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Yes, with the exception of utility/emergency vehicles, which can still use them.
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If performance looks interesting for older CPUs, I will break out my insane collection of older CPUs and make some charts. Supposedly the game is much more thread aware than CS1, so might be some interesting results.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 20:06 |
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MikeJF posted:The one big thing missing is bikes, though. That's pretty blatantly probably going to be the first expansion. They have already announced the first expansion is Bridges & Ports, it's on the description of the ultimate edition.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 22:00 |
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Some sort of transportation DLC including bikes seems guaranteed. Parks DLC. Something to flesh out the industries, every previewer's consensus seems to be the idea is good but the implementation sucks. Campuses and airports if those were popular, who knows what the sales were like. I also expect packs that add a building theme and a bunch of assets for it. Japan for sure, tons of Japanese players. Korea maybe since they did one before. Anywhere that had a sizeable number of assets in the workshop seems ripe for it, I bet they've combed through that to see what people are interested in.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 22:06 |
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Probably an eco/green pack and a sci-fi/futuristic pack.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 22:28 |
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My first city is gonna be so so bad. I really look forward to it
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 00:17 |
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Digital Jedi posted:My first city is gonna be so so bad. Also I'm British so I have a cultural aversion to grids which always makes my traffic extra hosed up
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 00:45 |
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I'm planning to go hard on building a 15-minute city
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 01:08 |
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I haven't decided if my first city should be an attempt at no cars paradise or some kind of grinding American hellhole. The way demand works seems to push you very hard into making postwar US sprawl. I was excited about being able to force people into transit by denying them parking, but then I saw how many of the buildings come with parking that you can't get rid of that I dunno if that's doable. Also the sheer insanity that is the one base game passenger rail station.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 01:11 |
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I dunno, the mod and performance stuff has pretty well removed this from my "Buy Day 1" level of anticipation. How often does a game going to their own proprietary walled garden for mod distribution instead of Steam actually work out well for anyone? It generally just seems like a disaster in the waiting. Plus, my 3070 doesn't meet their recommended specs, and I'm not gonna build a new computer for a friggin city builder, so 'oh well', I suppose. I guess I'll circle back in a year or but probably the Great Wall Of Required-To-Have-A-Good-Time DLC will be high enough to deter me from buying it pretty fast if I'm not in on the ground floor and buying stuff as it comes out.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:04 |
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Tarnop posted:
Why not build Milton Keynes instead?
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:11 |
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Grand Fromage posted:I haven't decided if my first city should be an attempt at no cars paradise or some kind of grinding American hellhole. The way demand works seems to push you very hard into making postwar US sprawl. My first city is going to be inspired by the UAE, aka "American postwar sprawl but what if it was even more kitsch?" Then I'll add in a nice port modeled off Jebel Ali and top it off with some decadent skyscrapers in the downtown area and beachfront I need to keep my expectations realistic.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:21 |
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First DLC should introduce the ability to nuke other people's "cities". I have a weird fascination with building cities on very hostile terrain. So I'll wait for someone to release a mountain valley map.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:28 |
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Mukaikubo posted:I dunno, the mod and performance stuff has pretty well removed this from my "Buy Day 1" level of anticipation. How often does a game going to their own proprietary walled garden for mod distribution instead of Steam actually work out well for anyone? It generally just seems like a disaster in the waiting. Plus, my 3070 doesn't meet their recommended specs, and I'm not gonna build a new computer for a friggin city builder, so 'oh well', I suppose. I guess I'll circle back in a year or but probably the Great Wall Of Required-To-Have-A-Good-Time DLC will be high enough to deter me from buying it pretty fast if I'm not in on the ground floor and buying stuff as it comes out.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:39 |
Didn't someone say that the "recommended" specs are more like "recommended if you plan on building quite large cities and view them in 4k resolution"?
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:48 |
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From the official forums:quote:A NOTE ON PERFORMANCE AND OUR COMMITMENT TO PLAYERS https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/updates-on-modding-and-performance-for-cities-skylines-ii.1601865/
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:48 |
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Why don't they just come right out and say "this game is targeted at the next gen consoles and you'll need a computer at least on par with them to play it"? The BS Corporatese is nauseatingly patronizing. This is their idea of transparency? Transparency would be directly saying "hey, this game we're going to charge you $400 for by the time it's all said and done, you need a pretty beefy rig to play it any further than about 20K pop."
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 12:55 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:Why don't they just come right out and say "this game is targeted at the next gen consoles and you'll need a computer at least on par with them to play it"? The BS Corporatese is nauseatingly patronizing. So are you gonna not buy it?
