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malder posted:Yes, a man-made mountain built from coal mine waste. Which is probably toxic because it's coal mine waste. I hope the defenders have plenty of N95s.
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Oct 16, 2023 06:58
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Toxic Mental posted:I don't know poo poo about Poland's politics other than what I've heard in the past two years, what's the deal with this election Not a Poland expert by any means, but PiS are authoritarian, religious shitheads. Not sure how much of an actual impact it makes for Ukraine, they've made some noises about Ukraine help lately, but at the end of the day, they still hate Russia with the power of a thousand suns. Assuming the exit polls are broadly correct, it's good that they are out anyway.
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Oct 16, 2023 07:03
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malder posted:I just saw a (pro-Ukranian) report of Russian forces storming Terrikon, which is a fortified spoil tip near Avdiivka. Russians were rushing to what is literally a giant wall with hundreds of troops. According to the report, only one Russian was able to climb it, but he fell to his death in the end. Reporting from Ukraine is pretty even handed for a pro-Ukraine source and has sources on his Telegram. Denys Davdov in his latest showed the Oryx loss data for the last week and it's only backing the sheer scale of Russian losses. RU confirmed losses 173 vs Ukraine 37- thats just what has been confirmed, the real losses are a fair whack higher
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Oct 16, 2023 07:08
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mllaneza posted:Which is probably toxic because it's coal mine waste. I hope the defenders have plenty of N95s. Nah, the spoil is just dirt or overburden. It's the washing ponds where it gets fun.
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Oct 16, 2023 07:09
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We're entering day 600 of the three day SMO, which is proceeding exactly to plan. Also, no one ever claimed it would take three days, and if they did, it doesn't count, Westoid.
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Oct 16, 2023 07:09
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600 day anniversary of the 3 day special military operation. 
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Oct 16, 2023 07:11
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Reporting from Ukraine is pretty even handed for a pro-Ukraine source and has sources on his Telegram. I consider Reporting from Ukraine and Denys Davydov the most even handed pro-Ukrainian commentators on Youtube.
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Oct 16, 2023 07:14
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BrassRoots posted:Nah, the spoil is just dirt or overburden. It's the washing ponds where it gets fun. Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_CNhVFeQdk "It was not war, it was murder."
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Oct 16, 2023 08:14
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. Meanwhile Yamamoto is going THIS IS IT, THE DECISIVE BATTLE TO WIN THE WAR and Manstein is mumbling something about cauldrons. The belief that One Big Push is what is needed to win and the losses inflicted are worth it remains strong.
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Oct 16, 2023 08:23
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PiS are not entirely unlike what you'd get if the evangelical wing of the GOP had a majority alone. They've been meddling with the supreme court to stop them from interfering, have encouraged regions to declare themselves "LGBT-free", tried to completely ban abortions but only got close, tried to ban in-vitro fertilisation for some reason, have turned national media into pro-party propaganda and severely weakened protections for the independent press, they compare not accepting muslim immigrants to historical battles in Polish history - you get the idea. And of course, they're sceptical of the EU because it sets some limits on how far they can go. Basically, it's "the catholic church of Poland as a party" in the worst possible way, and if they win again they'll continue shaping the political system to their taste. Which is perhaps not super relevant to Ukraine, but they're utter shitheads and I really hope they lose.
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Oct 16, 2023 08:25
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. If we weren't supposed to assault it, why did they build it ? checkmate atheitits 
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Oct 16, 2023 08:28
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CeeJee posted:The belief that One Big Push is what is needed to win and the losses inflicted are worth it remains strong. Why though. The only thing they got out of Bakhmut was like 10 minutes of media footage. Are they really expecting to get more out of an even smaller, more insignificant town? Or is it some shmuck in command who has to present some progress or dig his own hole?
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Oct 16, 2023 08:28
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. Uhh excuse me, clearly you haven't read Sun Tzu's Art of War, where he clearly says Sun Tzu posted:If your enemy has built a massive heap of poo poo and waste that is tactically completely insignificant, you must expend all your forces in assaulting the massive poo poo heap instead of going around it. To do anything else would be like a poor waif crying in his underpants at the famous Chtcherbani Kolkhoz.
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Oct 16, 2023 08:29
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the gently caress were the russians even going to do if they climbed mount doom
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Oct 16, 2023 08:29
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appropriatemetaphor posted:the gently caress were the russians even going to do if they climbed mount doom They were going to steal the One Ring and give Putin magic powers, duh.
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Oct 16, 2023 08:31
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. Brilliant.
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Oct 16, 2023 08:34
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appropriatemetaphor posted:the gently caress were the russians even going to do if they climbed mount doom Cptn Ivan is climbing a mountain Why is he climbing a mountain To hug the mountain He wants to make love to the mountain
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Oct 16, 2023 08:35
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FMguru posted:We have slowed down the Ukrainian offensive enough to have amassed enough forces to launch a counterattack. One of the biggest advantages of launching an attack is that we get to choose the time and place of it, meaning that we can pick the most vulnerable part of the line to attack. Knowing all that, we are going to throw our entire reserves at...the one giant heavily fortified hill in the entire region that can fire on anything approaching it. It's what they least expect!
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Oct 16, 2023 08:37
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. Sorry, orders are orders, if monke says take the coal tip, we take the coal tip or else
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Oct 16, 2023 08:38
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Computer viking posted:PiS are not entirely unlike what you'd get if the evangelical wing of the GOP had a majority alone. They've been meddling with the supreme court to stop them from interfering, have encouraged regions to declare themselves "LGBT-free", tried to completely ban abortions but only got close, tried to ban in-vitro fertilisation for some reason, have turned national media into pro-party propaganda and severely weakened protections for the independent press, they compare not accepting muslim immigrants to historical battles in Polish history - you get the idea. And of course, they're sceptical of the EU because it sets some limits on how far they can go. It's actually extremely relevant to Ukraine long term. The EU needs structural reforms before it can accept new members, and Poland/Hungary have been using their veto to make that impossible.
