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AceOfFlames posted:You'd think they'd wise up after the 4th or 5th supervillain lair. Or at least try to capitalize on it. Would the supervillain repair the boarded up ATM? I live by an abandoned bank IRL, so this is important to me.
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I would love to see a modern day reinterpretation of Fu Manchu as a protagonist, or at least a good guy, working to oppose Western imperialism and battling thinly veiled colonist-heroes trying to steal cultural treasures and establish the opium trade. I know it'd be a CCP propaganda piece like nothing else on Earth, but still.
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Oct 16, 2023 23:22
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I mean a modern imagining is basically what they did in Shang Chi didn't they?
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Lemniscate Blue posted:I would love to see a modern day reinterpretation of Fu Manchu as a protagonist, or at least a good guy, working to oppose Western imperialism and battling thinly veiled colonist-heroes trying to steal cultural treasures and establish the opium trade. Maybe this is what you were referencing but battling western imperialism actually pretty much was Fu Manchu's whole deal. It's just that by early 20th century British standards this was villainous.
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Oct 17, 2023 00:39
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The Moon Monster posted:Maybe this is what you were referencing but battling western imperialism actually pretty much was Fu Manchu's whole deal. It's just that by early 20th century British standards this was villainous. Yeah - I mean have the same general goal but framed as a good thing and with examples relevant to modern issues. Like, have some pith-helmeted mustached dickhead from the British Museum be a recurring villain.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Yeah - I mean have the same general goal but framed as a good thing and with examples relevant to modern issues. Like, have some pith-helmeted mustached dickhead from the British Museum be a recurring villain. I could see a story about Fu Manchu residing in Hong Kong, opposing first the British and then the CCP.
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AceOfFlames posted:You'd think they'd wise up after the 4th or 5th supervillain lair. Or at least try to capitalize on it. Eh, the money-themed supervillain would use defunct currency making the whole plan pointless. Or just be like the one villain from Ghost in the Shell: SAC that had basically a machinegun or shotgun that fired quarters. DC already has money-themed supervillains, they're called CEOs. Lex Luthor, Derek Powers, those "friends" of Batman that were buying land on the cheap after a supervillain devastated it and then flipping it after the city repaired the damages...
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Oct 17, 2023 12:19
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Now I'm reminded of Frugal Lucre, the supervillain from Kim Possible who prides himself on providing full-price menace on a cut-price budget.
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I've mentioned it on the forums before but I enjoyed the Condiment King in Lego DC Super Villains who is furious that a critic complained about his restaurant, saying that the workers don't get tips there. "FOOLS! The Condiment King pays his workers a LIVING WAGE!"
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Condiment King is the animated series’ most culturally significant and best contribution to the Batman franchise. Him and Mad Stan.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Note also that they lost the rights to the Fu Manchu character in 1983 and danced around the issue for nearly three decades by using aliases or simply referring to him as Shang-Chi's father until they renamed him Zheng-Zu in 2010. I suspect that if they hadn't lost the rights they wouldn't have changed his name. Probably, they still use their OC yellow peril character The Mandarin.
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Oct 17, 2023 14:54
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Probably, they still use their OC yellow peril character The Mandarin. This guy? 
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verbal enema posted:Wonder if this is a reference to the terrible terrible Fu Man Chu movie series Makes sense, the original source material sucked, too. Almost every time I tried to read it I was like 'Wait, I get it - this is a satire, this is what racist are SUPPOSED to think, the author can't seriously have written this seriously!' but no, he did.
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And they literally only stopped making Fu Manchu books because the US government stepped in during WW2 and told them to knock it off because China is their ally now. Mostly my favourite take is that he was the Spy in the original mercenary team of Team Fortress 2.
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AceOfFlames posted:You'd think they'd wise up after the 4th or 5th supervillain lair. Or at least try to capitalize on it.
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Alhazred posted:There already is a money themed super villain https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Probably, they still use their OC yellow peril character The Mandarin. It was such a clever move in Iron Man 3 to have the Mandarin be a big spooky foreign bad guy (being played by a biracial British actor as a distraction from the actual bad guy). Also said actor is Ben "can play any race" Kingsley.
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Rochallor posted:It was such a clever move in Iron Man 3 to have the Mandarin be a big spooky foreign bad guy (being played by a biracial British actor as a distraction from the actual bad guy). Also said actor is Ben "can play any race" Kingsley. Fuckin' Trevor. He also is in Shang-Chi.
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He's delightful in Shang Chi though, really plays to his strengths.