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:00 |
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My PC is way below recommended specs and I don't own a console, so, no, I am not. Not right away anyhow. In 10 years, maybe. Which is fine. There is no problem with making a game that you need cutting edge hardware to play. It's just the corporate weasel language they're couching it in that's just, ugh. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Companies write like that because it works. People get angrier at blunt statements like you want to hear.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:11 |
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Has there been any mention of whether it will be available on GeForce Go? Might be a fine way to play it for a year or two in the interim.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:24 |
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Grand Fromage posted:I haven't decided if my first city should be an attempt at no cars paradise or some kind of grinding American hellhole. The way demand works seems to push you very hard into making postwar US sprawl. It is weird that there's no option for just a basic platform rather than a city center station, guess you could use trams for the connector services
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:30 |
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Jewmanji posted:Has there been any mention of whether it will be available on GeForce Go? Might be a fine way to play it for a year or two in the interim. in a lot of ways C:S2 is the ideal GeForce Now game: high performance requirements but gameplay is not latency-sensitive
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:41 |
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Jewmanji posted:Has there been any mention of whether it will be available on GeForce Go? Might be a fine way to play it for a year or two in the interim. yes https://twitter.com/NVIDIAGFN/status/1709969242521481693
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:45 |
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oh my god they're up to disgaea 7???
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 13:48 |
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Awesome, thanks! Solves my problem of having a 1070ti
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 14:12 |
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Dijkstracula posted:oh my god they're up to disgaea 7??? Disgaea 1 came out over 20 years ago
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 14:20 |
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Mukaikubo posted:How often does a game going to their own proprietary walled garden for mod distribution instead of Steam actually work out well for anyone? Of the games I play, the gold standard here is probably Factorio. Mods are browsed and installed from within the game itself. It works really well.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 14:42 |
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mrpwase posted:Why not build Milton Keynes instead? I probably will one day but I live in the north of England where everything is viking settlements with delusions of grandeur
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 15:14 |
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I'm looking forward to playing this but the performance stuff sounds dire. I'm sure I'll be fine-ish with a 3080ti but either way I'm glad I'll be able to play it on gamepass first so I don't have to pony up to buy it right now.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 15:16 |
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I've got a pretty good CPU but, since my monitor is 1080p, I haven't upgraded my GPU past a 2060. I'll be Gamepassing it and will report back here with my findings as far as performance goes
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 15:19 |
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mrpwase posted:Why not build Milton Keynes instead? Milton Keynes was a mistake
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 17:49 |
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I find it deeply hilarious that some goons will make their stand 43 American dollars, despite the game being something they've waited for. I don't really know what is being shown by this, or to who, by waiting to buy it but saying you buy it eventually. Like basic math tells me that if you spend the same money now or then, you get more value by having it earlier? Buy the drat game. It'll run fine. And it'll look great going forward when your computers get better. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 17, 2023 |
# ? Oct 17, 2023 17:57 |
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I will invest my 43 dollars and buy CS2 later with passive income
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 18:12 |
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Vahakyla posted:I find it deeply hilarious that some goons will make their stand 43 American dollars, despite the game being something they've waited for. I don't really know what is being shown by this, or to who, by waiting to buy it but saying you buy it eventually. Like basic math tells me that if you spend the same money now or then, you get more value by having it earlier? Not really. I don't expect I'll be able to play it much with the hardware I have, and a few years down the road when I finally do have adequate hardware I'll be able to get it much cheaper on sale. Come Summer Sale 2027 or whatever that 43 bucks will buy me the game plus $100 sticker price worth of DLCs. Plus preordering/day 1 buying any game based on hype alone is always ill advised, unless you're getting a seriously good extra value of some kind out of it. The downside to waiting a couple days to find out if the game is actually good or not is... what, not being one of the Cool Kids in the Day One club? e: I know I'm the weirdo here though, I hardly ever buy games new or at full price. There are more good games out there than I'll ever have time to play, so I've always been several years behind and happily buying everything at slashed prices. It's the advantage of not gaming socially at all, everything I play is perfectly new to me even though everyone else forgot about it 3 years before I started playing it Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 17, 2023 |
# ? Oct 17, 2023 18:18 |
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Honestly, given that they're being open that it'll be challenging on performance they should probably drop a demo at launch so they don't scare off people they don't need to. It sounds like you'll be able to play fine if you drop a few settings.explosivo posted:I'm sure I'll be fine-ish with a 3080ti Oh you'll be totally fine, a 3080 was the recommended spec. It's the fact that recommended was so high that caused the whole kerfuffle, a relatively small % of PC gamers actually have that much, especially with the card crunch and price escalation.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 19:17 |
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Vahakyla posted:I find it deeply hilarious that some goons will make their stand 43 American dollars, despite the game being something they've waited for. I don't really know what is being shown by this, or to who, by waiting to buy it but saying you buy it eventually. Like basic math tells me that if you spend the same money now or then, you get more value by having it earlier? I have no doubts that CS2 will be good and fine but I hope all goons exercise their "gamer rights" and not pre-order or buy it before independent reviews based on the final build comes out.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 19:30 |
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The patient gamer always wins
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 19:32 |
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I hope the game has DLSS and does not put too much performance critical crap to e-cores.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 19:44 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 11:34 |
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Just found out Cities 2 isn't delayed on PC. I had blanked it out of my memory to cope with the delay but now I'm loving hypppeddd.
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# ? Oct 17, 2023 19:59 |