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x-post from painting thread, continue to be very happy with "Raptor" parts on Legionary bodies
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 07:31 |
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# ? Jun 4, 2024 05:01 |
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Nazzadan posted:x-post from painting thread, continue to be very happy with "Raptor" parts on Legionary bodies Looks good. Very Night Lords. … I remember ages ago seeing someone did a kitbash of Kayvaan Shrike where they replaced his legs with the ones from the leaping Reiver Lieutenant. I can’t find the picture anyone. Anyone have a link?
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 10:05 |
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Stephenls posted:But I'll admit that if they'd put out a kit that looked less like a better version of this and more like this or this, I'd be happier. See, those examples strike me as the sort of thing Phobos marines should be. Say what you want about the tacticool goofiness, at least it's an aesthetic! If you give the infiltration squad gimmick to Phobos dudes, then what scouts have left are the fact that they're inexperienced bravos who haven't earned proper armor yet, and very likely to die before they do. The very first scout models, from a Space Hulk expansion, definitely did have that vibe (in part because they were a comedy hard mode for Space Hulk). IMHOTEP just feels lacking in personality. He doesn't have to be as over-the-top as Szeras, but if he's the guy with the giant claw, why isn't he doing something more interesting than a two-finger salute? Why is he doing a two-finger salute anyway? Why does he look exactly like the overlord on the cover of the codex (who looks more interesting than he does, lol)? If it's supposed to be a beckoning gesture, I don't think it lands, just like it didn't really land on the original mini. Oh well. Stilt Priest should probably be fine, I think. Admech players already have their giant walkers and cavalry and batwing flying guys, so I think most players have figured out how to haul them around at this point. Hopefully. The Bee posted:I kinda like that 10th hasn't had as much new model creep, especially on factions that are already broadly okay. We already have a ton of datasheets on a lot of the big ticket factions, so giving them newer sculpts for any lingering resin seems more worthwhile than going all in on brand new units. Man, there's so little resin left. A bunch of epic heroes, a lot of Eldar and Deldar, a handful of Orks, some Kroot and other Tau crap, Noise Marines kinda, a handful of non-codex Marines, and I wanna say like one non-unique demon character?
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 10:16 |
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AndyElusive posted:
I think I've seen them in GT winning lists and stuff. But aside from anything Warp Spiders are cool.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 10:17 |
Cease to Hope posted:See, those examples strike me as the sort of thing Phobos marines should be. Say what you want about the tacticool goofiness, at least it's an aesthetic! If you give the infiltration squad gimmick to Phobos dudes, then what scouts have left are the fact that they're inexperienced bravos who haven't earned proper armor yet, and very likely to die before they do. The very first scout models, from a Space Hulk expansion, definitely did have that vibe (in part because they were a comedy hard mode for Space Hulk). I like Imhotek. Maybe I'm weird, I don't know. I also like the Scouts, though I wish they looked more newbish.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 10:22 |
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Failson posted:Thank you! Not sure why I bought it. It was probably 10 years ago, and knowing me, the only rational was "cheap on ebay" Man I would paint the heck out of that silly sculpt- probably as a IF, though. I am heavily considering buying a Stiltman even though I don’t play AM, if I can find one cheap on ebay
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 11:33 |
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AndyElusive posted:Pre Ordered myself a Rogue Trader reprint but sad that I was too late to the party or anywhere close to getting a Dark Coil box. From what I understand, they're a meta staple because they're hilariously high moving while also being solid firepower (thanks to Devastating Torrent combo), so they can just jump into your backline and there's really not much you can do about it. So they can move 24" with really no downsides (except no charge) and then do actions and things.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 12:13 |
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Wargame Exclusives has some sick Warp Spiders
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 13:09 |
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Just realized I have the code from the Marine Codex to add it to the Warhammer app, is that worth doing or should I just use third party stuff? I'd maybe just go straight in there if the cool Vindicare was still around.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 13:16 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:Just realized I have the code from the Marine Codex to add it to the Warhammer app, is that worth doing or should I just use third party stuff? I'd maybe just go straight in there if the cool Vindicare was still around. GW’s product and pricing decisions make me lean toward sell the code and go 3rd party. -today- I am tempted to use the code for the convenience. It will keep the app fully functional (cept nids) and the app is great! But. Next year, I will not have purchased 8 more $60 books, and so the app will be so much less useful, and having used the code for an increasingly crippled app would feel silly?
