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hobbesmaster posted:The problem is that reaction videos literally take money out of the pocket of the original streamer. It’s certainly not 1:1 viewer count but there absolutely are people not watching the original video because they saw it on xQc’s channel. Oh I completely agree. But I also think that there’s a big difference between “react channels” and channels where a subject-matter expert or career commentator breaks down or performs some kind of critique or analysis of the video in question, etc. I’m just saying that the pivot from everybody being mad at XQC to everybody forgetting about XQC and being mad at SSSniperwolf, a much much smaller creator, feels like there’s a bias or motivating stuff below the surface that has caused this to become a much more successful and sustained campaign than the one against XQC. And obviously now the doxxing means that the campaigners have had the fire of righteousness lit in their bellies, even tho big streamers doxx their critics like this all the time and get away with it.
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The "much smaller creator" in question has 34.1M followers on Youtube, far more than xQc on any platform.
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Volte posted:The "much smaller creator" in question has 34.1M followers on Youtube, far more than xQc on any platform. that’s because XQC *just* left twitch for kick and he gets uploaded to YouTube and primarily watches YouTube content, but he’s not “on” YouTube in a meaningful way In terms of reach/effect and certainly in terms of earnings he’s way bigger than SSSniperwolf trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Oct 18, 2023 |
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I'm waiting for reaction videos watching reaction videos until it's like someone watching the equivalent to a zoom meeting.
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Ok Comboomer posted:that’s because XQC *just* left twitch for kick edit: Ok Comboomer posted:In terms of reach/effect and certainly in terms of earnings he’s way bigger than SSSniperwolf Volte fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Oct 18, 2023 |
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Oct 18, 2023 17:43
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Volte posted:He has 551K followers on Kick and 11.9M on Twitch. I didn't mention him being on YouTube. No but you mentioned sssniperwolf’s YouTube follower count, and didn’t mention any presence on Twitch/etc (59k followers on twitch)
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Ok Comboomer posted:No but you mentioned sssniperwolf’s YouTube follower count, and didn’t mention any presence on Twitch/etc (59k followers on twitch)
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Is there anyone in the top 250 channels that isn't an irredeemable piece of poo poo or a corporation?
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Oct 18, 2023 17:56
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slidebite posted:I'm waiting for reaction videos watching reaction videos until it's like someone watching the equivalent to a zoom meeting. Might I suggest the channel Reaction Time. No idea if they're even relevant anymore but between poorly done jokes and dumb catch phrases the main guy would often just stare blankly at the videos or just comment on exactly what was happening.
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Randalor posted:Is there anyone in the top 250 channels that isn't an irredeemable piece of poo poo or a corporation? Mr Beast has been actively calling out transphobia of late, so at least there’s that
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slidebite posted:I'm waiting for reaction videos watching reaction videos until it's like someone watching the equivalent to a zoom meeting. This is literally the twitch react meta. Streamer reacts, other streamer reacts to their reaction, original streamer re-reacts, third party reacts, etc.
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Oct 18, 2023 18:17
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Randalor posted:Is there anyone in the top 250 channels that isn't an irredeemable piece of poo poo or a corporation? What gets you into the top 250 follower wise? It loving blew my mind that sssniperwolf had 30m followers given that the "content" is vacuous garbage. Like I know Linus is whatever at this point but 10m subs for actually trying to make original content seems like very hard work compared to free booting content.
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here, have some good news: https://youtu.be/kGlh-Tac0RI?si=8yUQNo6ZnYPgmbbr Kate Micucci has a YouTube channel now
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Theophany posted:What gets you into the top 250 follower wise? It loving blew my mind that sssniperwolf had 30m followers given that the "content" is vacuous garbage. yeah well a lot of teen/preteen boys can’t get on OnlyFans using their school-issued/parents’ computers so here we are
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Ok Comboomer posted:yeah well a lot of teen/preteen boys can’t get on OnlyFans using their school-issued/parents’ computers so here we are I thought that was what twitch hot tub streams were for? Or is that no longer the meta?
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Theophany posted:What gets you into the top 250 follower wise? It loving blew my mind that sssniperwolf had 30m followers given that the "content" is vacuous garbage. Like I know Linus is whatever at this point but 10m subs for actually trying to make original content seems like very hard work compared to free booting content. About 25 million.
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Theophany posted:I thought that was what twitch hot tub streams were for? Or is that no longer the meta? Twitch changed the rules on that just enough.
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Oct 18, 2023 18:35
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K8.0 posted:This is literally the twitch react meta. Streamer reacts, other streamer reacts to their reaction, original streamer re-reacts, third party reacts, etc.  We truly live in the stupidest timeline.
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Kazinsal posted:About 25 million. Lmao garbage TV gets 20 seasons for a tenth of that. hobbesmaster posted:Twitch changed the rules on that just enough. So I guess another porn adjacent theme sprung up immediately? Theophany fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Oct 18, 2023 |
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Oct 18, 2023 19:58
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Theophany posted:Lmao garbage TV gets 20 seasons for a tenth of that. ENTERING….GLIZZY….OVERDRIVE
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Theophany posted:So I guess another porn adjacent theme sprung up immediately? hot tub streams are still a thing, twitch just made a dedicated category for them so they'd stop clogging up the Just Chatting category likewise for ASMR which has its own category now
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Whatever happened to the good ol' days when the king was Pewdiepie and he got the crown by having unintelligible screaming seizures and dropping homophobic slurs at a rate of several per second?
