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and i say that with mexican being my favorite cuisine, and eating mexican from different restaurants at least once or twice per week
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nyc has a high ceiling for most cuisine, including mexican, but the median quality is way lower. you can’t just pick a random place and have a great meal like you can in california.
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Oct 13, 2023 18:03
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yeah and i think a lot of it is just a function of culture spread via immigrants. places closer to mexico have more cultural buy in and thus more demand. up here in boston the real latin bangers are the caribbean poo poo. we have tons of puerto ricans, domenicans, haitians, and trinidadians. so lots of bomb mofongo, roti, all kinds of mindblowingly great poo poo. we have some very ok mexican but the mexican community here is much tinier compared to the the west indian diaspora here
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Oct 13, 2023 18:30
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raminasi posted:nyc has a high ceiling for most cuisine, including mexican, but the median quality is way lower. you can’t just pick a random place and have a great meal like you can in california. adding to this, there's basically no correlation between price and quality i've eaten at expensive places in nyc that were at best mediocre and tiny hole-in-the-wall places with low prices that were fantastic, as well as vice versa
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Oct 13, 2023 18:32
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Internet Janitor posted:adding to this, there's basically no correlation between price and quality thats everywhere i think. ive had plenty of expensive but mediocre dinners in san francisco.
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the largest contributor to restaurant prices by far in the modern large city is the price of rent so expensive just means landlord hosed them, not anything about the food
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also new jersey unironically whips for a bunch of reasons. its hell for many other reasons like having to drive 45 minutes for good thai food, but its the platonic ideal of the suburbs in a way that ohio and indiana arent. im a full rear end city princess and i grew up in boston proper so i have a very different expectation of density, but provided you have a car, it’s actually an extremely clutch place if you’re a suburban type. its micro california where every part of the state is a different biome, and even your shittiest suburb town is at most a 2 hour drive from nyc, philly, or both. so if you have a car its basically inconsequential to get from deep suburb to the beaches to the woods to the city. its extremely not for me, but if i was an extremely normal person with normal suburban needs nj is honestly my second choice over ma. great public services and schools, pretty good regional transit, and absolutely god tier pierogies. mind you i moved there to live in a punk house in new brunswick, a big college town, sans car and while i certainly had to rely on other folks for transit i actually did kind of ok on a bicycle. but the nj problem is everybody always lives 45 minutes apart by car. luckily everybody would come to my house for the basement shows so getting the gang together wasnt awful. i definitely wouldnt live there without a car now but it was Mostly Doable*
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Internet Janitor posted:adding to this, there's basically no correlation between price and quality yeah this is absolutely true. there's a ton of great hole-in-the-wall places, a lot of mediocre ones, and the same applies for more expensive big places. it definitely varies, but i'd say at worst you'd get a mediocre meal. it's really difficult to find a place in nyc that truly has bad food Casual Encountess posted:also new jersey unironically whips for a bunch of reasons. hell yeah lol. i grew up pretty close to new brunswick and had a lot of friends that went to rutgers, it's a pretty decent place to live and due to its proximity to nyc the same applies for food there. it's just a bit more spread out, of course, but you can get an excellent meal. you gotta hunt for it though
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ahem: lol rutgers
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n.b. i didn't go to rutgers lol
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah this is absolutely true. there's a ton of great hole-in-the-wall places, a lot of mediocre ones, and the same applies for more expensive big places. it definitely varies, but i'd say at worst you'd get a mediocre meal. it's really difficult to find a place in nyc that truly has bad food also Captain Foo posted:ahem: lol rutgers
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:tony soprano voice:Captain Foo posted:rutgers
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buttgers
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yeah to the above its all about density and distribution compared to other stuff, with the probability of something being good being higher in certain areas nj : i dont live there anymore as i am deliberately aggressively anticar (why i moved to nyc) but if youre not its pretty great edit: and the public transit is pretty good but there is an expectation of having a car baked into a lot of stuff in terms of layout, even w density, unless you live in like jersey city or hoboken or newark Share Bear fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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post hole digger posted:buttgers
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah this is absolutely true. there's a ton of great hole-in-the-wall places, a lot of mediocre ones, and the same applies for more expensive big places. it definitely varies, but i'd say at worst you'd get a mediocre meal. it's really difficult to find a place in nyc that truly has bad food i went to a really awesome afghani restaurant in NB once, and was never able to find it again because i can't for the life of me figure out how any of the roads around there work
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah this is absolutely true. there's a ton of great hole-in-the-wall places, a lot of mediocre ones, and the same applies for more expensive big places. it definitely varies, but i'd say at worst you'd get a mediocre meal. it's really difficult to find a place in nyc that truly has bad food lmao i biked from new brunswick to edison (through metuchen) to work at the menlo park mall for a while and it was honestly fine. there is a fuckin sick rail trail from new brunswick to princeton thats a ton of fun and i wanna do again. but yeah id do nj before ever going anywhere near the midwest. i do not trust places without beaches and good seafood and i will absolutely die on that hill.
