This popped up in my FC discord:
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 00:06 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 21:11 |
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I finished the rest of it https://twitter.com/XuanyiRuna/status/1711964505784369240?s=20 E: Runa fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Oct 11, 2023 |
# ? Oct 11, 2023 05:44 |
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Runa posted:I finished the rest of it Lmao holy poo poo the burn
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 06:11 |
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Krile ready for that dps role
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 07:22 |
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Hot drat, this week's Margrat tier has this patch's requisite mention of The Gridanian Goldsmith! Did we ever find a mention of him in 6.4?
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 07:36 |
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Last thing I remember is the mindflayer at Zero's domain VVV EDIT: oh yeah, although I guess the reaper organization would need someone technical that wasn't necessarily a void contracted combatant. Quite the blow for your big brained engineer to go nutso and leave you with just the soldier types GloomMouse fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 11, 2023 |
# ? Oct 11, 2023 07:39 |
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I think the last mention was at Lapis Manalis, with the hint he might've been a Reaper.
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 10:11 |
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Runa posted:I finished the rest of it lol
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 17:01 |
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Krile you can't murder a child like that
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 17:38 |
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Cleretic posted:Hot drat, this week's Margrat tier has this patch's requisite mention of The Gridanian Goldsmith! wait what
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 22:28 |
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hexwren posted:wait what Margrat makes mention of a Gridanian goldsmith making realistic mammets as an example of monster miniatures to make. Also, unrelated to that but still Margrat https://twitter.com/Pandaryoshka/status/1712045693794443314?t=kRt61sErgeUOCx8f01dMHA&s=19
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 22:44 |
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Onean posted:Margrat makes mention of a Gridanian goldsmith making realistic mammets as an example of monster miniatures to make. right but why is this important
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:06 |
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hexwren posted:right but why is this important It's the goldsmith that made all the voidsent wind-up minions, and after only ever being mentioned in those descriptions he's cropped up in every 6.x patch except, apparently, 6.4. He also wrote one of the books in Gubal Normal.
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:13 |
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hexwren posted:right but why is this important The Gridanian Goldsmith started as a weird running gag through descriptions of the various wind-up demon lady minions, as a void cultist who was creating all these demon lady mammets and was eventually executed for Void Cultist Crimes, but the body disappeared. Later there are journals in the Great Gubal Library describing someone trying to summon a succubus (and accidentally getting a mind flayer instead, whom you later meet in Zero's void domain and who seems traumatized by the experience), which is hypothesized to be the same guy? Basically there are a lot of weird little bread crumbs about this creep getting up to crazy gross poo poo.
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:15 |
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hexwren posted:right but why is this important It's a recurring reference. A couple of loose things originally; something in Haukke Manor here, a book in... was it Gubal? The patchess appear to have someone involved who really liked that bit of lore and has been expanding it. Probably for japes rather than hinting at anything. Anyway, the guy was a skilled craftsman who became obsessed with seeking perfect beauty and wound up summoning demons.
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:16 |
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Lapis Manalis also has a journal that states the reaper's last master dollmaker left to search for "unparalleled beauty", and might also be the origin of the Goldsmith.
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:20 |
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Yeah my assumption with the goldsmith is that he's just a void related minor lore element they brought back for the void patches, rather than building to something. I wouldn't be surprised if we get another reference or two that wraps the story of his life in .55 or 7.0 now that lapis manalis has given his arc a starting point
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:43 |
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Is he the same one that forged the mammets for the reapers or was that someone else?
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# ? Oct 11, 2023 23:50 |
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Mordiceius posted:Is he the same one that forged the mammets for the reapers or was that someone else? Kinda implied he made the second boss, don't know about the rest.
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# ? Oct 12, 2023 00:07 |
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He's basically a recurring joke that grew more relevant because we've dealt with the void. That said I fear what the Wind-up Zero will eventually involve. Or the Wind-up Archfiend/Golbez.
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# ? Oct 12, 2023 00:45 |
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Wind-Up Golbez will be fine; they don't make that kind of joke about dudes.
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# ? Oct 12, 2023 00:48 |
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Wind-Up Golbez's description will note the creator explicitly did not put anything underneath the helmet and will muse if that is important or not.
