn't see enough from Skyy for him to budge from dead last. I want to move Toney down more for being a part of so many failed plays. A gap is emerging between Rice and the rest of the WRs, he leads them in targets, catches, yards, TDs and drops.
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The offense runs through Kelce and Pacheco, with Rice becoming a clear #2 target. The rest of the guys are out there running routes either incorrectly or completely locked down by a DB. Don’t have enough chemistry/time with Mahomes to beat zone and not enough talent to beat man.
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When I watch Rice play, it feels like they have truly found a legit replacement for Sammy Watkins. Finally. They really just need someone to step up and at least fill the role that JuJu was filling. Too bad it seems Toney is just meh.
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Toney was integral to the Super Bowl win. If he never produces again he will have been worth it. Gotta get him off the field for now though and find more big bodies for Pat.
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