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keep punching joe posted:I know Jaeluni appreciates a good shared xls file gone feral story... this is the worst run of all the medical colleges, every year they have a humongous gently caress up
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keep punching joe posted:This sort of task should literally take minutes, or seconds if they actually took the time to I dunno use some VBA. Everyone's just supposed to "know excel" nowadays without doing any work. I've met ~specialists~ who didn't have the developer tab unhidden
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Ban the excel bullies and make everyone use libreoffice calc.
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One of our external clients uses libreoffice I think because everything the send us is in .odt format, which on one hand is interesting because major company using open source is weird, but on the other hand all the files they send look weird and broken.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Everyone's just supposed to "know excel" nowadays without doing any work. I've met ~specialists~ who didn't have the developer tab unhidden Right now I'm rewriting a bunch of python libraries in C# and powershell because my public service employer won't let me have python, but does have powershell.
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A large UK broadcaster uses openoffice for most of its engineering staff (i.e. not middle management and up). It's okay to be fair, it's not used all that often except for filling out some forms or reading documents. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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I wonder what GBNews uses to catalog their ebay knight templar helmet purchases.
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The reviews are in: Glinner - too much of a oval office for the TERFs https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1712807944692097207?t=dU7yZ3BNHaJRG6RpyslrGA&s=19
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Guavanaut posted:I wonder what GBNews uses to catalog their ebay knight templar helmet purchases. It's somewhat funny because said broadcaster (or so I hear, not GBNews) also spends a lot of money on various online/on-prem/in-house management, accounting and communication services, including a pretty comprehensive o365 subscription, just not the main office suite itself. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:The reviews are in: Glinner - too much of a oval office for the TERFs
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keep punching joe posted:One of our external clients uses libreoffice I think because everything the send us is in .odt format, which on one hand is interesting because major company using open source is weird, but on the other hand all the files they send look weird and broken. ODT is just the non-proprietary format - all official UK government files are also in the open formats, and due to EU antitrust Microsoft have had to offer you a choice the first time you open MS Office whether to keep using their formats or the open standards instead.
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Incidentally, what the gently caress, how is Science Direct the biggest UK media by revenue? quote:The UK 50: Britain’s biggest news media companies But sure, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the academic journal publishing market.
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Tesseraction posted:ODT is just the non-proprietary format - all official UK government files are also in the open formats, and due to EU antitrust Microsoft have had to offer you a choice the first time you open MS Office whether to keep using their formats or the open standards instead. I did not know that! Private Speech posted:A large UK broadcaster uses openoffice for most of its engineering staff (i.e. not middle management and up). They should switch to LibreOffice, OpenOffice stopped getting updates apart from the occasional security patch about a decade ago.
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It might be libreoffice, I wasn't sure which one of the two (shows how often it gets used). e: Yeah it's libreoffice. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Lexis is basically the go-to system for historical quotations, and because it has the US in its database it's basically the library of alexandria for anything that was in any newspaper or television network of note for the past like half century.
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LibreOffice is freeer because it has free in the name. In Spanish. A more free language.
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Writing a research paper and drinking tea out of a giant SCIENCE DIRECT mug
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Try not to post about I/p coz it's insanely depressing, but just came across this. https://youtu.be/u_ZMy2IHLd0?si=KRHs-EgGg2RP9R0K O'Brien is normally a bell end, but fair play to him here for doing the bare minimum in acknowledging Palestinians as humans. More than I've seen from a lot of our media
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Tesseraction posted:ODT is just the non-proprietary format - all official UK government files are also in the open formats, and due to EU antitrust Microsoft have had to offer you a choice the first time you open MS Office whether to keep using their formats or the open standards instead. We have to submit our gift aid claims to HMRC using odt format. I prepare them all in excel then at the very end save as odt.
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I tended to use the MS formats when the choice was originally offered, because I worried people wouldn't recognise the filenames. I'm glad there's a greater push to normalise the open formats.
