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Hey Vic vote just went up to 48.3% with 30% counted. ACT still yet might not stand alone as being not poo poo!
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Grim images out of the Yes campaign
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Oct 14, 2023 09:41
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Albo better at least do the voice through legislation so racists can cry about it being anti-democratic for the next decade or two.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:44
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Can't wait for the uptick in outwardly racist poo poo after No wins. Gonna be great.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:44
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Albo better at least do the voice through legislation so racists can cry about it being anti-democratic for the next decade or two. It's delusional to think that the Fed gov will ever override a referendum. We'll just have Voices at the state level which makes me wonder why we ever passed the 1967 referendum.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:45
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if yes holds steady at 45% nationally that's about 10% better than I expected
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Oct 14, 2023 09:48
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The 1999 referendum was something like 45-54 so thats why I pegged this as the same, given we had exactly the same partisan poo poo.
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Recoome posted:Grim images out of the Yes campaign I haven't been following that closely but is there a reason why the Yes campaign seem to be sorta poo poo a messaging. Like most of the people I talked to seem to have little idea what the vote was about, and seemed to more just be going off facebook rumor mill more than anything else. I had at least two co-workers come up to me and ask what the vote was about and what it meant constitutionally/legally. poo poo I was just doing a work placement so barely knew anyone, but as I was the only one vaguely political I got asked I guess  Like it seems there really was a lot of people out there confused about what was happening, and looking for any sort of stright forward answer.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:49
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Well, at least I had a couple months to get used to the idea of Yes failing
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Oct 14, 2023 09:49
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It technically wouldn't be overriding a referendum, which is exactly the sort of bullshit that would send people into a tizzy, which is why they should do it.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:49
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Can the federal government put through legislation officially declaring that the majority of aussies are wankers?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Albo better at least do the voice through legislation so racists can cry about it being anti-democratic for the next decade or two. Not a chance, it's dead AF for now.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:53
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gently caress this but glad most ppl here wanted yes to win
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Oct 14, 2023 09:54
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A really shameful day in our history, I really hope future generations don't judge us too much for what we have collectively done today.
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Oct 14, 2023 09:56
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congrats on the "officially racist country" status
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Oct 14, 2023 09:59
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Recoome posted:A really shameful day in our history, I really hope future generations don't judge us too much for what we have collectively done today. Nah, I hope they do, because that means at some future point the idea of it not being a no-brainer yes is absurd.
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Oct 14, 2023 10:00
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When they do I hope it's not in a loving dogshit country still called Australia. D2A.
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Oct 14, 2023 10:03
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I assume nothing good will come out of this result. I hope the progressive Nos are happy and ready to get to work.
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Oct 14, 2023 10:11
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I only managed to post my ballot off yesterday. So maybe when it finally arrives in Aus. then it, and it will make all the difference. Edit: Actually the worst part of NO winning is the cookers and conspiracy theorists won, and learned an easy lesson on how they can reproduce that victory. (misinformation campaigns). BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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Oct 14, 2023 10:20
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dr_rat posted:I haven't been following that closely but is there a reason why the Yes campaign seem to be sorta poo poo a messaging. Like most of the people I talked to seem to have little idea what the vote was about, and seemed to more just be going off facebook rumor mill more than anything else. The ultimate problem is that most people just don’t care about Indigenous Australians at the best of times. Yes was never going to pass because it would require people to not be racist and put (false) economic, social, or legal concerns over Indigenous Australians getting some representation. It’s impossible to fight those concerns because they’re inherently irrational. If it was going to pass, you would have to put the issue to a vote immediately and not give anyone time to campaign. Most people might give a very unenthusiastic Yes when posed the question but because they’re so unenthusiastic, it’s super easy to convince them to vote No because of some imagined issue. Renaming Moreland City Council to Merri-bek City Council was overwhelming supported by the residents who bothered to response to the survey request (iirc like 10% bothered to respond) but I can tell you the number of people who whinge about the financial cost of renaming everything Moreland to Merri-bek is not insignificant. There were already signs of this in the council’s report where something like 90% of written submissions were objections. jeffreyw fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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Oct 14, 2023 10:26
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One good bit was on the ABC coverage (of course) paraphrased : "And we turn now to the Sydney Electorate of Cook, Scott Morrison's old seat" 'Uh, his current seat Antony' "Oh yes, his current seat"
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Oct 14, 2023 10:32
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I remember the one issue I brought up with people that they actually seemed interested in was talking about how the voice could help with issues like when the miners illegally dynamite that cave with traditional significance and what not. As that's a pretty clear cut example of a big company intentionally being very poo poo and trying to get away with it that people did remember, would get a "oh yeah, if they're going to be helping with those sort of issues that sounds okay." people generally do hate big companies being crap. Even if they do keep voting in the libs who love help big companies be crap.