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 13:42 |
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Honestly, I think the greatest problem and reason that Stilt guy looks super doofy is just that he has to fit on an infantry base, it really constrains how much you can do with the leg assembly. Like... you can't make the actual actuators where it would move bigger because then it would look top-heavy, but you can't do anything with the ankle bits because they still have to fit on the base. Can't really add another leg to make a tripod... weird design choice frankly.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 15:04 |
Cease to Hope posted:See, those examples strike me as the sort of thing Phobos marines should be. Say what you want about the tacticool goofiness, at least it's an aesthetic! If you give the infiltration squad gimmick to Phobos dudes, then what scouts have left are the fact that they're inexperienced bravos who haven't earned proper armor yet, and very likely to die before they do. The very first scout models, from a Space Hulk expansion, definitely did have that vibe (in part because they were a comedy hard mode for Space Hulk). That's kinda why I like the Black Templars method of having them mixed in with initiates in the Crusader squad. It always made more sense than sending the least experienced guys on the stealthier scouting missions. Plus since I'm modeling Celestial Lions it makes more sense to have mixed squads due to the whole almost dead chapter thing.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 15:37 |
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jadebullet posted:That's kinda why I like the Black Templars method of having them mixed in with initiates in the Crusader squad. It always made more sense than sending the least experienced guys on the stealthier scouting missions. Yeah, same. Scouts being the newbies makes no sense unless you’re talking about actual Youth Scouts. The whole idea of Space Marines is that they are power-armored transhuman super soldiers - and the Scouts aren’t any of those things. To my mind the Phobos marines are a better fit for the Space Marines and don’t infringe on the Imperial Guard aesthetic.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 15:52 |
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I think scouts look cringily lame while phobos are sleek and at least are trying to not look like if Mr. Bean was sent to Vietnam.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 15:58 |
At least the one thing with scouts is that it further culls the weak aspirants from the stronger ones so maybe they are only being told they are being used for scouting.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 16:05 |
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The scouts are middle-aged by human standards with dedicated veteran sergeants, genetic augmentations, and do nothing but train. And their first missions will be in support of the line marines.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 16:12 |
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Phobos/reivers would look way cooler without 50 lbs of batman gizmo bullshit strapped to them
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 16:21 |
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I always figured that Scouts being essentially Space Marines in training was, like a lot of things in 40k, part of the overall aesthetic of cartoonishly over the top military chicanery. Being a Space Marine trainee involves being a chaff unit whose job is to be a cheap distraction before getting shot off the board turn 2.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 16:30 |
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I think maybe scouts make more sense as like, space marine auxiliaries like the ultramar auxilia instead of as space marines in training
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 16:33 |
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OctaMurk posted:I think maybe scouts make more sense as like, space marine auxiliaries like the ultramar auxilia instead of as space marines in training It kind of makes sense for them to be initiates who failed to progress. People who were selected and inducted, but failed at one of the stages to being a full marine, like the implants didn't take properly but they didn't die. So they're still better than regular troops but less than marines and can't use all the cool marine armor. Rather than lumping them out they're organized into special groups to fight in support of line marines. This also makes things like having veterans and long-serving members make sense, because no one gets promoted out to Marine, you just serve as a scout until you die or hit retirement or something.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 16:59 |
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Cyouni posted:From what I understand, they're a meta staple because they're hilariously high moving while also being solid firepower (thanks to Devastating Torrent combo), so they can just jump into your backline and there's really not much you can do about it. So they can move 24" with really no downsides (except no charge) and then do actions and things. Warp Spiders should not be updated until this is no longer the case, purely because of how funny it is to see 90% of eldar infantry at tournaments be composed of 2nd edition models.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 17:00 |
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I like old scouts, but yeah, intermix them into groups like the Black Templars do. Phobos armor struck me as not an armor variant you give to newbs, but a specific purpose built armor variant like mk3 armor. Frankly it should have been a Raven Guard/Corax creation that filtered through to the rest of the legions, an armor variant that trades a bit of armor value for increased movement or something, which would definitely be a valuable bit of gear to both Alpha Legion and Night Lords for example. Heavy intercessor T = 5, M 6" Intercessor T = 4, M 6" Phobos T = 3, M 7"
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 17:38 |
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Phobos already get extra movement. They are all Infiltrators which is way more movement than the extra 5" in a game that you propose
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 18:08 |
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It occurs to me that this conversation is touching on what is the core part of a Marine Scout - whether they are light-armored recon, or that they are untested rookies. Having Neophytes in Black Templar Crusader squads, or Blood Claws led by a Grey Hunter in Space Wolf Packs, makes a lot of sense to me. They touch on the tradition of squires following their knights into battle, or Viking youths proving themselves in battle. There’s also more modern examples of Cadet Companies, which are in the game as Cadian Whiteshields.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 18:23 |