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Fabulousity posted:Whatever happened to the good ol' days when the king was Pewdiepie and he got the crown by having unintelligible screaming seizures and dropping homophobic slurs at a rate of several per second? XQC does that now like literally, I’m not joking
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Fabulousity posted:Whatever happened to the good ol' days when the king was Pewdiepie and he got the crown by having unintelligible screaming seizures and dropping homophobic slurs at a rate of several per second? Yesterday I got a G Fuel Pewdiepie energy drink at the dollar store because that's where all that kind of poo poo goes to get purged; it tasted like a shot of Robitussin dropped into a glass of Red Bull but not as good as I'm making it sound
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Oct 18, 2023 20:16
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slidebite posted:I'm waiting for reaction videos watching reaction videos until it's like someone watching the equivalent to a zoom meeting. Here's a YouTube video of a stream of asmongold reacting to a YouTube video of a stream of moistcritikal reacting to a YouTube video. It's reaction videos all the way down. https://youtu.be/f-tipM7KETI?si=oIiJa_U_WzswsSXU
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I am not being snarky by this, but I'm always insanely curious as to how this wedged itself in how youtube operates, but why does anyone care about recommended videos or their algorithm? When did it just become accepted that you have the computer toss videos your way? Full disclosure, I use ublock to just nuke that entire side strip of recommended videos, I don't see the grid of videos when the video I just watched ends, and I also can't see Shorts since I have those blanked as well. I have the channels I follow, browse directly from my subscriptions page. I watch the video, it ends on black. I also have youtube red or premium or whatever the hell they call it now because I had Google Music and now it's youtube music or red or tunage or whatever the gently caress, so I am not ~stealing~ views. I also don't really care that Google knows me or tracks me, I'd rather they didn't but whatever that's long ago gone. I just don't want to see any ads. It's just strange to me that people are protective of their video recommendations when you don't need them at all, watch something else, do something else, play a game, whatever. It's just ad recommendations, but with youtube videos. It's one of those things that makes me feel like I'm the crazy one since everyone else is talking about something I don't understand.
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Beause it’s theoretically a useful and welcome feature?
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The front page of my Youtube is incredibly good and I've found a ton of great channels through that. You're extremely wrong if you think it's just promoted videos and ad placements.
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Yeah, my feed is usually pretty much entirely the stuff that I'm interested in. I spent enough time curating it and slamming the "don't you loving dare" button on chuds and poo poo that I just see videos I'd want to click on. IDK, maybe it's because I pay for YouTube Premium for the music app and so my recommendations feed actually works like it should, but that's bordering on  .
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I don't mind YouTube recommendations because I've found a decent amount of smaller creators that way, and it doesn't take much effort to just tell it to not recommend people who are poo poo  Plus I like the shorts because it keels giving me clips of people making delicious-looking food.
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My youtube is not offering me any of that stuff. Just videos similar to channels Im subscribed to and topics I'm watching. How are you guys using youtube? I have a bookmark pointing to my subscriptions and a bookmark pointing to my youtube history on my bookmarks bar:  I only click those. I rarely go to the home tab. I have around 130 subscriptions. It's incredibly rare for youtube to offer anything not related to the stuff I like to watch. When I'm not logged, in it's the worst poo poo I've ever seen.
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KakerMix posted:I am not being snarky by this, but I'm always insanely curious as to how this wedged itself in how youtube operates, but why does anyone care about recommended videos or their algorithm? When did it just become accepted that you have the computer toss videos your way? You are the .00001% of youtubes userbase. Most people go to the frontpage, and click poo poo. They've been aggressively deprioritizing the subscriptions page for years. You also need to remember tons of people use YouTube through apps that don't have any (all/most/some depending on device) of those options available, like TVs and Smart Phones.
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To get to YouTube, I go to my address bar and push 'y' and then enter
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The algorithm is totally how I found Smarter everyday and some of the other sciencey stuff like PBS spacetime and Fermilab and retro-computing which are totally my jam. That said, 95% looks like crap. No idea why poo poo things like ghost hunting or conspiracy garbage get recommended because I don't think I've ever watched one of those vids on youtube in my life.
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The algo can work. I like LTT and car videos and it showed me Donut Media, which is exactly that.
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KakerMix posted:I am not being snarky by this, but I'm always insanely curious as to how this wedged itself in how youtube operates, but why does anyone care about recommended videos or their algorithm? When did it just become accepted that you have the computer toss videos your way? It's basically the same reason people just flip through TV channels sometimes. None of your subscriptions are currently offering you a new thing that's compelling you at the moment, so you look through the algorithmic recommendations to see if anything catches your eye.
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Volte posted:The front page of my Youtube is incredibly good and I've found a ton of great channels through that. You're extremely wrong if you think it's just promoted videos and ad placements. Yeah, it's been great for finding new channels. It also recommended me a straight-up neo-nazi punk band once, and I really want to know what I watched that connected me to that.
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Ok Comboomer posted:it's linus' bespoke hosting/community website: subscribers can watch his videos, podcasts, there's exclusive poo poo, and I think there's also a forum. A few years ago the idea was that they were going to actively court other big creators/channels and build like a sort of competitor/alternative to patreon/youtube/twitch/discord/nebula, but I think those plans have been largely abandoned for making it Linus' site, and mostly Linus-exclusive/centric, and adding features to that. I think they just got totally and immediately blown out of the water by all of the aforementioned sites rapidly developing and developing their various cultures and having exponentially more money and resources. Like nebula/curiosity stream sort of works (and is apparently profitable, so kudos to them) because they have the backing of Vimeo. oh no thank you
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I block youtube recommends simply because I have zero willpower and will be in a youtube hole for the night if something didn't break it. Now that there are ads i doubt i will spend much time there at all. Goodbye sweet tech youtube, where will I learn about products I'll never buy now?!
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