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Oct 14, 2023 10:36
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democracy does not work
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Referendums just suck because most people don’t understand enough about how government works.
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Oct 14, 2023 11:11
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I'm so glad albo died on this hill
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Eediot Jedi posted:I'm so glad albo died on this hill Yeah, gently caress him for listening to the Statement from the Heart. How very dare he.
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Oct 14, 2023 11:26
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Not even Victoria voted Yes, how wild
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Oct 14, 2023 11:29
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Yeah, looks like only place who ended up majority yes was ACT. Sorta feel bad all the times I talked poo poo about Canberra now.
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Oct 14, 2023 11:40
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https://twitter.com/chaser/status/1713119693509370061
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1000 Sweaty Rikers posted:congrats on the "officially racist country" status And congrats to the ex-qld cop, who walked out on the stolen generation apology, leading the way.
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Oct 14, 2023 11:46
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Dutton blowing the dog whistle of child sexual abuse and indigenous spending only to be followed by Jacinta saying that Australia isn’t racist is some poo poo.
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Oct 14, 2023 11:51
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Captain Theron posted:Yeah, gently caress him for listening to the Statement from the Heart. How very dare he. 
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million dollar mack posted:Dutton blowing the dog whistle of child sexual abuse and indigenous spending only to be followed by Jacinta saying that Australia isn’t racist is some poo poo. digging more coal out of the ground will bootstrap the indigenous communities into the stratosphere, much like the remains of indigenous cultural sites thanks to rio tinto and ziggy fuckface
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Oct 14, 2023 11:54
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why is dutton talking like he just won a federal election
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Captain Theron posted:Yeah, gently caress him for listening to the Statement from the Heart. How very dare he. He has shown no intention of acting on treaty or truth and composed the (failed) voice in the weakest possible form. gently caress him for not listening to it.
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Oct 14, 2023 11:57
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gently caress Albo, to be sure. But if this No leads to an upswing in Duttons popularity/electability, then truly God help us all.
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Oct 14, 2023 12:00
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Don't want to discount the obvious racism but the polling from NT is currently emphatically No, to the point I don't think you can wave it away as racism...
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hooman posted:He has shown no intention of acting on treaty or truth and composed the (failed) voice in the weakest possible form. Sure, go after him for that, but the Statement listed Voice first for a reason. And you can definitely blame him for running a poo poo campaign. But to blame him for giving this a go is nonsense. If we can't even get a weak Voice passed, there basically no chance of Truth or Treaty. ColtMcAsskick posted:Don't want to discount the obvious racism but the polling from NT is currently emphatically No, to the point I don't think you can wave it away as racism...
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ColtMcAsskick posted:Don't want to discount the obvious racism but the polling from NT is currently emphatically No, to the point I don't think you can wave it away as racism... I was wondering about that, whats the current demographic breakdown of the NT? And just checked the population and it about 245,000 and going by the abc results page and some quick maths looks like there's about 145,000 on the electoral role. Edit: although looking at the other states, that percentage of people unenrolled doesn't actually seem particular high. Seems there's just far more people generally unenrolled than I thought. dr_rat fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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ColtMcAsskick posted:Don't want to discount the obvious racism but the polling from NT is currently emphatically No, to the point I don't think you can wave it away as racism... the mobile booths for the remote communities haven't reported back yet & they're where about 40% of the nt indigenous population is.
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