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Apparently that goes off a short where it turns out there's a REAL Mandarin on top of that. Who may or may not be amused by Slattery's performance.
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mind the walrus posted:Ftfy, although the Nazi poo poo is also super loving uncool. What’s wrong with Shark? The original is making fun of a super mega corp. And it still makes fun of every Disney movie made since. Onions have layers. Comstar has a new favorite as of 10:28 on Oct 21, 2023 |
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Comstar posted:What’s wrong with Shark? The original is making fun of a super mega corp. Probably because they overplayed and overpromoted it to hell and back during the 00s, that could burn out even the strongest of media veterans back in the day 
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Yeah I have a slightly irrational hatred of Shrek. It's emphatically fine if you really make me critique it devoid of all context, but I've been on the 'Shrek is trash' train for a long time because it always just seemed so middling with its comedy and animation and voice acting, yes I have heard Mike Myers' hilarious Scottish accent. They have some decent jokes but you kind of have to when there are 100 gags a minutes and a lot of them are stinkers. But then I worked with this guy who absolutely adored Shrek. Like, he was aware of the memey internet perception of Shrek, but he genuinely loved the whole series and found it to be a heartwarming and powerful tale of acceptance. He also happened to be very obese with bad skin and hair and was always calling himself ugly like it was an objective fact to the protest of all the coworkers. And I'll be damned if hearing him talk about how Shrek champions inner beauty and individuality and finding people who love you for who you are didn't actually make me rethink the value of those movies. He was seriously one of the most wholesome people I've ever known and he just wanted to share the gospel of Shrek.
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I still think the first shrek is a good movie that still holds up, and the issue is with the later entries. The main thing that aged poorly is the bullet time joke, which was already overdone at the time of the release.
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i find Shrek's art direction repulsive
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A Haunted Pug posted:i find Shrek's art direction repulsive Isn't that kinda the meta point of the 1st movie?
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that would be a bit like those games that poke fun at sewer levels but have one
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Shrek is a lot like Applebees or whatever US microwave food chain you like least-- there's nothing wrong with you if that's your low-rent treat and there's nothing wrong with you if it isn't, and if you happened to make some great memories at one that's sweet and no one should take that from you... ... but once it's treated as something more, whether it's being championed as very good food or a great hangout spot even "ironically," then that tells me you haven't been eating right and something's wrong. And the rationales for why range from the nakedly pathetic to the creepily delusional.
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Where else are you sitting down to get liquor at the mall? God, can you imagine the regulars at the bar in the mall tgi Fridays?
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I AM GRANDO posted:God, can you imagine the regulars at the bar in the mall tgi Fridays? I hear that's how you meet Allan Iverson.
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mind the walrus posted:Shrek is a lot like Applebees or whatever US microwave food chain you like least-- there's nothing wrong with you if that's your low-rent treat and there's nothing wrong with you if it isn't, and if you happened to make some great memories at one that's sweet and no one should take that from you... I know a guy who considers Shrek his favorite movie. I also know for a fact that his favorite restaurant is the one physically closest to his house.
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When the first Shrek movie came out it angled itself as an edgier kids' movie, one that openly mocked the kind of mawkish sentimentality Disney was known for at the time. Of course its enormous success necessitated sequels, toys, clothing, video games, musicals, and thus does capitalism always subsume all critique unto itself.
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Shrek came out on VHS when I was 3 and for the next 2 years it was the one tape I had my grandparents put on all day every day. We got the Shrek Christmas album and we had Shrek 3D on DVD which might be lost media now idk
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Oct 21, 2023 23:32
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Don't be silly Shrek came out in 2001 and that was only like 10 years ago at most.
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As a westerner outside the US, Shrek was the defining moment for this kid in 2001. Nothing else happened that year.
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The worst part about Shrek is that every other animated film aimed at children tried to emulate its cynicism for decades after. Even Disney themselves tried being shrek-ish for a good long while.
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I saw Shrek when I was 15, and it was the first movie that made me think that I might be getting too old for children's movies.
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i always thought ice age was better
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well why not posted:i always thought ice age was better Beg to loudly disagree. That rat/squirrel/acorn loving thing shits me to no end. And I find the saccharine "we are all family" bullshit message stomach turning. Also John Leguizamo's "Haha aren't I so wacky(tm)" character is grating from the first second and gets worse the more he is prominently featured. And I don't like the way they had to keep coming up with new ways to keep it all prehistoric, yet still moving forward in time. But that is just my opinion. People can like whatever lovely cartoons they like.
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