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A.o.D. posted:It has led to some delightful Khemri TV memes, however. the saga of Nahoul the Bee has occupied an unreasonable amount of my brain space for decades
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A.o.D. posted:It has led to some delightful Khemri TV memes, however. https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1215073526736195585
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's not very applicable to this particular video but please be aware that MEMRI has a history of being very biased in their translation decisions to the point of being deliberately misleading at times: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-media-research-institute-memri/ I thought they were just the meme guys!
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Biden has talked Israel into reducing the number of crimes against humanity they're committing this week.quote:Israeli officials say the Biden administration pressed the Israeli government in the last 48 hours to resume the water supply, especially to the southern part of the Gaza Strip
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Oct 16, 2023 02:39
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A.o.D. posted:It has led to some delightful Khemri TV memes, however. Wtf does Settra have to do with this
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Stultus Maximus posted:Biden has talked Israel into reducing the number of crimes against humanity they're committing this week. This poo poo is so gross. At least the US is doing something. Sadly I think it's going to be far, far too little.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wtf does Settra have to do with this 
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wtf does Settra have to do with this Everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbDcRo2An1I
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's not very applicable to this particular video but please be aware that MEMRI has a history of being very biased in their translation decisions to the point of being deliberately misleading at times: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-media-research-institute-memri/ Well, poo poo  Thanks for the heads up
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The World Health Organization posted:Evacuation orders by Israel to hospitals in northern Gaza are a death sentence for the sick and injured https://x.com/WHO/status/1713277138437038573?s=20
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So about Bibi getting the boot...quote:Draft emergency regulations from Israel's Communications Minister would "allow him to direct police to arrest civilians, remove them from their homes, or seize their property if he believes they have spread information that could harm national morale or served as the basis for enemy propaganda."
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Oct 16, 2023 15:43
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Pretend I'm mad max and I'm pointing and saying "That's a police state."
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Anyone who think there's a chance of him leaving is kidding themselves
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Tiny Timbs posted:Anyone who think there's a chance of him leaving is kidding themselves Well....leaving voluntarily. Involuntarily? Could happen.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Anyone who think there's a chance of him leaving is kidding themselves Seriously, a major corruption case that wrapped up multiple of his subordinates didn't take him down, and he's openly hardened his position. A.o.D. posted:Pretend I'm mad max and I'm pointing and saying "That's a police state." Pretty much. Democracy in middle east, my rear end.
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bird food bathtub posted:Well....leaving voluntarily. Involuntarily? Could happen. maybe, if some even further right hardliners get annoyed that he won't open the canned sunshine
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Cugel the Clever posted:So about Bibi getting the boot... Was there something more than the corruption suits? I'm out of the loop on his (mostly wrapped-up?) legal problems / financial crimes.
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Hard to find a good quality version but I saw a map on the news I thought was very succinct
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Reports of a hospital in Gaza being hit, with possibly hundreds killed. Numbers are very preliminary since it just happened, and I wouldn't trust any numbers released by hamas anyway. Hamas is blaming it on IDF bombs, while IDF is investigating and possibly attributing it to a misfiring hamas rocket. I have personally witnessed a fair number of misfires landing in Gaza (and some even somehow going the wrong way), and in a supposed video of the moment of impact a rocket motor is clearly heard, and another video shows a clear failed launch. This also happened during one of the heavy barrages today. If it was an intentional bombing then honestly I don't see any decent response other than to immediately declare a ceasefire, allow aid to enter and launch a public inquiry into what the gently caress. I know that we're pretty lovely, but I really hope that we're not that far gone. Don't Ask fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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I think Occam's razor says it was absolutely the Israelis given they are bombing the entire city, have a decades long history of targeting medical personnel, and are also now being reported to have hit a UN school (which are designated shelters). Edit: Second hand information but apparently the IDF are simultaneously saying it was a Hamas rocket and also the IDF were targeting secret tunnels under the hospital. Meanwhile, people have been sheltering in hospital grounds and carparks because they thought they were less likely to be hit. So gently caress knows what the actual death toll from this is. https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1714337776873640216 You only see the explosion at night from a distance. But still, content warning. I don't think Hamas' rockets tend to have that much power in them. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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NYT reporting it now, at least 500 dead. Israel saying only they are "looking into it.":quote:At least 500 people were killed by an explosion at a hospital in Gaza City on Tuesday that Palestinian authorities said was caused by an Israeli airstrike. If even the centrist mushbrain media is running it sure sounds like they flattened a hospital full of people. I'm sure Biden will wag his finger disapprovingly in private when he gets there.
