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Ytlaya posted:New video about Junpei His original VA was Vic Mignogna who has spent the past seven or so years involved in numerous lawsuits regarding him being a sexpest and a general piece of poo poo.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:04 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 12:42 |
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Zeno Robinson is cool, cuz he was Hunter on Owl House and Haruki from the Ultraman Z dub and Fogado from the latest Fire Emblem.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:06 |
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Eh, I like Junpei's new voice. Ken's new voice seems better from that short clip too
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:06 |
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Zeno Robinson is cool, I'll get used to this change pretty quick. Akihiko, Yukari, and Ken might need more time to adjust. Nothing against Alejandro Saab, but if Kaiji Tang hadn't already been Iwai I bet he could have been an excellent Akihiko.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:07 |
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Honestly Junpei's new actor sounds better than his old one to me. He's clearly got more range.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:08 |
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Ytlaya posted:New video about Junpei Yes, also a super-Christian creep. He makes every character sound like a brat. So yes, Junpei having a new voice actor at least gives people the chance to like the character this time around.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:55 |
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It's funny how in the FemC route in P3P, you can do all of Junpei's social links where he becomes super chill with you BEFORE the point in the plot where he gets super jealous that you're the leader, and it feels so disjointed.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 03:58 |
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Clarste posted:It's funny how in the FemC route in P3P, you can do all of Junpei's social links where he becomes super chill with you BEFORE the point in the plot where he gets super jealous that you're the leader, and it feels so disjointed. All part of the problem when you gate character growth behind SL advancement that you can complete as fast as you can. Kinda like how Ryuji's maturity as seen in his confidant events gets tossed by the wayside when he has to act like a moron again to advance the plot.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 04:09 |
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Clarste posted:It's funny how in the FemC route in P3P, you can do all of Junpei's social links where he becomes super chill with you BEFORE the point in the plot where he gets super jealous that you're the leader, and it feels so disjointed. Isn't his jealousy only really prominent in like the first couple Full Moon missions? After that it becomes more of an issue with validation than anything. You can't really get Junpei to SL10 before he gets really grumpy about you being the leader again.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 05:08 |
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not having your party members be social links was better honestly
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 05:22 |
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There's always been some. Yukari, Mitsuru and Fuuka were always party members with S Links.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 05:30 |
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cock hero flux posted:not having your party members be social links was better honestly I mean they showed off how to do it with P5R. You can do the initial stuff but you have to wait for a big plot point to unlock the rest.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 05:35 |
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Party members being s. links is bad because it's difficult/impossible to fully equate main story characterization with all possible options for how far the player is on their s.link so they just seem incredibly disparate. On the other hand, party members not being s. links is also bad because when the entire concept of your game is gaining power via friendship and other bonds you would think the people you fight alongside would be obvious choices. Also as annoying as Junpei is he is not Kenji.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 06:24 |
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I like these new events they're showing in the trailer, though. The watermelon scene makes him come across as more goofy and charming which is nice.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 06:47 |
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Hellioning posted:Party members being s. links is bad because it's difficult/impossible to fully equate main story characterization with all possible options for how far the player is on their s.link so they just seem incredibly disparate. you can always just make them automatic story s links, which 3 sort of did already since there was a SEES link, although that does unfortunately make it so that the related arcana gets lovely bonuses for most of the game
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 07:16 |
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I'm gonna say that as much as I prefer 4 and 5 to 3 as whole games, 3 did have a good idea in that the party Links that the game had were unrelated to the character's main arc and instead were basically side stories with the character, and I think they should go back to having plot-relevant characters get complete character arcs in the main plot and having Social Links/Confidants be about something else. Fuckin burn everything else 3 did with its Links though, a very generous appraisal might put half of the Links in the game as tolerable. Commander Keene fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Oct 17, 2023 |
# ? Oct 17, 2023 07:24 |
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honestly at least i remember most of the 3 s. links. a lot of the 4 and 5 ones blend together
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 07:28 |
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The trailer starts with the MC giving Junpei flowers? The yaoification is starting. Nice they kept Junpei's long neck too
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:01 |
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Commander Keene posted:I'm gonna say that as much as I prefer 4 and 5 to 3 as whole games, 3 did have a good idea in that the party Links that the game had were unrelated to the character's main arc and instead were basically side stories with the character, and I think they should go back to having plot-relevant characters get complete character arcs in the main plot and having Social Links/Confidants be about something else. Let's see, let's use the male's side, to be harsher: Kenji: trash Fuuka: tolerable, but unfortunate forced harem Mitsuru: burger tier, but unfortunate forced harem Hidetoshi: tolerable, I guess Old Couple: good, gives free bread Yukari: good enough, but unfortunate forced harem Kaz: fine Chihiro: polarizing, plus unfortunate forced harem Yuko: best girl Glasses guy: forgettable, but tolerable Maya: 2006 leetspeak tier (tolerable?) Maiko: tolerable plus one of the links you can actually do during exam/summer Bebe: bebe tier (good?) Tanaka: polarizing, but at least it's auto-rank up Mutatsu: tolerable Nozomi: get out Mamoru: fine Akinari: best Aigis: fine, I guess I guess that's barely a passing rate if you nix the unfortunate forced harem ones. The worst ones really are Kenji and Nozomi. Possibly Tanaka but at least it's easy.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:14 |
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I liked the Kenji link when I was 16 years old and played p3 for the first time.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:25 |
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Also yeah everything else aside I can generally remember every p3 link. I cannot say the same for 4 and 5 lol
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:26 |
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the tanaka s. link owns
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:26 |
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Tanaka's slink is pretty wild. Just him ranting at you in between blackmail and threats while he slowly discovers compassion or generosity or whatever.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:31 |
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there's a reason he's one of the non-Igor characters who returns in both P4 and 5, if only to sell stuff!