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not gonna lie you all are doing a great sell of NJ. i previously poo poo on it relentlessly but it sounds quite alright
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i stayed in jersey city on a business trip once and it was fine and everyone was very nice and pretty chill that's my nj experience thanks
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biking across far south jersey is great (around vineland) because it is practically empty and flat as hell. the biggest worry is getting chased by turkeys
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Jonny 290 posted:not gonna lie you all are doing a great sell of NJ. i previously poo poo on it relentlessly but it sounds quite alright its bad reputation is entirely undeserved
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until recently I had only been to new jersey on accident
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Casual Encountess posted:lmao i biked from new brunswick to edison (through metuchen) to work at the menlo park mall for a while and it was honestly fine. there is a fuckin sick rail trail from new brunswick to princeton thats a ton of fun and i wanna do again. yeah absolutely. it's kinda funny that in college i lived around where you do now and while it's far less walkable/bikeable it's really kinda similar. if NJ were somehow out of contention for me i'd do MA as my #2 choice in a heartbeat
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private beaches weird me the gently caress out. the first time i went down the shore i made my friends explain to me slowly in small words that you couldn’t just go walk on the beach without paying someone because i could not wrap my head around it.
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah absolutely. it's kinda funny that in college i lived around where you do now and while it's far less walkable/bikeable it's really kinda similar. if NJ were somehow out of contention for me i'd do MA as my #2 choice in a heartbeat edit: also are you describing NJ as bikeable? lol
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raminasi posted:private beaches weird me the gently caress out. the first time i went down the shore i made my friends explain to me slowly in small words that you couldn’t just go walk on the beach without paying someone because i could not wrap my head around it. i actually love this because yeah 10 bucks to get on the beach sucks but it goes directly to upkeep and maintenance and conservation so like. i defend it at least a little. obviously this impacts low income folks more but i think generally it is a great way to ensure public waterfronts are well maintained
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mystes posted:terrible taste in states smh no no encountess works (lives?) around beacon hill in mass, i lived there about 10 years ago and it's very walkable and bikeable. around new brunswick has a kinda similar vibe but you need a car but my point was more that both nj and mass have decent public transportation options to get to the denser city areas from the suburbs anyway. it doesn't make walkability irrelevant of course but both have better options than 99% of US states
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here you pay the ten bucks or whatever to park or get into certain larger like "park" (as in public park not parking) areas but like, you could just park your car somewhere else and walk over to the part of the beach with the "private" parking pretty easy it seems to do just fine maintaining the waterfront regardless 
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all the public beaches closest to boston are loving disgusting and not places id hang out at. however theres lots of beach towns along the coastline where they limit parking to some insanely low number like 50 for a 3 mile long beach and get extremely tow happy. nobody bothers you if you bike there, however, and for an extra half hour to hour (depending on direction) you can go from trashed and polluted urban beach to bullshit New England Fishing Village vibes pretty quickly and thats nice.
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I prefer free public beach access everywhere but I have no problem with towns charging for parking/changing rooms/showers/whatever as long as you don't have to pay to walk to the actual beachCasual Encountess posted:all the public beaches closest to boston are loving disgusting and not places id hang out at. I guess I'm also ok with having sections of beaches be state/national parks and charge for access as long as they aren't dumb about it, but having every tiny town control access to the tiny strip of beach that's public, with the rest being private, like in most of the northeast is really annoying mystes fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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mystes posted:I prefer free public beach access everywhere but I have no problem with towns charging for parking/changing rooms/showers/whatever as long as you don't have to pay to walk to the actual beach yeah here both the beach and the changing rooms / showers are completely free to access basically everywhere, it's just if you wanna park close to the beach you pay, and i think that's fine and seems to generate enough money that our beaches are all pretty nice and clean so
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ubiquitous cars are a blight on the world, but on the us in particular. and i say that with a deep love of the american, who (as largely incredibly personable) wasn't due that particular curse.
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i know it sounds weird but new jersey honestly has some excellent beaches
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I guess the connecticut supreme court ruled for public access to the beach everywhere which is really neat. I wish Massachusetts would do that too but I can't see it happeningBeeftweeter posted:i know it sounds weird but new jersey honestly has some excellent beaches Most of the nicer beaches are more south in NJ but going to Sandy Hook/Gateway National Recreation Area was also one of the nicer things when I was living in NJ mystes fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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doesn't california also have that and some billionaire tried to overturn it
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mystes posted:terrible taste in states smh also no, but if you live in a suburb and use the regional commuter transit to get into nyc/boston for work, very specific areas of each state open up for you and can be car free, but within very specific limitations. honestly the most common thing i do is walk to the grocery store and then uber back if its a big trip. basically anything else besides large item transport can be served by living in one of these transit corridors, but like i said theres big fat drawbacks to being carless in the burbs, like being unable to get to a neighboring town on public transit without going out then in, so ideally all of your needs are in a bikeable radius.
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haveblue posted:doesn't california also have that and some billionaire tried to overturn it not just overturn it, but illegally obstruct public beach entrances and hire rent-a-cops to stand in front of the beach entrances and lie to the public
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Beach access should absolutely be free everywhere. Parking and such around it can be whatever but the beach itself should be open for all.
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mystes posted:That I will not disagree about sandy hook is really very nice. when i was in grade/middle school we'd go on field trips "to the lighthouse" which really just ended up being a day at the beach with your friends, it loving owned
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when we went on field trips to a lighthouse it was a lot of stair climbing and learning about how hard it was to be a lighthouse keeper and how they had to carry gallons of kerosene all the way up the stairs multiple times a day
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