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# ? Oct 12, 2023 01:10 |
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Wind-Up Golbez is already in game though! I got him from the Lunar Subterrane final chest! https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Wind-up_Golbez
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# ? Oct 12, 2023 10:39 |
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By a funny coincidence, I happened to do the Shadowkeeper questline with Unukalhai and Cyella in Shadowbringer after I finished the 6.5 Zero questline, and it's a bit weird that you didn't talk to them when visiting Ryne during your tour, even more so than Gaias absence
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# ? Oct 12, 2023 23:40 |
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McCloud posted:By a funny coincidence, I happened to do the Shadowkeeper questline with Unukalhai and Cyella in Shadowbringer after I finished the 6.5 Zero questline, and it's a bit weird that you didn't talk to them when visiting Ryne during your tour, even more so than Gaias absence There's been someone on the official forums really mad this didn't happen, but I'm honestly not convinced it's actually possible. To do this right you'd need to have an entirely optional cutscene for them--and to my knowledge that's already not even possible. But then you'd realistically want a lot of conditional text to the point of basically having a whole different script for Zero in the storyline afterwards, because her whole 6.5 journey is focused around figuring out that it's actually possible to pull the Thirteenth back from the brink, so you'd have to have the version we have where she's figuring that out from base principles, and a version where she knows that Cylva and Unukalhai are already doing it. ...and all of this still doesn't address the situation you're actually in, so they'd also need to ideally write a version of Cylva and Unukalhai's script that addresses the notion this might've happened in the reverse order, because for this context we're gonna need them to get up to speed anyway. I actually think it works better that it doesn't happen, because then it actually uses the disappointment around the fact that it didn't. Now it's a missed connection, nobody realized introducing them would've been a good idea until after it was too late to.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 01:18 |
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Cleretic posted:There's been someone on the official forums really mad this didn't happen, but I'm honestly not convinced it's actually possible. To do this right you'd need to have an entirely optional cutscene for them--and to my knowledge that's already not even possible. But then you'd realistically want a lot of conditional text to the point of basically having a whole different script for Zero in the storyline afterwards, because her whole 6.5 journey is focused around figuring out that it's actually possible to pull the Thirteenth back from the brink, so you'd have to have the version we have where she's figuring that out from base principles, and a version where she knows that Cylva and Unukalhai are already doing it. I have no idea who any of these characters are, except for Zero.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 02:54 |
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Sounds like you should fight the Warring Triad and learn the goddarn lore!!!
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:02 |
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Kheldarn posted:I have no idea who any of these characters are, except for Zero. Not knowing Cylva I get, but did you not do the Warring Triad quest
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:03 |
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i did it at launch and completely forgot that character's name anytime someone typed it for the next 5 years
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:11 |
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Unulnotgonnarememberthat
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:16 |
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For people who really don't know: Cylva gets a whole thing in the role quest capstone for Shadowbringers, so level a tank, healer, physical DPS and magical DPS.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:18 |
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Countblanc posted:i did it at launch and completely forgot that character's name anytime someone typed it for the next 5 years His name is Unukalhai. Unu-kal-hai. It is very easy to remember.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:20 |
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umu umu nuku nuku apu a'a
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:22 |
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Unuk the Untouchable.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 03:22 |
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if i dont hear it in a voiced cutscene i aint remember poo poo. simple as.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 04:03 |
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I can't spell the name or say it. But I can remember it and that's what's important.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 04:12 |
Countblanc posted:if i dont hear it in a voiced cutscene i aint remember poo poo. simple as. Well now you don't have an excuse, because Beq Lugg says it.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 04:26 |
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Cleretic posted:There's been someone on the official forums really mad this didn't happen, but I'm honestly not convinced it's actually possible. To do this right you'd need to have an entirely optional cutscene for them--and to my knowledge that's already not even possible. But then you'd realistically want a lot of conditional text to the point of basically having a whole different script for Zero in the storyline afterwards, because her whole 6.5 journey is focused around figuring out that it's actually possible to pull the Thirteenth back from the brink, so you'd have to have the version we have where she's figuring that out from base principles, and a version where she knows that Cylva and Unukalhai are already doing it. It feels like this is all easily solvable by making the Cylva quest a prerequisite for continuing the Zero quest, no? It's not like it would be without precedence, they did it with that Tataru quest. I had to go back and do the sky pirate questline with the void ark alliance quest. Having said that, it's not like it's the end of the world that they ignored it, just felt like a weird omission in retrospect. Will be pretty neat to see them follow up on the whole restoration of the 13th thing though
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 04:32 |
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McCloud posted:It feels like this is all easily solvable by making the Cylva quest a prerequisite for continuing the Zero quest, no? It's not like it would be without precedence, they did it with that Tataru quest. I had to go back and do the sky pirate questline with the void ark alliance quest. ...you realize that Zero's quest at the point we're talking about is the MSQ, right? I can tell you right now the choice that would be the absolute literal death knell for the entire game, and it's 'to get into the next expansion, every single player must have at least four jobs at level 80'.
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 04:35 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 21:11 |
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Cleretic posted:...you realize that Zero's quest at the point we're talking about is the MSQ, right? Ok yeah I see your point. See I just kind of assumed everyone would already have four lvl 80 jobs at this point
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# ? Oct 13, 2023 04:45 |