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quote:The Israel Defense Forces said in a statement that hospitals were not Israeli military targets. “The I.D.F. is investigating the source of the explosion and, like always, is prioritizing accuracy and reliability,” the Israeli military said in a statement. “We urge everyone to proceed with caution. Honestly have no idea what that means.
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It means nothing. They say the same sort of thing when they shoot journalists dead.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:It means nothing. They say the same sort of thing when they shoot journalists dead. I just mean if they were gonna deny it or blame Hamas they'd just do that. "Uhhhh uhhhh... let me call you back later" sure sounds like someone who hosed up big time without a plan.
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When I put two things on the scale, one of them being "Launch whoopsiedoodle bullseye's a hospital accidentally" and the other being "Israel is doing some war crimin' right after they said they'd do some war crimin' " the scales kinda lean in favor of "Oh right, bombing civilian infrastructure to cause unnecessary suffering and death, that thing Israel has already done before in the past."
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^^^ same as below. They've done war criming but if we don't have information yet then we don't. This has global coverage, I'm sure information will flow quickly.Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I think Occam's razor says it was absolutely the Israelis given they are bombing the entire city, have a decades long history of targeting medical personnel, and are also now being reported to have hit a UN school (which are designated shelters). This is a bad start. Let there be some actual information before we assume we know. I think there's an absolute possibility of (fill in the blanks when we have an answer instead of an aneurysm). notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Israeli embassy in Jordan apparently besieged by hundreds of protestors trying to breach the grounds.
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Well the video of the bombing takes place in a blacked out city at night and seems to be orders of magnitude more powerful than the usual Hamas ordnance, and the video doing the rounds to support the IDF story of it being a misfire shows lit up buildings and has been dated to two years ago. So no, on the balance of probabilities I'm pretty comfortable assuming this was an Israeli strike unless some pretty loving compelling evidence turns up beyond the IDF's usual "a naughty dog did it".
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Historically, if IDF has admitted the hospital was targeted, but then says, "we don't know why it blew up", they are admitting it was them. It won't matter- America shelled a known and marked hospital for over a half hour in AFG with no real repercussions. I doubt America, Jr will face anything.
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The first reports I saw said that the hospital courtyard was hit, where I guess a large number of people had been sheltering (probably because hospitals aren't supposed to be bombed). The hospital was mostly not running because everyone able inside the hospital went outside to help the huge number of injured. Haven't seen yet that the hospital itself was destroyed. Incidents like this will only get more common, even if Israel (and Hamas) are genuinely carefull. There's hundreds of thousands of people seeking shelter wherever they can as countless homes are destroyed. They'll congregate wherever they can find shelter, water, medical care etc. A bomb, even if we charitably believe it was accidentally dropped, will do enormous damage to crowds like this. Crowds which become more common the more infrastructure is destroyed.
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Protests in Ramallah, West Bank against Abbas. I don't even think Abbas is in the country; he met Blinken in Jordan. I bet he fears being ousted by just such a crowd. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hundreds-protest-in-ramallah-against-pa-president-abbas/
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quote:The Israeli military said in a statement on Tuesday night that a misfired Palestinian militant rocket, not an Israeli strike, was responsible for the deadly explosion at the hospital. According to the Israeli military, a rocket barrage from Gaza was in close proximity to the hospital when it was struck. Islamic Jihad, an Islamist group aligned with Hamas in Gaza, was responsible, the Israeli military said. I would like to see the evidence on this.guys.
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mrmcd posted:I would like to see the evidence on this.guys. Source- trust us.
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The Israel Twitter account posted a tweet that originally contained a video of what they claimed showed a rocket misfire within Gaza, but they've since edited the tweet to remove the video: https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1714371894521057737 I'm not sure how Twitter embeds work, but this post over in D&D still displays the video that Israel claims as their exculpatory evidence: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3754814&pagenumber=397#post535328659
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Saw a clip of a Palestinian father crying over his dead kid who looked about the same age as mine. Think I'm gonna tap out of unfiltered Twitter for a while. gently caress.
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B B posted:The Israel Twitter account posted a tweet that originally contained a video of what they claimed showed a rocket misfire within Gaza, but they've since edited the tweet to remove the video: Does Hamas even possess rockets/weapons capable of leveling buildings like a hospital?
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