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Oct 16, 2023 08:41
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zone posted:I consider Reporting from Ukraine and Denys Davydov the most even handed pro-Ukrainian commentators on Youtube. This guy? https://twitter.com/waflworld
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Oct 16, 2023 08:54
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zone posted:Sorry, orders are orders, if monke says take the coal tip, we take the coal tip or else Seems the order is take Donetsk Oblast any way possible. And speculation is even if the Russian election is rigged for Putin, he still wants *anything* to say the war is getting success. Andso you get this latest offensive having more losses in a few day than at any other time in the last 600 days
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Oct 16, 2023 08:55
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Yes that guy. He's quite even in his reporting and not afraid to report bad news or to be critical
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Oct 16, 2023 08:57
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Mikojan posted:Why though. The only thing they got out of Bakhmut was like 10 minutes of media footage. Are they really expecting to get more out of an even smaller, more insignificant town? I think it's the undisputable fact that Russia is bigger than Ukraine and they think this will mean they will eventually win. Ukraine plus its allies are also undisputably bigger then Russia but are not committed fully like Russia is and over time, elections will chip away at that support. Maybe Putin also believes the wars against Japan in 1904, Poland in the 1920's and Finland in 1939 could have been far more decisive victories if continued. And he will not accept anything less then everything. CeeJee fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Oct 16, 2023 |
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Oct 16, 2023 09:00
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. Luigi Cadorno going around saying 'seems like a perfectly sensible strategy, can't see where on Earth the Russians are going wrong!'
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Oct 16, 2023 09:09
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Samovar posted:Luigi Cadorno going around saying 'seems like a perfectly sensible strategy, can't see where on Earth the Russians are going wrong!' That latest video on Davydov's site is the epitome of Cadorno style generalship. Just a stunning level of WTF incompetence.
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Oct 16, 2023 09:27
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CeeJee posted:I think it's the undisputable fact that Russia is bigger than Ukraine and they think this will mean they will eventually win. And unfortunately I think this strategy of trickling in support slowly completely plays into that. If there were 1000 new tanks on a ship right now maybe they'd get the message that then need to gtfo while they can. Really frustrating. Any news on the F-16s? I haven't heard anything in months.
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Oct 16, 2023 09:28
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mobby_6kl posted:And unfortunately I think this strategy of trickling in support slowly completely plays into that. If there were 1000 new tanks on a ship right now maybe they'd get the message that then need to gtfo while they can. Really frustrating. Current word is that F-16s and what's needed to support them will be online by March-April of next year. It might be sooner rather than later with some luck though.
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Oct 16, 2023 09:45
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FMguru posted:We have slowed down the Ukrainian offensive enough to have amassed enough forces to launch a counterattack. One of the biggest advantages of launching an attack is that we get to choose the time and place of it, meaning that we can pick the most vulnerable part of the line to attack. Knowing all that, we are going to throw our entire reserves at...the one giant heavily fortified hill in the entire region that can fire on anything approaching it. I need to honor that somehow. I know, I'll watch the part in Gettysburg where Pickets Charge fails horribly!
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Oct 16, 2023 09:59
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god bless poland I have personal friends who are very happy, and Hungary lost their fuckbuddy.
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Oct 16, 2023 10:10
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He's Reporting from Ukraine plus quite a bit more detail and memes that personally I don't need, but despite appearances he seems to be on the mark.
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Oct 16, 2023 10:27
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mllaneza posted:Reporting From Ukraine has a lot of imagery on this assault. My summary? WHAT THE gently caress RUSSIA? WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress ARE YOU DOING? General Haig is looking up from Hell shaking his head. GO THE gently caress AROUND. DO NOT ASSAULT THAT. The Charge of the Shite Brigade
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Oct 16, 2023 11:57
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weg posted:The Charge of the Shite Brigade
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Oct 16, 2023 12:04
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It was all a ruse. While Ukrainian soldiers were defending Fort Pittsburgh, the remainder of the Russian forces were flanking them. They also died.
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Oct 16, 2023 12:22
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weg posted:The Charge of the Shite Brigade I do keep obsessively google-earthing that valley outside Sevastopol and wondering whether history is such a gently caress that it will happen again
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Oct 16, 2023 12:32
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weg posted:The Charge of the Shite Brigade 
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Oct 16, 2023 12:36
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SRQ posted:god bless poland Hungary lost Poland but gained Slovakia so yeah, not that great.
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Oct 16, 2023 12:40
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The charge of the light brigade happened because the two involved commanders were brothers-in-law or some such relation who were not on speaking terms due to petty family bullshit, so when obviously flawed and ambiguous orders about attacking artillery positions were relayed between them, the guy in charge of cavalry decided to order a suicide assault on what he assumed was the objective while throwing his arms in the air and passively aggressively saying "ok, I'm sure you know what you are doing, who am I to question your brilliance" rather than ask for clarification. The Russians have already found 100 ways to make that scenario look like a display of tactical genius in comparison.
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Oct 16, 2023 12:49
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weg posted:The Charge of the Shite Brigade Mods, plz.
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Gervasius posted:Hungary lost Poland but gained Slovakia so yeah, not that great. It remains to be seen how much Slovak policies will change - Fico depends on a coalition government and HLAS is/was pro-European despite being socially conservative. Both parties have been suspended from The Party of European Socialists though, for joining a coalition with the far-right Slovak National Party - so I'm still very unsure on how the chips will fall
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