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:33 |
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I still wanna know what happened between 4 and 5 to send him into hiding on the dark web after being on top of the world as the Billy Mays of Japan.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:36 |
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Gonna do the other two games, because why not. P4: Yosuke: good Yukiko: wobbly ending, but... alright, if kinda boring Margaret: not even a real link Kanji: best Dojima: great Rise: ehhh Chie: cop tier, otherwise just kinda there Nanako: great Sports: Daisuke good, Kou's okay (but I always pick soccer anyway) Naoto: good Fox: fox tier Naoki: lowkey great Hisano: great Eri: pretty forgettable honestly Sayako: restraining order Shu: pretty bleh Ai: great Arts: Ayane's fine, Yumi... not great Marie: good rank 9, but all the forced extra hangouts drag it down Adachi: eh, it exists Better passing rate than P3, at least? Some good highs but I don't think any of them are Akinari tier (but I do think Naoki is underrated). P5: Makoto: bad Haru: okay, with a crushing rejection scene Yusuke: average, only good for jesus pose Sojiro: great Ann: bad, but not Makoto bad Ryuji: good Akechi: it's... okay? I don't care much about Adachi really Twins: Margaret but a little better Chihaya: it exists, probably below average Futaba: great (don't romance your surrogate sister you weirdos) Iwai: great Takemi: alright Becky: good and bad at the same time?? Ohya: bad Mishima: surprisingly not bad, character aside Hifumi: good Yoshida: good Yoshizawa: it's fine, for a semi-forced link Maruki: good Verdict: not bad overall, but some real stinkers among the party links and outside of Sojiro/Futaba, nothing outstanding
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 09:52 |
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People have poo poo on P4 Temperance for as long as I've been part of the fandom (and probably before I was around to pay attention) but I like it. It's not the greatest but it's very wholesome and down-to-earth. I think it works for the same reason Dojima works so well. P4 is really good at telling stories about struggling single parents (basically single parents for Eri) trying to fix things with their child.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 10:03 |
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Yeah I don't actually dislike Eri (same reason I don't dislike Maiko), it's one of those links that actually gets better as you get older. But I won't deny that it's ultimately one of the ones that's easiest to ignore because there are more interesting links to do on any given day. Even on weeks when your school friends are all busy, you can do something like Marie instead.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 10:09 |
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P4 tower > P5 tower Love that little nerd
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 10:09 |
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Oh I just realized I completely forgot GET SMOKED kid in my writeups. Uhh he's okay I guess.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 10:11 |
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Naoki and Hisano are the best ones
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 10:22 |
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Death would be the best SL across the three games for me if P3's wasn't automatic. As it stands, Hierophant takes it overall among player-driven SLs.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 11:09 |
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I don't think there's inherently any issue with having party members be social links. You just gotta write them to be stories that can advance on their own track regardless of the character's headspace in the main plot, which most of them do. Half the side stories are just also kind of boring and unimportant, but there's no reason they have to be. People keep bringing up Ryuji as the biggest issue, and I gotta say, I don't think the contrast between his confidant and his plot character is the problem. His confidant is the story of how he has outgrown the track team and found his own place in the world, but he still wants to do right by them and help them stand up for themselves, which is told competently, while his struggle in the main plot is that he wants to be recognized for his work as a Phantom Thief, despite the fact that anonymity is core to their whole M.O. There is a contradiction there, but a very human one that doesn't make him an inconsistent character. The issue is that he is also the designated horny teenager and idiot loudmouth when the plot demands one; but that's an issue with the main plot that is still there if you discount his confidant, since it also gives him a fair share of moments where he's allowed to be mature and emotionally intelligent.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 11:53 |
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At the end of P5 Ryuji moves away from Tokyo because there aren't any physical therapists there.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:54 |
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But the Yakuza games told me that Japan is just filled with physical therapy clinics
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:00 |
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Saagonsa posted:I liked the Kenji link when I was 16 years old and played p3 for the first time. This. Also MFs complain that the s link is about helping your classmate try to get with a teacher yet love blackmailing your teacher into a relationship in P5...Hypocrites much??
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:08 |
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Ibram Gaunt posted:This. If that was the only choice then sure. P5 in general has the option of not doing harem poo poo and the better choice is essentially creating a temporary refuge for your teacher and with some phantom thief help allow her to once again be the teacher she wanted to be.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:22 |
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I really don't get preferring 3's Social Links. They are underwritten to the extreme. Like half the ranks consist of exactly one minor interaction or piece of information being learned, followed by "Your relationship is stronger now!" Say what you will about the other games' Social Links, but they generally actually sit with the characters for more than a few lines.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:30 |
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And while we're on the subject of teachers, the Hermit SL in 3 is waaaaaaaay worse than you probably remember. Toriumi explicitly states her intent to groom you.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:36 |
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Neeksy posted:I like these new events they're showing in the trailer, though. The watermelon scene makes him come across as more goofy and charming which is nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Kasz1-xtw
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