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Eej posted:Phobos already get extra movement. They are all Infiltrators which is way more movement than the extra 5" in a game that you propose What's weird is I loaded up wahapedia just to look at incursors since they're wearing phobos and it didn't show 10" movement, but Infiltrators do lol
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 18:41 |
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Ashcans posted:It kind of makes sense for them to be initiates who failed to progress. People who were selected and inducted, but failed at one of the stages to being a full marine, like the implants didn't take properly but they didn't die. So they're still better than regular troops but less than marines and can't use all the cool marine armor. Rather than lumping them out they're organized into special groups to fight in support of line marines. This also makes things like having veterans and long-serving members make sense, because no one gets promoted out to Marine, you just serve as a scout until you die or hit retirement or something. I like this idea. Also Scouts look way better than Phobos imo, who look like goofy Not Marines
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 18:42 |
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/15/sunday-preview-explore-the-ruins-of-jardlan/ There's another batch of Made to Order Marines coming up next weekend, Space Wolves and Inqusitor. Beyond that it's Necromunda time.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 18:51 |
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Professor Shark posted:I like this idea. Also Scouts look way better than Phobos imo, who look like goofy Not Marines Nuh-uh
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 19:10 |
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The Demilich posted:What's weird is I loaded up wahapedia just to look at incursors since they're wearing phobos and it didn't show 10" movement, but Infiltrators do lol Just checking the Index: Incursors get a 6" Scout move and Infiltrators have Infiltrate, both of which are better than +1" move!
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 19:11 |
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Yeah I was simply looking at movement and not including an rear end load of ancillary rules attached. There's a reason I don't like playing 40k lol
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 19:13 |
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The Demilich posted:Yeah I was simply looking at movement and not including an rear end load of ancillary rules attached. Idk, that's what 10th edition is for, putting as many rules on the same page as possible
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 19:53 |
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WFRPG 2E for lyfe
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 20:34 |
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Re: Warp Spiders being a current meta staple. That's awesome to read but also hilarious due to the age of the model. I remember having a squad of 2nd Edition spiders and even back then they felt OP. That GW still hasn't updated them despite them being one of the historically better Aspect Warriors is just baffling. They must still be moving resin models on the regular so they don't see a point to pull the trigger. I bet Swooping Hawks get updates before Spiders do. Re: Admech Stiltman. He's dope AF. Fight me. Sanguis Extremis.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 20:45 |
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coelomate posted:When I discovered CK War Dogs had stock issues, I thought it would be relatively isolated, but it looks like tones of kits are out of stock and heavily marked up on the secondary market, across multiple factions. Things have been like this for a couple years now, honestly. They've been having pretty serious issues keeping items in stock.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 21:20 |
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S.J. posted:Things have been like this for a couple years now, honestly. They've been having pretty serious issues keeping items in stock. It seems like the pandemic both increased demand and slowed down their ability to resupply places quickly. It's going to be an issue for GW eventually if it keeps going on at the rate it has
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 21:23 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:Nuh-uh Yeah-huh times infinity Also Stiltman should be able to kick the poo poo out of people. Agreed, though, that three legs might be better and a neat little homage to Mars in the War of the Worlds sense
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 21:25 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:It seems like the pandemic both increased demand and slowed down their ability to resupply places quickly. It's going to be an issue for GW eventually if it keeps going on at the rate it has That's certainly part of it. The other part is a shift in warehousing and some associated pains that go along with it, and just a general lack of speed in getting new production online to keep up with the increase in demand. Although there are certainly other things going on I'm not aware of.
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 21:27 |
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All that production of Leviathan makes me want to snag a box, but supply is obviously over abundant right now so I’m kind of hoping for a Black Friday special somewhere…
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 22:46 |
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i also want a tau army and a daemons army and a carrying case and an airbrush and necrons and a land raider and some OOP army boxes and a gaming table and some ruins and a rolling tray and some measuring aides and magnets and a titan and ah gently caress this is going to be an expensive habit, isn’t it? edit: also a baneblade
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 22:47 |
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coelomate posted:All that production of Leviathan makes me want to snag a box, but supply is obviously over abundant right now so I’m kind of hoping for a Black Friday special somewhere… Prices go down on amazon/FLGS after a few months when people try to clear stock, and then shoot up huge amounts after that. If you can wait and keep a look out, you’ll probably catch one for cheap coelomate posted:i also want a tau army and a daemons army and a carrying case and an airbrush and necrons and a land raider and some OOP army boxes and a gaming table and some ruins and a rolling tray and some measuring aides and magnets and a titan and ah gently caress this is going to be an expensive habit, isn’t it? One of us! One of us!
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 22:56 |