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Guavanaut posted:I thought he was a monorchist, is that the same thing? Lol
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BalloonFish posted:I did two stints of data entry/management/presentation in the NHS in the early 2010s and this is all very familiar. Not only was my department using two clinical databases to hold patient and pathway info, but the databases couldn't talk to each other only (apparently) via Excel. The biggest frustration was the GP surgeries who wanted physical copies of the test results posted out. We spent so much loving time printing tiny A5 sheets and folding them into even smaller envelopes and packing them into pigeon holes, paying a courier to run them out to the surgeries (and pick up their blood tests), where they'd have to be opened and sorted by staff at the other end, before being re-entered into their system, a process that took so long the surgeries usually ended up phoning for the results anyway. Gigantic waste of everyone's time and energy that could have been completely negated by having the two systems talk to each other. Part of the problem was that each GP surgery had purchased their own records software suites and were damned if they were about to switch and retrain all their admin staff for someone else's benefit. Fair enough if the GP surgery sent the patient up with a paper form to have bloods taken, but even within the hospital we got a new system on the wards which in theory already had all the patients details, so they would vacuum tube the samples to us with a printout of the details which we would then re-enter into pathology's custom database which was run by one very obstinate guy called Doug. And again, the wards would then have to look up the results on this seperate system because it did not want to co-operate with CRS at all. I feel like this is one of those situations where a functional central government would be able to impose a standardised record structure and format to get the systems all talking to each other (like with the GP surgeries), but then I read posts like... keep punching joe posted:One of our external clients uses libreoffice I think because everything the send us is in .odt format, which on one hand is interesting because major company using open source is weird, but on the other hand all the files they send look weird and broken. The government aren't wrong that the NHS is badly run, it's just it's badly run because briefcase wankers keep trying to run it like a competing market economy instead of actually running it like one centralised government entity, because (a) that's all they can understand and (b) socialism is when the government does things, and so the more the government does the more socialism it's doing, and therefore the more bad it is.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Writing a research paper and drinking tea out of a giant SCIENCE DIRECT mug 
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TACD posted:Imagine the luxury of simply "writing" a research paper. They're all created with ✨LATEX✨ and you spend half your time debugging and compiling the bastards, not to mention losing hours researching how the gently caress you type a drat tilde Don't remind me! I wanted LaTex to put the page titles on my thesis pages the way I wanted them not the way it did, that took me days (as I had to have 11 copies printed and bound at £hundreds just to submit to the examiners and then once I had done the corrections or clarifications they asked for another how ever many hard-bound copies to sit in various libraries, I was fussy about how it looked!), and I think it was a tilde that did me in too trying to figure out how on earth to reproduce it (it might not have been tilde but it was a symbol of some sort - 20 years ago now so memory is a bit faded!) - I ended up emailing my supervisor to ask if he knew how who responded with a RTFM and I nearly burst out crying after DAYS of RTFM and still not getting it to work!) Eddie2: and this was before google was much of a thing - Excite was the best search engine for sciency stuff at the time. On the other hand.... trying to write an equation-dense thesis in Word doesn't bear thinking about. Ed: oh and the way people complain if you try to move an image a mm one way in Word upsetting other things - you ain't seen nothing until you try moving an image in LaTex! Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Printing 11 copies of your PhD thesis sounds insane. Also getting the non-final version bound is bizarre. I think in total I printed 3 bound copies, and only 2 of them were in colour
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My gf at uni apparently had to do one (1) essay throughout her entire maths degree and the whole thing even the wordy bits were in latex. The corpses of wordperfect and wordstar were still in their deaththrows why not just use them if you want to hurt yourself. It didn't last.
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I actually really liked LaTeX and found it much better than Word at dealing with images and stuff. then again I was and am a linux user so I have already developed a tolerance for Weird Nerd Tools
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Failed Imagineer posted:Printing 11 copies of your PhD thesis sounds insane. Also getting the non-final version bound is bizarre. We had to get 11 soft bound to submit do not ask me why - then I can't recall how many hard bound - there was main uni library, college library, department library, another for somewhere else, plus however many I wanted to give out as Xmas prezzies (haha). Some people were daft enough to get their submissions hard bound hoping the examiners would realize the expense and let them off corrections & clarifications but no...... soft bound a lot cheaper than hard bound. I never met anyone who didn't have to do some corrections - my examiners agreed that 2nd examiner who was London based (as was I) could ok the final version - he'd given me about half a page of A4 notes on things he wanted clarifying. He was struck dumb when he saw the several pages of corrections the other one had given me which was all finickity stuff (I'd dared to use bullet points in a few places and he asked that they be re-written as proper paragraphs was one of his biggies, and yes ok data is a plural not a singular and so I had to either change the verbs to match plural or change data to datum as appropriate - even though in real life everyone treats "data" as a singular. Thank goodness there were no calculation or theory errors! One person I know who pushed her guts out to get it in within the 3 years made a crashing huge ginormous mistake in a very large diagram on page 1. Her viva was 5 hours and she was totally shaken when she came out. Mine was 2.5 hrs.
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All of those facebook "94% of people can't get this terribly formatted maths problem correct" would be gone in an instant if everyone was taught LaTeX properly.
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Guavanaut posted:All of those facebook "94% of people can't get this terribly formatted maths problem correct" would be gone in an instant if everyone was taught LaTeX properly. Or if they were taught (and remembered) BODMAS or PEMDAS as the colonials call it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Or if they were taught (and remembered) BODMAS or PEMDAS as the colonials call it.
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Love that the news just does PowerPoint presentations on how great Keith is. Very on brand
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And a merry bodmas, one an' awl
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Wait... Those percentages dont add up to 100? Was option 4 'Goku!'
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Bobby Deluxe posted:And a merry bodmas, one an' awl Why it's Reverse Polish notation of course! The spirits! They did it all in one night! And now maths is backwards! Of course! 
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I had to do maths for the first time in like, twenty years this week. I hopefully managed it, or at least I got consistent answers, and now I will never do it again because we have computers to do it for us so I don't really know why there are sections of the exam assuming you would ever be doing this job in tyool 2023 without a tablet and a thing to do the calculations for you. Also some of it in reality I think you would just eyeball it?
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OwlFancier posted:I had to do maths for the first time in like, twenty years this week. What if there's a prolonged power cut and your tablet runs out of battery - aha - then what? I say, then what? I bet you don't even have a book of log tables or a slide rule lying around for those harder calculations in the event of a power cut. (Saying which I have no idea where my slide rules are these days, I may even have chucked them out! Don't even have a book of log tables anymore 
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